Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote āuncommittedā in Michiganās primary on Tuesday
Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.
āItās important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote thatās not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,ā she said on Sunday during an interview on CNNās State of the Union. āA second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.ā
Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Bidenās 2024 campaign, also said she wasnāt sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.
Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote āuncommittedā in Michiganās 27 February primary.
Weāve also seen what Biden will do for the environment, womenās rights, minority rights, and trans rights. Nothing. This is pathetic.
Source please.
Iām sure itās not at the level that you and I wish for, and your grievances are validā¦
But calling it ānothingā and then insinuating a Trump presidency will be equally bad as another Biden term?
Come on, friend. Letās be more rigorous than that.
Youāre the one defending biden, show us something that will make him look more attractive other than fear mongering about a trump presidency.
Where on this thread did I defend Biden?
Our anger at the Democratic Party not doing enough to X, Y, and Z is valid.
As far as Iām concerned, feel free to beat up on the Democratic Party.
From my perspective, I was calling out the parent poster for a lack of rigor.
A national political institution not meeting our standards is not the same as a national political institution doing nothing.
Additionally, it also doesnāt work for us to equate a Trump presidency with a second Biden term as though one clearly wonāt be worse than the other for many of the values you and I seem to be mutually committed to.
Its more than not meeting our standards. It is actively working against the working and lower classes. It is not doing anything to atone for the crimes of climate change that have proven to be the fault of the US and the fossil fuel profiteers that are headquartered here. Biden and the democratic party will never attempt to seize funds from those profiteers to pay reparations to the global south. Biden and establishment democrats are not really interested in paying reparations here even. Biden thinks they did us a favor for cancelling debt if you have 12k or less. Most people have more than that from one semester of school. You also had to be paying for a set amount of time beforehand. Public service gets you a better deal but you still have to pay. Why are we the only country that has ādemocracyā but not social welfare anywhere near what some countries even than us have? Well because this country was always a european colonial project and it hasnāt stopped being such. MAGA? No, America is an illegitimate colonial project built on slavery that hasnāt been reckoned with and continues to use slavery to meet its economic goals. We are the only ādemocraticā country that uses forced labor as punishment during incarceration. I donāt see biden or establishment democrats mentioning anything about that?! THE US STILL PROFITS OFF OF SLAVERY. Say it again and keep saying it. You are not defending some shining beacon of liberty and freedom in the darkness that is the world. America is that darkness.
I acknowledge your upset and frankly, I agree with much of what you said. Iām defending nothing.
And yet itās still your anger at an institution not meeting your (and many othersā) standards.
Thatās still not the same as doing nothing, or, to put a finer point on the Trump vs Biden difference, that the Overton window in one case could even possibly trend in a direction you and I can agree is positive.
Iām done here, friend. Be well and take care of yourself.
Donāt ask for evidence that something doesnāt exist. Show it does exist, instead. What are Bidenās wins on those issues? Every one of those things are worse today than in 2020.
regardless, Biden is obviously pro-genocide. He called himself a zionist. Iām not voting for him.
No, it doesnāt work like that. You are claiming nothing has been done on any of those issues. Itās prima facie a bold and likely specious claim.
Speak honestly: have you looked for any counterexample?
Or are you content to make extreme claims, hook people in with emotion, and throw the effort onto others to check your work?
Come on.
Amazing how you have the patience to address frustrated people like that. I guess this surely is the way but encountering these baseless yet absolute accusations just makes me angry haha.