In Germany, police are held to a high standard because their education is comparatively rigorous. That was not crowd control or de-escalation, it was police brutality. What preceded this is not entirely relevant to the officer’s action.
No, they just get their sentence dismissed per default. Nothing will happen to the guy in the video, they’d rather prosecute the woman for interfering with his hand while he was at work.
I mentioned nothing about fascism. I agree context matters, especially involving police escalations. But I also believe that there is a line police should not cross, especially when they train for years.
You didnt, others who agree with you did. Context matters, theres no * on that. It matters. Videos that start with the incident, but not that build up, are selling you outrage. Even if its totally what it appears to be, police brutality, we still need to see the context of WHY the police acted like that. Was it something she said? Something she did or didnt do? Was it someone else, and they made a mistake zeroing in on her? Who the fuck knows, because the video only wants to get you all rage baited and clicking.
The idea of being pissed off at me for wanting more information, is fucking weird and everything that is wrong with the internet.
I’m not pissed off, though? I just know police in Germany train for much longer than in the US and in other countries. So, even if I had context that the woman punched an officer, for example, I still think it’s police brutality for the officer to punch her.
There are more efficient ways to de-escalate or to subdue than to punch someone, especially since there were multiple officers with armor equipped.
Again, you may not be. But others sure as fuck are.
But, lets play your game. Someone spits in your face. What do you do? Someone has a weapon. What do you do? Someone grabs your dick/your girlfriends pussy. What do you do? If the answer to any of these isnt “punch them in the fucking face”, I really dont know what to tell you.
I am not an Officer of the Law. I hold police to higher standards than I do regular people because of their training. I really don’t know what to tell you.
It’s literally a crime for any of those reasons to assault anyone in countries I’m at least a bit familiar with, for any cop or private citizen.
Someone who spits in you face should be persecuted.
Someone who punches someone should be prosecuted.
These are the basics of law.
Otherwise it would be justified to punch a cop back in the face bcs they punched me in the face (bcs I spit in their face). It doesn’t end. The legal system is there literally to prevent that endless cycle of violence (unless in prefect anarchy with diligent participants, but nobody is arguing that here since “a cop” existing voids that theoretical case).
In Germany, police are held to a high standard because their education is comparatively rigorous. That was not crowd control or de-escalation, it was police brutality. What preceded this is not entirely relevant to the officer’s action.
Are they really held to a higher standard though? Unless we see this cop face serious consequences, that’s just not true
No, they just get their sentence dismissed per default. Nothing will happen to the guy in the video, they’d rather prosecute the woman for interfering with his hand while he was at work.
Context will always matter, and no amount of “only a fascist would say that” is going to make that not true.
I mentioned nothing about fascism. I agree context matters, especially involving police escalations. But I also believe that there is a line police should not cross, especially when they train for years.
You didnt, others who agree with you did. Context matters, theres no * on that. It matters. Videos that start with the incident, but not that build up, are selling you outrage. Even if its totally what it appears to be, police brutality, we still need to see the context of WHY the police acted like that. Was it something she said? Something she did or didnt do? Was it someone else, and they made a mistake zeroing in on her? Who the fuck knows, because the video only wants to get you all rage baited and clicking.
The idea of being pissed off at me for wanting more information, is fucking weird and everything that is wrong with the internet.
I’m not pissed off, though? I just know police in Germany train for much longer than in the US and in other countries. So, even if I had context that the woman punched an officer, for example, I still think it’s police brutality for the officer to punch her.
There are more efficient ways to de-escalate or to subdue than to punch someone, especially since there were multiple officers with armor equipped.
Again, you may not be. But others sure as fuck are.
But, lets play your game. Someone spits in your face. What do you do? Someone has a weapon. What do you do? Someone grabs your dick/your girlfriends pussy. What do you do? If the answer to any of these isnt “punch them in the fucking face”, I really dont know what to tell you.
I am not an Officer of the Law. I hold police to higher standards than I do regular people because of their training. I really don’t know what to tell you.
Youve already told me.
It’s literally a crime for any of those reasons to assault anyone in countries I’m at least a bit familiar with, for any cop or private citizen.
Someone who spits in you face should be persecuted.
Someone who punches someone should be prosecuted.
These are the basics of law.
Otherwise it would be justified to punch a cop back in the face bcs they punched me in the face (bcs I spit in their face). It doesn’t end. The legal system is there literally to prevent that endless cycle of violence (unless in prefect anarchy with diligent participants, but nobody is arguing that here since “a cop” existing voids that theoretical case).
Dude, why are you punching a cop in the face??? Are you unhinged???
See how I removed the context there, and what happened? Context, my good chap. IT FUCKING MATTERS!
I feel like we either don’t understand each other.
That is my argument.
You can remove that context for the legality part.
I am the one saying that it shouldn’t matter why I punched a cop & that I should be prosecuted for that.
(Just like they if they punch me.)
You can just say you don’t agree with the legal systems.
We can all have our opinions.
And again, it’s not that context doesn’t matter overall, it’s just that assault is still a crime regardless.