• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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      BC will remain with Canada. Eventually, California, Oregon, and Washington will band together, and Canada and Mexico will recognize and support them, and then MAGA America will be surrounded by hostile territory on every land border.

      They will also have no access to any West Coast ports, at all. All MAGA America bound goods will have to take a trip through the Panama Canal, which will take longer, be very expensive, and be vulnerable to attacks by foreign aggressors and pirates. They will also have no military presence on the Pacific Coast at all, especially if Hawaii decides to join Cascadia, or more likely, become independent. Without supporting supply lines from the West Coast, MAGA America couldn’t effectively defend itself from a Hawaiian uprising for long, especially if Hawaii gets help from other nations.

      And if they think they’re going to take and control the Panama Canal, they won’t. It will be enormously difficult to take, and will be even more difficult to hold, as they fight battles on too many fronts (Venezuela, Mexico, Canada, Cascadia, Hawaii, other Central and South American countries, etc., and they aren’t going to forget people they hate in the Middle East), to be effective anywhere. It would be just like these moronic podcasters to think they have the infinite resources to fight every war in every place. If it comes down to it, the Canal can just be destroyed, and without Pacific ports, and no Panama Canal, MAGA America won’t be able to get any goods from Asia.

      That means they’ll have to manufacture EVERYTHING they need within their borders, which will be impossible, and take a lot of time to establish, but also makes them vulnerable to sabotage and attacks that would cripple vital supply chains. Even if they ramp up security around factories, those are just expensive resources being wasted.

      Add guerilla warfare across America, backed by foreign enemies of MAGA America, and you have an endless Civil War that MAGA America can never, ever win.

      How about instead of all of that, we just take control of Congress in 2026, start to impeach and convict a lot of really bad people, and take it all back on 2028, then crush MAGA mercilessly, and ruthlessly purge them from our government and our society? That would be easier, and more satisfying.

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        How about instead of all of that, we just take control of Congress in 2026

        That’s assuming that there’s going to be free and fair elections, which is far from a given under the Mango Mussolini’s fascist kakistocracy…

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          They’re going to try, but the difference this time as that we know they are trying, and we’re pushing back hard.

          During the Biden and Obama administrations, MAGA was trying all sorts of election manipulation and fraud, and neither Biden, Obama, nor the MAGA comedy act of Schmuck & Jeffries, did a single thing about it. They wouldn’t even admit it was going on, and still haven’t. Weak-ass punk LOSERS, they make me sick. . At least today we aren’t paying attention to the Democratic excuses for their disgusting Democratic collaboration with MAGA traitors and pedophiles. We KNOW they are trying to cheat, and we are screaming at Dem leadership to hold the line, and they finally are.

          The moment that last Fall’s shutdown hit the airports, the Dems folded. They didn’t care when people were going hungry, but as soon as their campaign donors operatives had a little trouble in the airports, they literally surrendered, and Democratic Voters lost their minds.

          Not this time. They realized how angry Dems were at squandering that advantage, and that if they surrendered again, they would be in as much danger in the Midterms as MAGA is. So when this current shutdown sent the airports into chaos, the Dems held strong.

          It’s much, much tougher to cheat in a Midterm, when you have over 400 district elections, as well as Senators, Governors, and others. They are going to have to rely on less reliable manipulation instead of outright fraud.

          That means hacking voter machines won’t work, so they have to deal with pre-, during, and post- election strategies to try to manipulate the numbers.

          Pre-election manipulation includes things like purging the voter roles, hoping voters won’t know, and show up on election day without being registered. They will try to intimidate people from voting by telling them ICE will be there to arrest them, etc. Also limiting the number of polling places, making people wait for hours, while also passing laws that it is illegal to provide them food or water while they wait. Messing with ID laws, mail-ins ballots, etc., are also Pre-election strategies to suppress the vote.

          During Elections, they do things like have ICE guarding the polls, enforce water/food laws, make sure the line stands in the Sun, have some ICE confrontations early in the day, so they can run on TV all day and scare people away, refuse to let people vote, give them false information on provisional votes, and their rights, etc.

