If those are “our” allies, “we” deserve to die too.
You are not (hopefully. Is your last name Windsor? Hapsburg?) Your government. They do not exist for the people. You are being taken advantage of and identifying with them is not reasonable or healthy.
Another idealist who has mixed up “allies” with “friends”. We don’t need to approve of anything our allies do, or even think that they’re good guys. All that “allies” means is that they would have our back, just like we have theirs, against our common enemies.
This is because “enemies” in this case refers to nations like Iran, who hate our entire way of life and aren’t afraid to say they would like to see us all dead. It doesn’t matter to them if you think your government represents you (I certainly don’t) but if you believe we deserve to die, why not offer yourself up?
You might get lucky and get thrown off a building, or a fairly quick beheading with a dull-ish knife. Or less lucky, and get roasted alive in a cage over a fire, dragged behind a vehicle, or hacked into various pieces.
“We” are allies with Israel only because they are a shining light of sanity in a region that could otherwise be classified as “batshit insane”
First off, “Israelis” are like the most backstabby traitorous monsters ever. They have no loyalty, read a fucking history book.
Second: theres a fucking line. Stopping genocide is near the top of my priorities list. The point of having allies would be to do that more easily.
The Iranian regime (mostly not the people. This is very much an imposed government that rules by terror, which means its one small political faction, ans they hate me ~20% less than their american counterparts, who ate more numerous and want me equally dead. They don’t care, and pre revolution were very very culturally similar to Americans. Even now it’s recognizable) hates the American government because they supported the mad king who tortured the shit out of everyone, who they overthrew during the revolution, and continue to support the “Israelis” who are an existential threat. Yeah they’re islamofascists, but half the US government is christofascist, basically the same assholes. If I met a random English speaking Iranian, we’d probably be able to get along. If I didn’t, we’d probably shrug and ignore each other until somebody ran a translation app.
Yeah the Iranian goverent wants me dead. So does about half the american government. There are places I can’t go. I have friends in red states that are scared of being lynched (burned on a cross or hung as strange fruit, bit functionally the same). Weirdly though; the Iranian government, while homophobic as fuck, has state healthcare and isnt transphobic about binary transitions, so outside of the coasts, they’re kind of better. Not, like, enough that it matters to me, but marginally less bad.
“Israel” is even remotely sane
Okay youre tripping pretty hard, talk to me when you’re sober and have any clue what the fuck youre talking about.
And who the fuck is this “we”? The us governments interests are not aligned with my own, or anyone I know.
Obviously? Like, this is how war and geopolitics has worked since the invention of the pointy stick.
Whether you like them or not, Israel is an ally and Iran is a self-proclaimed enemy of the Western world.
An enemy jumps in on a war and bombs one of our allies, you expect no reaction? Duh
If those are “our” allies, “we” deserve to die too.
You are not (hopefully. Is your last name Windsor? Hapsburg?) Your government. They do not exist for the people. You are being taken advantage of and identifying with them is not reasonable or healthy.
Another idealist who has mixed up “allies” with “friends”. We don’t need to approve of anything our allies do, or even think that they’re good guys. All that “allies” means is that they would have our back, just like we have theirs, against our common enemies.
This is because “enemies” in this case refers to nations like Iran, who hate our entire way of life and aren’t afraid to say they would like to see us all dead. It doesn’t matter to them if you think your government represents you (I certainly don’t) but if you believe we deserve to die, why not offer yourself up?
You might get lucky and get thrown off a building, or a fairly quick beheading with a dull-ish knife. Or less lucky, and get roasted alive in a cage over a fire, dragged behind a vehicle, or hacked into various pieces.
“We” are allies with Israel only because they are a shining light of sanity in a region that could otherwise be classified as “batshit insane”
First off, “Israelis” are like the most backstabby traitorous monsters ever. They have no loyalty, read a fucking history book.
Second: theres a fucking line. Stopping genocide is near the top of my priorities list. The point of having allies would be to do that more easily.
The Iranian regime (mostly not the people. This is very much an imposed government that rules by terror, which means its one small political faction, ans they hate me ~20% less than their american counterparts, who ate more numerous and want me equally dead. They don’t care, and pre revolution were very very culturally similar to Americans. Even now it’s recognizable) hates the American government because they supported the mad king who tortured the shit out of everyone, who they overthrew during the revolution, and continue to support the “Israelis” who are an existential threat. Yeah they’re islamofascists, but half the US government is christofascist, basically the same assholes. If I met a random English speaking Iranian, we’d probably be able to get along. If I didn’t, we’d probably shrug and ignore each other until somebody ran a translation app.
Yeah the Iranian goverent wants me dead. So does about half the american government. There are places I can’t go. I have friends in red states that are scared of being lynched (burned on a cross or hung as strange fruit, bit functionally the same). Weirdly though; the Iranian government, while homophobic as fuck, has state healthcare and isnt transphobic about binary transitions, so outside of the coasts, they’re kind of better. Not, like, enough that it matters to me, but marginally less bad.
Okay youre tripping pretty hard, talk to me when you’re sober and have any clue what the fuck youre talking about.
And who the fuck is this “we”? The us governments interests are not aligned with my own, or anyone I know.
Edit: week old account, 1100 comments. This person is perpetually online. They don’t know anything about real life
you didn’t read what I fucking wrote did you? but you do make a pretty good case.
nothing makes Hezbollah look reasonable quite like hezbarrah does.
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