• satanicllamaplaza@lemmy.ml
    216·
    11 months ago

    This has been said my entire life and I have reached the conclusion that any election year where a republican or a democrat wins is not the most import election. It will be the most important when we decided to move on and stop repeated the same process.

    • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
      237·
      11 months ago

      The climate is the most important issue we face, that is why it is critical that we reelect the president who has unilaterally renewed and expanded oil and gas leases to make the US the worlds largest Petroleum supplier once again.

      • dmnknf@lemmy.ml
        151·
        11 months ago

        I can’t understand how Americans can believe they are an actual democracy. There are only two parties with actual chances. They both have the exact same position in anything that matters economically, they both won’t stop to fuck the future of everybody in the planet because they are owned by the same megacorps. but they have minor disagreements about how hard it should be to buy guns at Wal-Mart, so let’s pretend your vote makes any difference at all…

    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
      41·
      11 months ago

      And before now. It’s almost like elections are always important.

      And that’s why my focus has been and will continue to be on improving our election process. I don’t like the two major parties, so we should eliminate the spoiler effect by using a better voting system. I don’t like that my state has extremely gerrymandered districts (100% goes to party A, despite party B getting 30-40% of the vote), so we should consider proportional representation for House seats. I think voting by mail is the best option, and I don’t like that many areas disallow/restrict that. And so on.

      Yeah, climate is important, but we should be focusing on voting reform since that’s the only way to pick something other than the two clowns that make it to my ballot every year.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          11 months ago

          Looks great! They seem a bit too reactive though, I’d like to see some emphasis on nonpartisan policy to improve things. I do like their stance on proportional representation, so maybe they’ll do more with it later.

          Thanks for the link, I’ll have to send some money their way.

      • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
        22·
        11 months ago

        Agreed. And the best way to do that in the voting booth is to NOT support the encumbant parties who are the only ones who benefit from the current fucked up voting system. It is the absolute least you can do in the voting booth.

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          11 months ago

          Yup. My state will elect the candidate from the local majority party regardless, usually with a 20+% spread. So voting for one of the two major parties accommodates literally nothing since the spread is higher than all other candidate pooled together.

          So I vote my conscience, which is one of the third parties.

  • PowerCrazy@lemmy.mlEnglish
    158·
    11 months ago

    That’s right everyone, it’s that time again, THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR LIFE! You of course only have 2 “real” choices, and if you vote for anyone beside who I think you should vote for you are a racist, a sexist, a fascist, you smell bad, you are a bigot, you are selfish, you are naive, and hundreds of other things. I’m a VERY serious political commentator who happens to be extremely privileged with the status quo, so make sure to vote within the parameters I’ve outlined above, our democracy depends on it.

    • the_q@lemmy.world
      68·
      11 months ago

      The choice between an atomic bomb or a pipe bomb is still a choice and one that will make sure the least amount of damage will be done, but you keep being big mad.

      • satanicllamaplaza@lemmy.ml
        102·
        11 months ago

        Interesting point. I think I will vote for feeding the homeless and universal healthcare instead of a pipe bomb because while there is pipe bombs and atomic bombs on the ballet… there are also other things. Why would I vote for a pipe bomb? lol that would be a dumb thing to do, I could hurt myself.

  • Stillhart@lemm.ee
    74·
    11 months ago

    Pretty sure I’ve heard this every election since Trump got elected. Though, admittedly, not from a noted gorilla scientist.

        • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
          94·
          11 months ago

          The partial imperfect one that a big chunk of Americans vote in between last week and November.

          • Drewfro66@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
            51·
            11 months ago

            The United States of America is a bourgeois dictatorship, not a democracy. The only important election of our lives will be the first one after the Workers take control.

            I plan on voting Claudia and Karina 2024 and I recommend that others do the same.

            • silence7@slrpnk.netOP
              31·
              11 months ago

              There are sometimes local races with only one candidate, but most races have more than one. Doesn’t mean that they’re all decent choices. But people can and do vote as they choose.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        11 months ago

        Exactly. This sounds eerily similar to Bush v Gore. Trump is more distasteful than Bush, but at least he didn’t get us into multiple “forever” wars. And Biden doesn’t seem to care much about green policy, at least not compared to Gore.

        I’m not voting for Trump, just wanted to agree that the argumentation sounds very similar.

  • pingveno@lemmy.mlEnglish
    42·
    11 months ago

    One candidate, I wish he was doing more, but he’s doing a lot with the bad hand he was dealt.

    The other candidate has called climate change a hoax and will not only do nothing, but will prevent others from taking action.

    The next few years do indeed mark a possible turning point in climate change. If the US shows good leadership on the world stage, that will be instrumental in mitigating the worst of climate change. Four years of Trump (or Haley, if Trump somehow loses the primary) is too many years.

  • library_napper@monyet.cc
    2·
    11 months ago

    Right, I’ll be voting for the candidate who said they establish UBI using funds from a carbon and meat tax.

    • timicin@lemmygrad.ml
      2·
      11 months ago

      it gives me so much pleasure to know that yours is a minority viewpoint on the fediverse; perhaps you should go back to reddit, or facebook, or whatever group think hole you crawled out from.