Reading the differences, I’m not sure I’ve experienced either. I don’t even have a disconnect in thoughts and behavior when immersed in VR or when I attempt to meditate and reach that state intentionally. I’ve never been able to not think about something I don’t want to. I just want to feel like I’m not in my body and forget a bunch of awful stuff… 😔
I’ll tell you something that has worked for me, and it’s the only thing that works.
Music.
Learn enough to improvise and just dive into it. Today I fastforwarded through three straight hours banging drumsticks on plastic buckets at work. I can make whole days disappear just playing my guitar. I disappear completely and just get lost in the sound. It puts me in a trance and I forget I was ever a person.
It might not work for you, but wouldn’t it be rad if it did?
And don’t think it’s too late to learn. My ex sat down at a piano bench at 26 and said, “I want to learn this.” So she did. About a year later she said, “I’d like to learn to play your guitar.” She learned to play it and that’s what she did every evening for years.
Nothing takes me out of this world like playing music.
Everyone dissociates to a degree. I can guarantee you are doing it at least a little bit. It doesn’t always look or feel like being out of your body. It can be as simple as avoiding feeling feelings by doing things or by being too cognitive.
Reading the differences, I’m not sure I’ve experienced either. I don’t even have a disconnect in thoughts and behavior when immersed in VR or when I attempt to meditate and reach that state intentionally. I’ve never been able to not think about something I don’t want to. I just want to feel like I’m not in my body and forget a bunch of awful stuff… 😔
I’ll tell you something that has worked for me, and it’s the only thing that works.
Music.
Learn enough to improvise and just dive into it. Today I fastforwarded through three straight hours banging drumsticks on plastic buckets at work. I can make whole days disappear just playing my guitar. I disappear completely and just get lost in the sound. It puts me in a trance and I forget I was ever a person.
It might not work for you, but wouldn’t it be rad if it did?
And don’t think it’s too late to learn. My ex sat down at a piano bench at 26 and said, “I want to learn this.” So she did. About a year later she said, “I’d like to learn to play your guitar.” She learned to play it and that’s what she did every evening for years.
Nothing takes me out of this world like playing music.
They have mushrooms for that
Drugs might be a way to give you that, but to my limited knowledge it is not a good idea to use drugs while in a bad mindset.
Everyone dissociates to a degree. I can guarantee you are doing it at least a little bit. It doesn’t always look or feel like being out of your body. It can be as simple as avoiding feeling feelings by doing things or by being too cognitive.