The strength of the indictment lies as much in what it charges as what it doesn’t charge.

This is the indictment that those who were horrified by the events of Jan. 6, 2021, have been waiting for. The catalog of misdeeds that Donald Trump is accused of is extensive, some reflected in other prosecutions over classified documents and hush-money payments or in civil lawsuits.

Archive link: https://archive.ph/SKWzm

  • TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
    1341·
    1 year ago

    I deleted my comment. I projected my emotion and criticized an article I hadn’t read. After reading it, it makes sense. Just tired of clickbait I guess.

  • Chetzemoka@kbin.social
    392·
    1 year ago

    And building a case this secure is why it took 2.5 years to get this indictment. Honestly, light speed in our legal system. Everyone who doubted along the way doesn’t understand how these things work.

    • NielsBohron@lemmy.world
      171·
      1 year ago

      Honestly, light speed in our legal system.

      For rich white people committing white collar crime.

      • Chetzemoka@kbin.social
        111·
        1 year ago

        I mean, yes. It’s harder to make charges stick to people who can afford expensive defense attorneys. Add in the inevitable political ramifications of these particular charges, and you can see why it was critical to take the time to get this right. And they managed it in only 2.5 years. Absolute light speed under the circumstances

        • NielsBohron@lemmy.world
          7·
          1 year ago

          Certainly, and I’d much rather that the prosecutors and investigators make an iron-clad case than rush it and bungle something that lets the defense cry foul.

          I was just commenting mostly so that we all remember that even though Trump seems to be getting a tiny bit of the comeuppance he deserves, we can’t lose track of the fact that there are still two different legal systems. And we need to stay mad about the fact that which justice system a suspect ends up in is based almost entirely on the suspect’s skin color and perceived wealth.

          Living perpetually in a state of barely contained rage might not be the healthiest choice, but it’s certainly one that keeps me motivated to do everything I can to change the existing system.

  • itsJoelle@lemmy.world
    25·
    1 year ago

    I only wonder how quickly this whole process is going to take. Can’t help but wonder Trumps legal team is going to drag this out as much as possible.

    Idk, tho I’m not a law wizard.

    • 2Xtreme21@lemmy.world
      231·
      1 year ago

      Yeah they definitely will try to drag it out. Trump knows that his only surefire way out of this mess is to win the election.

      • cassetti@kbin.social
        13·
        1 year ago

        From the article

        The charging decisions in the indictment reflect smart lawyering by the special counsel Jack Smith and his team. The beauty of this indictment is that it provides three legal frameworks that prosecutors can use to tell the same fulsome story.
        It will allow prosecutors to put on a compelling case that will hold Mr. Trump fully accountable for the multipronged effort to overturn the election. At the same time, it avoids legal and political pitfalls that could have delayed or derailed the prosecution.

        And further down

        A conspiracy requires two or more people who agree to participate. This indictment lists but does not yet charge or formally identify six Trump co-conspirators. Mr. Smith clearly has enough evidence to charge those unindicted co-conspirators but has chosen not to — for now. This, too, is a smart tactical decision.

        and in conclusion the author states

        This indictment presents detailed and overwhelming allegations. It reflects sound legal and tactical decisions that should allow the government to move quickly and put on a powerful case.

        It seems the feds already know exactly his his game, and wrote the indictment to head off as many avenues of delay that he may try to take.

        Remember, Trump has decades experience fighting in civil court. Federal court is a very different ballgame.

      • Drunemeton@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        1 year ago

        100% he will, even if he has to “fire” is lawyers the day before the trial begins, which will automatically allow him an extension.

        • PeleSpirit@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          1 year ago

          I think the judge has to let them be fired for that very reason? I am not a lawyer but I saw that happen in the Alex Jones trial.

      • PantsOnHead@lemmy.world
        8·
        1 year ago

        He is no doubt going to try spinning this into a talking point for his election campaign. The same old “they’re only punishing me because they’re crooked demonrats” and all that shit

        • tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com
          5·
          1 year ago

          For sure. I am really still saddened that this works so well. Republicans are so tribal, it just doesn’t matter what they have on him. Never has hit a point where “ok maybe a lot was political but this is overwhelming”.

          It’s gotta be that the anger and hatred trump represents is core to their very being. They can’t examine it. It would mean their whole life is flawed.

          • pepperprepper@lemmy.world
            6·
            1 year ago

            I feel this with my parents:/ Republicans used the abortion issue and it gets a lot of religious votes, and it works. Calling the democrats evil and saying they eat babies is something some of them really beleive in. So depressing.

            • tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com
              3·
              1 year ago

              Exactly. Same. Mine don’t even watch Fox News. But they talk to their friends who do and they’re under the impression that the media has been out to get Trump and have treated him unfairly since day one. As if the media wouldn’t crucify anyone who runs for president with decades of skeletons in their closet. My mother has heard trump say “grab them by the pussy” and thinks it’s offensive to have an issue with that quote. The same person who grounded me for weeks for less. I got spankings for WAYYY less than this. Lost a ton of respect for my parents over this. The worst part? Anytime you present evidence against Trump, they don’t just ignore its implications. They get very mad.

              • pepperprepper@lemmy.world
                2·
                1 year ago

                Dude, are we siblings :) same exact shit. I was punished so hard for the tiny things I did wrong as a child. Always told I have to be better, and that being obsessed with money and leing is wrong. and then trump comes and its all ok and even a little funny. They wonder why my generation is disillusioned by organized religion.

          • Dark_Blade@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            Trump’s basic platform was ‘they’re all crooked and out to get us, you absolutely CANNOT trust them. I am the only one you can trust’. The people who bought that will deny any evidence you put in front of ‘em.

      • andysteakfries@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 year ago

        But then he’s still got his Georgia mess and his NY State mess.

        Not sure if there’s anything cooking in Arizona or the Midwest states he tried to swindle votes from, but the chance is probably nonzero.

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      No, at the time the Mueller investigation released its report these crimes hadn’t been committed yet.

      We’re still waiting on indictments for the Mueller investigation crimes! (And the violations of the Emoluments Clause and probably a bunch of other stuff, but who’s counting?)

    • Four_lights77@lemm.eeEnglish
      51·
      1 year ago

      It needs to be smart so that it will be robust, redundant, and resilient. An inefficient prosecution strategy lets trump’s lawyers delay it possibly defeat the process in a variety of ways. Anyway - law isn’t usually black and white - that’s why the court apparatus exists.