Basically, the only modern studio consistently putting out stop motion animation movies, is Laika Studios. And yet, Laika has only had one financially successful movie, Coraline from 2009, while all their other movies have under performed.
However, Laika is currently led and owned by Travis Knight, son of Phil Knight, the owner of Nike. This has enabled Knight to continually bank roll Laika whenever they under perform, essentially making the entire stop motion animation film industry a nepo baby’s pet project.
That being said, this is actually a positive story, and reminiscent of how artists previously would be financially supported by wealthy benefactors.
Me when people forget about Wallace and Gromit.
Would you like a spot of wensleydale old chum?
If you have the one with cranberries, yes!
If you have one without cranberries, also yes!
Cranberries, and other bits of crap, don’t belong in cheese. Have them with your cheers by all means, but not in it. I like tomatoes and olives with a bit of cheese but I won’t be buying a cheese that has formed some perverted union with them.
Speaking of propping things up - Wensleydale were propped up by Wallace & Gromit.
Yeah because the truth is it’s actually pretty rubbish cheese. I’m allowed to say that, you can’t, but I can.
Yarg best cheese or a blue west country Brie.
Yes
Sorry, the cat ate it.
Wes Anderson put out a wildly successful stop motion picture in 2009.
Consistently, sure, but that doesn’t actually mean it’s dead.
Isle of Dogs is one of my favorite movies
Oh shit he did it again in 2018, haven’t seen that but it’s going on my list!
Or here me out… we tax him and his dad. Then use the money to pay stop animation artists so they arent beholden as some rich kids pet project. could even start a few studios instead of one. Early 00’s there were a few independant stop motion artists. Only reason they still arent around is due to art grant funding.
This sounds nice but I expect it will not work as good in reality plus there may be more artists than money if we limit it to only those two.
Tax everyone properly and provide basic income sounds like a way to go anyway
Thats what what i meant. Artists should have better access to funding and foundational wage streams such as a basic income that Ireland is currently doing with musicians.
Got some sources to share? The quick search I did doesn’t support your argument.
Also, Aardman is a rocking studio with quite a history. (Yes, I know they went digital for a bit after the fire)
The fire is irrelevant. That was storage of historical assets. They have never stopped using models, but also entered the CG business as diversification.
Have you never seen any Aardman Animations films?
they were mentioned in the video
It’s a case of Americans thinking they are the entire world.
No, it’s a case of a sophomoric view on a subject.
its hyperbole for clicks. the guy recognizes Aardman in the video and basically just says they are not doing well financially which seems true. https://www.business-live.co.uk/enterprise/aardman-animations-faces-financial-woes-32724904
Aren’t they closing up shop because the company that makes their animation clay is closing down? https://www.dtmovies.com/the-company-that-made-modeling-clay-for-aardman-studios-has-closed/
Are you not counting claymation? Because i’m sure that Wallace and grommit would like a word.
Isn’t Aardman (shaun the sheep, wallace & gromit) still consistently put out stopmotion? Or are they just cheating the visual style with 3d animation?
They’ve got an ongoing show aimed at preschoolers called The Very Small Creatures. My 4 year old watches it occasionally. It’s simple but cute.
Yeah, Aardman are very much still stop motion (with a few tiny cheats, the stadium audience in Early Man and the sea in Pirates on an Adventure with Scientists).
Pirates on an Adventure with Scientists
damn, that’s a better title than the US got
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates!_In_an_Adventure_with_Scientists!
The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists! (released outside the UK as The Pirates! Band of Misfits) is a 2012 stop-motion animated swashbuckler comedy film directed by Peter Lord and written by Gideon Defoe, based on his 2004 novel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirates!_in_an_Adventure_with_Communists
The Pirates! in an Adventure with Communists is the third book in The Pirates! series by Gideon Defoe to feature his hapless pirate crew. It was published in 2006 by Orion Books (ISBN 0-297-84867-4).[1]
This book follows the adventures of the Pirate Captain and his crew through Paris and London—accompanied by Karl Marx and his sidekick Friedrich Engels—as they attempt to clear the communists’ good name after it is sullied by Richard Wagner and his malevolent benefactor, Friedrich Nietzsche. The fictionalized version of Nietzsche wears a large mechanical exoskeleton, and plots to take over Europe so he can get a girlfriend.
woaw
Aardman has had a CG division since the mid-90s. Flushed Away was their first all-CG feature, followed by Arthur Christmas. Pirates! in an Adventure With Scientists was intended to be fully CG but, at the request of Sony, it was changed to stop-motion with extensive CG augmentation.
i don’t know the full story but iirc that was how the band Supertramp stayed afloat until they were successful, patronage from some rich guy
There are certainly worse ways to spend your obscene wealth.
Knox Claymation and Wallace & Grommet beg to differ!
As long as you don’t piss off your patron.
I liked Kubo and the Two Strings a lot.
However, Mathew McConaughey? He was a very strange choice for voice talent in that film. It did not fit the aesthetic at all, he stuck out like a sore thumb. That southern drawl thing he’s got in a movie that has primarily Asian characters? Well all right all right all right.
Thank you! I hated his voice for that character. Love the movie, but I feel that was such a mistake.
Did he fall far away from that shit family tree, or does he have his dad’s politics?
Bad news, Nike isn’t doing so well financially.
They ditched retail stores, cut R&D and focused on the niche street fashion market and nostalgia.
It turns out none of those moves are good long term.
this is actually a positive story, and reminiscent of how artists previously would be financially supported by wealthy benefactors
Idk that sounds profoundly negative to me lmao
What do you mean „financially successful“? The movie Kubo from 2016 had more revenue than budget. Is that not successful?
It is a damn good movie btw.
https://bombreport.com/yearly-breakdowns/2016-2/kubo-and-the-two-strings/
Breakdown here.
No, it was a loss.
Ah, so basically Marketing is not included in the budget. And theaters take a big cut from the revenue.
Yep. Things we normally don’t look at when budget to revenue conversations happen.
Isn’t that standard Hollywood accounting?
E.g. Return of the Jedi never made a profit either, on paper
I love Hollywood accounting. We collectively acknowledge it’s a very real thing because we are all not dumb but at the same time whenever we don’t agree with something we can also simply use it as a crutch.
Now that said you may be right, but you may also be wrong. Who knows? 🤷♂️
