Respectfully, I think there are plenty of legitimate criticisms we can make without resorting to making fun of her appearance.
Edit for clarity:
Imagine if you were a woman who disagreed wholeheartedly with Lauren Boebert, and found her a wretched human being, but happened to look a lot like her. Then you see others who think like you do attacking her appearance.
Why would we create an environment that alienates people on anything other than ideological or moral grounds? The only people our criticisms should repel are people with dangerous ideologies that we don’t want to be associated with.
This comes off as a really sexist opinion. No one needs to change their appearance just because you don’t approve of it. Bodily autonomy is a human right.
Sexist? What does her gender have anything to do with making fun of a persons stupid choices?
Check your own sexism if you think anything in my comments have anything to do with gender inequality.
Yes, bodily autonomy is a human right. It’s not like I’m advocating for laws against her eyebrows.
Although she’s free to do what she likes, she will still suffer the consequences of general pubic opinion when you purposefully make self look like a clown and being laughed at.
If it was something about her appearance she had no control over, then yeah. I agree.
You’re implying that because you don’t like her appearance and she’s capable of changing it to be more pleasing or acceptable to you, it’s okay to belittle her for it.
That’s right up there with “you should smile more” and “you’d be so pretty with a little bit of makeup”.
Again, you’re still arguing from the standpoint that I’m making fun of her natural eyebrows.
Which I’m not.
You’re attacking appearances. How one dresses or applies makeup doesn’t matter in the context of the conversation. These are are matters of personal taste. Why do we need to know your thoughts on this?
I’m making fun of her shallow decision making and poor choices.
Not really, though. You’re just talking about how someone’s personal taste doesn’t align with your personal taste. This is like arguing about favorite colors. It’s a weak position to argue as it’s entirely subjective. It actively undermines any other argument you might be trying to make.
Of all the things to mention, and you’re focused on eyebrows? You sound extremely biased because of this weak argument. It gives the impression that you share this same quality of being shallow. It serves as a potential indicator that you might be unable to pick out relevant detail in a conversation, which also makes you seem like a waste of time to communicate with.
If you’re arguing another point this is detracting from that point. If you’re not arguing another point, then this insipid opinion is irrelevant to the discussion.
I mean, whether they are natural or not shouldn’t matter. The “shallow decision making and poor choices” are just as accessible to a leftist woman. It feels kind of yucky to be setting standards for how you think it is acceptable for women to present themselves, regardless of whether they are on the same side of the political aisle.
“We can shame women for how they choose to present themselves as long as they disagree with us about Palestine” is a weird take when you examine it for what it is.
We both think that she’s an idiot. Why does she have to look stupid? If some right wingers were talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez this way we would find that repugnant.
Hitler’s mustache is now so closely associated with nazis and fascism that we would rightly mock anyone who unironically kept their facial hair that way. Lauren Boebert’s eyebrows don’t feel like they deserve the same treatment, since it is very normal for many women with leftist values to keep up their appearance in a similar way. The eyebrows are not the problem; her beliefs are.
Mocking someones appearance is like dropping a bomb. You might hit your target but this shit has a radius and so you might also hit innocent people.
People who might be already hurting and are insecure. And hurting those people because you are not clever enough to come up with something precise is weak.
I don’t know, there’s nothing morally wrong with her makeup and face. If she happened to be a leftist but otherwise looked the same, I doubt we’d be rushing to the comments to mock her style. This is alienating to women who are like minded to us but have a similar sense of fashion to Boebert.
Respectfully, I think there are plenty of legitimate criticisms we can make without resorting to making fun of her appearance.
Edit for clarity: Imagine if you were a woman who disagreed wholeheartedly with Lauren Boebert, and found her a wretched human being, but happened to look a lot like her. Then you see others who think like you do attacking her appearance.
Why would we create an environment that alienates people on anything other than ideological or moral grounds? The only people our criticisms should repel are people with dangerous ideologies that we don’t want to be associated with.
No. She’s an idiot and she looks stupid.
If it was something about her appearance she had no control over, then yeah. I agree.
But she made herself look stupid, and I’ll call her stupid.
This comes off as a really sexist opinion. No one needs to change their appearance just because you don’t approve of it. Bodily autonomy is a human right.
Sexist? What does her gender have anything to do with making fun of a persons stupid choices?
Check your own sexism if you think anything in my comments have anything to do with gender inequality.
Yes, bodily autonomy is a human right. It’s not like I’m advocating for laws against her eyebrows.
Although she’s free to do what she likes, she will still suffer the consequences of general pubic opinion when you purposefully make self look like a clown and being laughed at.
You’re implying that because you don’t like her appearance and she’s capable of changing it to be more pleasing or acceptable to you, it’s okay to belittle her for it.
That’s right up there with “you should smile more” and “you’d be so pretty with a little bit of makeup”.
Again, you’re still arguing from the standpoint that I’m making fun of her natural eyebrows.
Which I’m not.
I’m making fun of her shallow decision making and poor choices.
You’re attacking appearances. How one dresses or applies makeup doesn’t matter in the context of the conversation. These are are matters of personal taste. Why do we need to know your thoughts on this?
Not really, though. You’re just talking about how someone’s personal taste doesn’t align with your personal taste. This is like arguing about favorite colors. It’s a weak position to argue as it’s entirely subjective. It actively undermines any other argument you might be trying to make.
Of all the things to mention, and you’re focused on eyebrows? You sound extremely biased because of this weak argument. It gives the impression that you share this same quality of being shallow. It serves as a potential indicator that you might be unable to pick out relevant detail in a conversation, which also makes you seem like a waste of time to communicate with.
If you’re arguing another point this is detracting from that point. If you’re not arguing another point, then this insipid opinion is irrelevant to the discussion.
I mean, whether they are natural or not shouldn’t matter. The “shallow decision making and poor choices” are just as accessible to a leftist woman. It feels kind of yucky to be setting standards for how you think it is acceptable for women to present themselves, regardless of whether they are on the same side of the political aisle.
“We can shame women for how they choose to present themselves as long as they disagree with us about Palestine” is a weird take when you examine it for what it is.
We both think that she’s an idiot. Why does she have to look stupid? If some right wingers were talking about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez this way we would find that repugnant.
Normally, one should not mock someone’s appearance. But, I think fascists and nazis are excluded from this ruleset.
Hitler’s mustache is now so closely associated with nazis and fascism that we would rightly mock anyone who unironically kept their facial hair that way. Lauren Boebert’s eyebrows don’t feel like they deserve the same treatment, since it is very normal for many women with leftist values to keep up their appearance in a similar way. The eyebrows are not the problem; her beliefs are.
poor Charlie Chaplin.
Mocking someones appearance is like dropping a bomb. You might hit your target but this shit has a radius and so you might also hit innocent people.
People who might be already hurting and are insecure. And hurting those people because you are not clever enough to come up with something precise is weak.
No, we can make fun of it if it’s crafted. Those eyebrows aren’t natural, they’re penciled. Face paint is fair game.
I don’t know, there’s nothing morally wrong with her makeup and face. If she happened to be a leftist but otherwise looked the same, I doubt we’d be rushing to the comments to mock her style. This is alienating to women who are like minded to us but have a similar sense of fashion to Boebert.
Yeah but it’s fun!
It’s gross that you are getting downvoted. Lemmy users still have a lot to learn when it comes to debating effectively.