You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding about how discussions work. They change and evolve, a root meme is just that… a root. It is not the whole tree. There are no leaves on a root, yet there are many on the rest of a tree.
I’m talking about the basic nature what what these specific “Chinese hackers” are doing (which were never mentioned in the meme, so I’m not sure where you even got them, if you’re so invested in it), which is capitalism. They are motivated by capitalism, just like the people exploiting the labor of the people they employ.
US style capitalism has strong IP protections that make Chinese-style Hacking / corporate espionage literally illegal. Literally illegal in our system.
Your argument flies in the face of obvious facts here.
Except that it doesn’t make the unequal extraction of resources from the workers illegal, which is what this fella was arguing. That at the end of the day you’re arguing it’s unfair that one scum fuck organization is stealing from another scum fuck organization, so who really cares? It’s not about the corporate espionage but the actual root problem of extraction of resources for inadequate recompense due to the stranglehold that those with power/capital have on the amount of wages that are paid.
He’s arguing that the people that Google, apple, Microsoft and whatever other companies have built their fortunes on the backs of their workers who will never see even a 1/1000 of the capital that their work brought into the company which makes all the companies unjust in the first place.
Why do we, the proletariat, care if they steal from each other? We don’t own the ideas we generate when we work for them, they do, so I at least don’t see any reason to give a shit.
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding about how discussions work. They change and evolve, a root meme is just that… a root. It is not the whole tree. There are no leaves on a root, yet there are many on the rest of a tree.
I’m talking about the basic nature what what these specific “Chinese hackers” are doing (which were never mentioned in the meme, so I’m not sure where you even got them, if you’re so invested in it), which is capitalism. They are motivated by capitalism, just like the people exploiting the labor of the people they employ.
US style capitalism has strong IP protections that make Chinese-style Hacking / corporate espionage literally illegal. Literally illegal in our system.
Your argument flies in the face of obvious facts here.
Except that it doesn’t make the unequal extraction of resources from the workers illegal, which is what this fella was arguing. That at the end of the day you’re arguing it’s unfair that one scum fuck organization is stealing from another scum fuck organization, so who really cares? It’s not about the corporate espionage but the actual root problem of extraction of resources for inadequate recompense due to the stranglehold that those with power/capital have on the amount of wages that are paid.
He’s arguing that the people that Google, apple, Microsoft and whatever other companies have built their fortunes on the backs of their workers who will never see even a 1/1000 of the capital that their work brought into the company which makes all the companies unjust in the first place.
Why do we, the proletariat, care if they steal from each other? We don’t own the ideas we generate when we work for them, they do, so I at least don’t see any reason to give a shit.