          Post-election is going to be dangerous, because there is every indication that they will use phony allegations of election fraud to rationalize raids on the State Election HQs of certain targeted states, where they will confiscate all the ballots, and do their own vote count under high security (i.e. in secret). They do not have that right, and the states need to be prepared to block the FBI, or whoever tries to steal the votes, warrant or not, even if there is violence.

          These votes belong to the states, by Constitutional mandate, and the Feds have absolutely no authority to take them, and the States cannot allow it to happen under any circumstances. We can’t adopt the weak position of surrendering the votes, and then fighting in court. We have to keep our votes, and make THEM fight for them in court.

          So the Midterm won’t be as easy as only changing the vote in one race in seven swing states, like they did in 2024. MAGA knows the Midterms are always a problem for them. Remember the Midterm when Trump was screaming about “The Caravan” of migrants who were coming to America? Trump and MAGA were screaming about it, and the rest of us were saying Yeah, there’s a large group coming, but we know they’re coming, and we’re totally prepared to meet them at the border and process them like we always do.

          Then MAGA got shellacked in the Midterms, and we never hear a word about the Caravan again. They know the Midterms are hard to cheat, so they have to do it mostly with really loud, really ridiculous propaganda. The best strategies to beat that is to either ignore it, or laugh at it. The worst thing you can do is believe MAGA lies.

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      Stripes are going in different direction and unless this person is espousing the white supremacist ideas from the other org using the colors, we can assume it’s completely unrelated until proven otherwise

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          Often flags from a region will have similar color schemes, even if they are ideologically opposed to each other.

          If there’s overlap between the groups of people that use the flag, then that’s a problem

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              In the academic year of 1994-1995, I ended up doing graduate work in Eastern Europe studying nationalism and ethnic minorities. Though I totally love the people, cultures and landscape of Eastern Europe, I was deeply homesick for the forests of Cascadia, specifically the Willamette Valley forests I grew up around. One day in spring as I sat on a hill with my companion, I explained to her what the landscape of my home looked like. I said those vast vineyards if at my house would be vast green forests; the distant mountains of the Matras would be the snowcapped Cascades with white clouds hovering above; and above that might be the blue sky. The three colors of blue, white and green came to mind and that the pine tree in front of us would be a Douglas fir. The image stuck in my mind and spent a lot of time obsessively drawing the flag which really annoyed my soon to be wife. That period of time was crucial in regards to what was happening in Cascadia at that point.

              It doesn’t sound like that much of a stretch. If you got someone unfamiliar with these flags and had them pick some colors, I wouldn’t be surprised if they picked the same ones.

              The flag on the other wiki cites this page for the flag

              https://web.archive.org/web/20200613033606/https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/northwest-american-republic

              The “Republic” and its flag are based on the so-called “Northwest Imperative,” a longstanding call by some white supremacists, including Covington, for white people to move to the Pacific Northwest and establish their own country there. Covington promoted this idea on the Internet and in various novels.

              Covington, ostracized by most of the white supremacist movement, had few followers, but did have a significant Internet presence that could catch the attention of would-be white supremacists.

              Then from this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Covington

              He launched a website in 1996; using the pseudonym Winston Smith (taken from the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four), Covington became one of the first neo-Nazi presences on the Internet

              So if anything, it sounds like this guy based his flag off of the other one because it was popular at the time, and continues to be more well known than his one.

              So again:

              • two flags can have the same color scheme and be ideologically opposed to each other
              • It doesn’t make sense to crap on symbols because a separate group is using a similar symbol. Doing so only weakens the positive symbol and strengthens the bad one
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                It just looks, to me, that that guy was pissed he missed out on being part of the IRA.

                Swap the blue for red and its pretty much the Irish flag. Dont say its the Mexican flag, that would really have pissed him off.

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          Lol dude you’re trying too hard.

          There are real racists out there doing actual racist stuff. Go fuck with them as much as you’re messing around in here.

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      Famously, France and the NL have the same flag but turned 90°. Tricolors are not unlikely to share colors with unlike factions.

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        The joke I heard was that it was so the Dutch could save a few bucks by cutting French flags in half.