What’s the point in memes where it’s putting something that’s just uncontroversially true and not really that complex of an idea next to a twink wojack

Edit: just read the comments smh. My bad OP you’re entirely in the right for this, apparently the basic idea that the dominant ideology reproduces itself is too complicated for people to get, also someone calling you a tankie for this lol

just to clarify i want evidence of this specific admin function being misused, i and everyone else already knows that the lemmy.ml mods are trigger happy with their bans, but you’re claiming that they’re misusing the anti-CSAM feature to remove comments from the modlog that they actually removed for criticising china to cover their tracks which i havent seen anyone else accuse them of

can you link me a single example of someone saying that they had their post removed from the mod log

I didnt say that lemmy.ml mods havent been overbearing with their moderation i said “i havent seen anyone even claiming its been used against them or pointing to their post being permanently removed from the modlogs unjustly”.

if you want me to spell it out slowly i can:

• lemmy.ml mods have abused admin powers at some points
• it is possible that the lemmy.ml people could abuse this admin power
• as far as im aware there is no evidence that anyone has misused this specific admin power
• this specific admin power has been used to remove child porn and dox info
• since this admin power has been used for good reasons and hasnt been used for bad reasons it shouldnt be removed as an admin power

well i havent seen anyone even claiming its been used against them or pointing to their post being permanently removed from the modlogs unjustly, only people saying that maybe it could be used in this way, so no i dont think that the ML tankie front are using it that way. and since i know it has been used for its stated purpose to fully remove actual doxx information and child porn i dont see why it should be removed as a feature, at very least until there’s some evidence of it being used maliciously

all instance admins have the ability to do this on their own instance, the functionality was added to deal with doxx info being posted so it wouldnt be visible even in the modlog, and it was used a lot to deal with the CSAM spam attack too - basically whenever this happens the relevant message will still be in the modlog but it will be changed to “Permanently Removed”. Currently there’s no evidence or even accusation that this functionality has been used for anything except the stated purposes though so i wouldnt worry too much.

I think micro plastics in our anything will probably be an issue

Basically just the same as just defederating but you also sign a little thing promising you’ll never refederate with threads

the main kind of transphobia we see on lemmy kind of takes on a different skew than in most places bcs of the left wing nature of lemmy, so we don’t really see any overt conservative types anymore bcs they all got bullied off but what we do see is that a lot of the time now, transphobia (at least of the gender critical type) comes from users who are life long committed dyed in the wool older democrat supporters or whatever who dont really agree with trans stuff or whatever but just accept it because they think everyone deserves to live their life and they oppose Republicans attacking us. So they’ll make some faux pas about transness, be corrected by a trans user but then double down, get into an argument and then at some point just start being openly transphobic. So for instance a while ago i saw someone who kept saying he was really trans positive and woke and he didnt oppose trans rights at all, briefly make a shitty joke saying that on lemmy it was always the “leftist pronoun brigades” having shitty takes in the news threads, get (tbh kind of agressively) told what he said was transphobic, which he replied to by doubling down, and then a few replies on and he was saying that he accepted trans people but nonbinary people were all

but yeah, transphobia is a lot less noticeable on lemmy than reddit imo, but it is still there and some of the more right wing instances aren’t particularly good about banning their transphobic users if they just use dogwhistles instead of being outright anti trans

we do our best to get rid of the committed transphobes, but unfortunately there’s also far too many people in the world in general who think they’re great trans allies but refuse to notice the anti trans dogwhistle and talk down to trans people who point them out. Unfortunately, we can’t really deal with them unless we pivoted to become a siloed off walled garden instance, and honestly the will just isnt really there from either the majority of the users or the admins to do that.

If seeing these types bothers you a lot, i’d reccomend maybe checking out hexbear.net because they boot these types out at the drop of a hat, and basically just chat to each other in their own local comms - the only thing is that along with all the pro trans stuff they post they’re also very pro china and pro-veganism, occasionally anti-anarchist (despite anti anarchist sectarianism being banned and anti anarchist posts and comments getting removed and users occasionally banned for them there;s a sort of vibe that anarchism is only accepted as long as its not overtly critical of anti western countries in the wrong ways, also they have a whole thing of making fun of “reddit anarchists” which frequently bleeds over into just being plausibly deniable sectarian posting), quite anti-trot and very anti-liberal and arent really willing to budge on these positions so if that doesnt mesh with you you might not like it.

what i meant by that is blahaj is no longer being explicitly targeted for harassment and we don’t see as many gender critical types as we used to, not that they’re gone. The problem with moderation is that we can only ban someone for transphobia once we’ve seen them being transphobic which means other people will see it too, also if someone never interacts with blahaj we’re less likly to see them to ban them in the first place, so comms on instances other than blahaj are more likely to have transphobes on. There’s also some limitations in the mod tools because mods can’t forward users to the admins for instance wide bans after giving them comm bans so we have to use a matrix chat to message the admins asking them to ban them which is clunkier and occasionally some people slip through the cracks.

