Gretchen Whitmer responds to calls by some Democrats to vote ā€˜uncommittedā€™ in Michiganā€™s primary on Tuesday

Gretchen Whitmer, the Michigan governor, pushed back on calls to not vote for Joe Biden over his handling of the Israel-Gaza conflict, saying on Sunday that could help Trump get re-elected.

ā€œItā€™s important not to lose sight of the fact that any vote thatā€™s not cast for Joe Biden supports a second Trump term,ā€ she said on Sunday during an interview on CNNā€™s State of the Union. ā€œA second Trump term would be devastating. Not just on fundamental rights, not just on our democracy here at home, but also when it comes to foreign policy. This was a man who promoted a Muslim ban.ā€

Whitmer, who is a co-chair of Bidenā€™s 2024 campaign, also said she wasnā€™t sure what to expect when it came to the protest vote.

Rashida Tlaib, a Democrat who is the only Palestinian-American serving in Congress, urged Democrats last week to vote ā€œuncommittedā€ in Michiganā€™s 27 February primary.

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    10 months ago

    The DNC used that system FOR DECADES. They didnā€™t implement it in 2015 to snub Sanders. And as shitty as it was. It was better than what they had before. This, this is why no one rightfully takes you seriously. Or shows any respect. Hyperbolic, disingenuous BS.

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      10 months ago

      They changed it fairly recently before 2016.

      At this point it is clear you are arguing out of bad faith and not ignorance.

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        10 months ago

        Nice projection. What was this change and how did it impact things. If you are so certain about this. Thereā€™s a reason you arenā€™t saying. And itā€™s not not because Iā€™m the one arguing in bad babe. Not at all. Itā€™s because if you actually point out the change it wouldnā€™t really support the claims being made. Better to have the innuendo unsupported.

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      10 months ago

      Their primary system was rigged for decades. It was used to support establishment candidates and make it harder for social democrats and leftys to win because the democratic party is owned by corporate America and has been for decades

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        10 months ago

        Thatā€™s not rigged. Rigged requires an intent to deceive. They were always open and up front about how the system worked. Sanders knew about it even if you still refuse to understand. And Sanders never claimed it was rigged.

        Was it not as democratic as it could have been. Absolutely. Was it worlds more democratic than when only the party chose before. Absolutely. Was it rigged. No.

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          10 months ago

          Rigged requires an intent to deceive

          Thatā€™s untrue. Rigged means intentionally structured to achieve a certain outcome. Regardless, the concept of a ā€œfree and democraticā€ has obvious connotations and intended implications regarding the level playing field associated with that process. The DNC did not have a level playing field which is why so many believe that it is rigged, and why so many will continue to believe that until monumental structural reforms are achieved, as well as admissions of wrongdoing for prior behavior. Comments like this wonā€™t change anyoneā€™s mind, and will just reinforce the idea that Democrats refuse to self-reform or listen to popular backlash