• winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    I don’t see any “have to” in here at all. To me, that just looks like a desire to have the state murder people. That’s not justice.

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      11 months ago

      I think executing someone who was convicted of murder is justified.

      Elizabeth Sennett’s family can now know some peace. Don’t take it from me, feel free to read their direct quotes below:

      _What was the stance of the victim’s family? “Some of these people out there say, ‘Well, he doesn’t need to suffer like that,’” Charles Sennett Jr., one of Ms. Sennett’s sons, told the local station WAAY31 this month. “Well, he didn’t ask Mama how to suffer. They just did it. They stabbed her multiple times.” Another son, Michael Sennett, told NBC News in December that he was frustrated that the state had taken so long to carry out an execution that the judge ordered decades ago.

      “It doesn’t matter to me how he goes out, so long as he goes,” he said, noting that Mr. Smith had been in prison “twice as long as I knew my mom.”_

      https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/25/us/execution-alabama-kenneth-smith.html

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        11 months ago

        Who’s moving goalposts now? A decision being “justified” doesn’t mean it’s “a chance we have to take.”

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          11 months ago

          I’ve been consistent on my position as well as my statements. You however have yet to form a coherent argument that wasn’t based in emotion.

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            11 months ago

            That’s fucking rich. Your entire point is that killing guilty people is somehow justice. How is that not based in emotion?

            Here’s a coherent argument that isn’t based in emotion: the death penalty does not improve society in any way when applied to a guilty person, and when it does lead to the death of an innocent person, it both reduces the likelihood of the real perpetrator ever seeing justice, and prevents the innocent party from ever being released.

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              11 months ago

              Executing the sentence of those found guilty by an impartial trial is the very definition of justice. Perhaps you’ve forgotten that.