Out of curiousity what was the username of the person you had an argument with and what comm was it on? Because if they still haven’t been banned or just got a comm wide ban by mistake I can message the mod chat to get them permanently banned instance wide.

But also yeah, the “soft transphobia” thing was badly phrased on my part, you’re right, i’ll edit the comment.

As someone who’s a mod for a few LGBTQ specific comms on blahaj and is in the blahaj mod chat (keep in mind that I’m not an admin btw) I can confirm that there’s been some brigading of specifically this instance and it’s users (because it’s tied for position with hexbear as biggest trans focused instance on the lemmyverse, it’s widely federated so more visible to transphobes, and the users on hexbear are basically psychotic so anyone wanting to harass trans people tends to go for the squishier target of trans people here rather than go to hexbear and get dozens of replies telling them to post pictures of their dick, sending them pictures of a pig shitting itself and calling them a “hitlerite KKKracker” that deserve to be executed by firing squad and then being off and on harassed by the bears for the next two weeks) by transphobes in the past but normally it’s just one or two people doing it at once across a load of alts and they pretty quickly get banned. Also since the admins are in Australia, sometimes it takes a while for accounts to be removed and get site wide bans because admins are asleep when trolls from Europe and America are active so the transphobic comments get seen by more people before they get ban hammered.

At one point there was a pair of tiny instances that had open sign ups and literally no moderation that accounts were just being made on with the specific purpose of harassing trans users on here but they got defederated. By now, most of the overtly transphobic people have gotten bored though and stopped doing it.

There’s also the occasional problem with the sort of “i’m just asking questions” transphobic gender critical stuff the person you’re replying to was mentioning, but because that mainly comes from people using their actual long term accounts and not just trying to drive by harass users here, once they get banned they usually don’t tend to come back; since Lemmy’s growth has slowed now, a lot of the bad gender critical people have been banned by now and there’s not many new ones coming in.

TL;DR: there’s been problems with overt and covert transphobia in the past but it’s mostly been dealt with by now but we still get the occasional thing every now and again.

my vote for the Green party isn’t an emotional “I cant bring myself to vote for this piece of shit” thing, its entirely a strategic vote - it signals to the Labour party that there are people willing to vote for them if they were to move back to the left rather than constantly chasing the votes of the mytholigised moderate conservatives who are finally too disgusted with the rampant corruption and infighting of the current conservative to keep voting for them, it helps the green party gain more ground that labour wont get a >51% majority in the houses of parliament so they’ll have to coalition build with the green party and listen to some of their demands if they want to get stuff done (after all, they’re not going to be coalition building with the Workers Party of Britain since its basically just one guy who hates the modern labour party with a burning passion and gives a speech at the house of commons every now and again about how the county of Rochdale needs more NHS funding and also how Starmer and Sunak will be seeing the fires of hell for their crimes), and there’s not much risk of the conservative party winning now after the last decade of corruption stories and infighting (the funniest of which was the exposé of david cameron’s pig fucking ritual about a decade ago imo), the splintering of the far right of the party to join with the remnants of the Brexit Party (which was formed of the remnants of UKIP and the overtly fascist British National Party) and form into the Reform Party and the split off of some of the left of the party into the Liberal Democrats Party and, in a few cases, into the starmerite Labour Party.

Before the genocide in gaza i was still considering holding my nose and falling in line just in case, but seeing the rabid zionism of the Labour Party in action as loads of MPs have either been forced out for alleged antisemitism for criticising Israel or left in protest over the culture that Starmer’s forced onto the party from the top down gave me a realisation that it was necessary to actually vote for people who will oppose them in parliament rather than just hope that someday they’ll change and get better

I’m saying that they check a bunch of the boxes of a shill account.

one of our accounts is 8 months old and talks about a variety of other general interests and things that arent just to do with politics as well as modding several of the queer comms in lemmy.blahaj.zone; the other is a three month old account that exclusively posts about politics and martialling people to vote for the democrats and stuff, there’s far more grounds to call you a “shill” for the democrats than to call me a “shill” for the british Green Party or Jeremy Corbyn or whatever.

and one of the points i made was literally that the people now who are saying to vote for Keir Starmer against Rishi Sunak now are literally the same people who voted for Boris Johnson to stop Jeremy Corbyn coming into power because he was “too left wing” just five years ago but now i have to fall in line behind them when they utterly tanked the labour party and refused to fall in line just a few years ago unless we let them be in charge and push their transphobic neoliberal zionist ideology instead, one of the old mainstays of this group, David Mencer, the former director of Labour Friends of Israel, is now literally working for the Israeli government as an official spokesperson

• At no point was in weighing on talking about the US, I was talking about the UK. I even said “as a brit i’m not going to comment on whatevers going on with the american election”
• I’m not “claiming” my queerness or some shit, i live it and i face the consequences of living it
• yes, most of my posts are in the garfieldist subreddit which i made because i like garfield and the femcel_posting sub for transfems because I’m a transfem and i find the memes funny, sorry that i have a personality and other interests that arent just politics
• my account is literally almost three times older than yours
• the thing you posted was far more emotive than mine and literally accuses anyone who doesnt want to vote for an accomplice to genocide of saying “vulnerable people should die for my ideology” (frankly i dont care which people vote for but to say anyone protesting bidens complicity in the bombing of gaza just want to kill gay people or whatever while the democratic party tells them they just have to accept that “palestinians should die for our ideology” so that biden can win the election is disgusting), but because i very briefly expressed in just one sentence a fraction of the anger i feel at the (entirely cis) starmerite talking head harpies in this country who supported the tory majority into power so that we’ve had five years of uncontested rule by them and who arent affected in the slightest by the institutionialised transphobia of the conservative and labour parties yet expect me to come happily to vote for the man who entirely bulldosed the most progressive party britain has ever had and is directly calling for me and people like me to be segregated out of our crumbling healthcare service suddenly im the one being emotional or whatever?

im not even refusing to vote, im just voting for a different party which isnt actively trying to screw me over, why would i ever vote for Sir Keir “trans rights can’t override women’s rights” Starmer?

Speaking personally as a brit i’m not going to comment on whatevers going on with the american election but in the case of britain at least im absolutely not going to be voting for Keir Starmer since most of the left neoliberals in this country telling me i have to swallow my pride and vote for the most right wing and second worst (to his “credit”, unlike Tony Blair, he doesnt have the blood of a million iraqis on his hands, only 30,000 palestinians) party leader labour’s had in recent memory were the exact same people 5 years ago saying they couldnt in good faith vote for the most far left, trans positive labour leader in decades because he criticised Israel which led to the largest conservative majority in years.

Under Sir Kid Starver, Labour stopped members from voting for a ceasefire right at the start of the Palestinian genocide, members have repeatedly been expelled over bogus antisemitism charges, starmerite labour’s trying to push to have the NHS privatised, the party has pivoted so far to the right that you have promiment members saying “Margaret Thatcher was a visionary leader for the U.K; no doubt about it", they’ve proposed policies to segregate trans people out of single sex NHS hospital wards and those are just the things from the last few months or so that i remember off the top of my head.

I’m going to vote for the Greens instead.

my account is at least 5% femboy worship

Average chaser lol. People will unironically just declare “hey, I have a fetish for objectifying crossdressing twinks!” and then act like it’s a completely normal, not creepy thing to say out of nowhere because it’s funny when it’s queer people being randomly fetishized

that sounds so cool ngl, finally an actually good use for ai

im not saying governments dont astroturf or anything, i meant it was a QAnon-esque conspiracy to assume that there were paid shills and bots around every corner and the vast majority of anti-american sentiment comes from a Russian cabal or something, especially on a comparitively tiny online space like lemmy. Like i’ve fairly frequently seen the accusation that lemmy is filled with paid actors / bots working for various countries from people just because they’ve suddenly been exposed to views that they’ve never really encountered before.

criticising Israel’s genocide of palestinians and consistent settlement of palestinian land going back 75 years and the American government unconditionally supporting them to do this for the last few decades regardless of political party isnt racist actually. I’m assuming you don’t think that just because I criticise the actions of the Russian government that makes me a white supremacist who hates all russian people.

edit: im getting downvoted for saying genocide is bad and countries that commit genocide are bad lmao