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Reported for being awesome.
Oh, looks like they don’t like people owning the stuff Sony makes. I know a way to solve that issue.
Revoke Sony’s corporate charter? Ban Sony products from being imported? Criminally charge the CEO and board?
Well all that would be great, but we all know none of that will happen. We can (and should) just stop buying Sony items however as they are not doing so great on that front already. This is the issue when brands do stupid shit, no one seems to want to just stop buying.
Ngl we basically can’t buy anything anymore
Hey, silver lining there. We are all broke and Sony is priced out of the market.
We can (and should) just stop buying Sony items however as they are not doing so great on that front already.
Waaay ahead of ya there, buddy. I’ve been deliberately boycotting Sony since at least the rootkit in 2005, and I think the newest Sony product I actually bought was a Walkman cassette player.
Trouble is, Sony somehow still went right on existing as a huge multinational corporation for the last 20 years anyway. It’s almost as if boycotts aren’t enough and we actually need consumer protection law. 🤔
My line was when I learned their phones had non standard screen sizes for the reason of “fuck you”.
That’s strange. Any sources on that? I’d be interested to read up.
Whatever the reasoning, if it wasn’t for the other things and if displays were the only criteria, I would actually prefer Sony - a tall and narrow display would work nicely IMO (if you aren’t watching 16:9 videos all the time - which I am not), and Sony is also one of the very few manufacturers to offer displays without a punch hole and with very mellow corner rounding. I’m with larger hands and even so I think that my current phone - Nothing 3a Pro - 6.77", 20:9-ish aspect ratio - is just too large to be practical and I’d prefer something around 6" at most (and, as mentioned, something as tall, but narrower could work well).
I can’t find it now (I looked but search engines seem to have gone to shit) but many years ago I remember an article about Sony’s addiction to non standard formats and it included a quote from a Sony person when the Ericsson line first came out. Basically Sony always wants to try and make things a bit different to give them more control, think Betamax vs VHS. They thought they where just better then everyone and (they do this a lot) assumed that their format would “win”. The closest to the article I can find was in 2023 https://www.bwuphoto.com/from-betamax-to-cfexpress-why-sonys-visionary-formats-often-miss-the-mark/ but it is like 20 years later and kinda short without much value.
When they went to the silly phone screen size there was some meat on that idea however, they enjoyed a position as a major player. Sony expected phone apps and such would be made in their odd format and when that did not happen, just kept the format for longer then they should of. I remember having a Sony phone and almost anything you did outside of the web or home screen would just have black bars on ether side. I was always bothered by it but did not know why until I read that article (that now seems to be lost). The reason for these odd formats always seems to be nothing but control for Sony and issues for the consumer.
I can think of a few times Sony did this crap, Betamax, Phones, Playstation disks, CD-i, wierd audio compression tech, mini disk, digital cassettes and their own memory card format.
Any others people can think of? I am now on a bit of a orphaned format kick.
There is some truth to that, yes. But given that they’re still around means that they’re doing okay despite the questionable choices. Speaking from memory, they absolutely dominated the personal audio market (cassette players, then CD, then mp3/digital) - at least before the iPod came around. MiniDisc didn’t stick around, but they still had players for every big format of the day. And let’s not forget that they co-developed CD-DA.
They’ve made some strategic acquisitions (i.e. Minolta) and they’re in the big three of pro photography. That’s speaking just from my bubble as a hobbyist/semi-pro photographer - but now that I look at the Wikipedia page listing their acquisitions, there are literally hundreds of them.
What you’re saying about phones specifically might be true, I can’t speak from experience. When they had the P line of Symbian phones I still only had a feature phone with a monochrome screen - and by that time (which I remember reading in magazines) Nokia was the big smartphone player with a lot of Symbian phones sticking to the 320x240 format (so if apps were catering to that, there’s the problem). I don’t remember specifics about Sony Ericsson’s flavour of Symbian, but it seemed weird indeed. As of the feature phones from that time, I remember that many of them supported Java and things were mostly the same across brands.
Generally what you’re describing is almost as if Sony has wanted to be Apple - with the difference being that Apple has been significantly more successful in setting trends. Not a fan, but can’t not admit how big they are.
I’ma have to re-remember a facet of my life where “I’ll make do” was a thing. I mean, it still very much so is… but fuck, I could be “making do” even more if I tried just a little. I don’t wanna, because comfortability and all that, but I’ve done more with less in my past. I’m tired, but I guess it is what it is for the time being. Really wish I didn’t have to because of greedy evil, but fuck 'em… good luck in your bunker, I’ll smile at the sun instead
After going through the linked threads. Discussing graphene OS or any other ROM on r/privacy will get you banned. WTF‽
Because the person who makes it gets touchy on some things and started drama with someone or doxxed them or whatever type deal. It’s not like you can’t talk about it you just can’t use the word because he was going through and being weird about conversations about it. It’s nothing against him or them it’s just one of those developers being a unique type of person - which makes sense in the hyper privacy space.
He’s certainly “unique”.
I feel like he only gets away with it because people find the Dev of a privacy OS being incredibly paranoid somewhat reassuring…
He gets away with it because he makes a high quality OS that people want to use. I don’t see it as much worse than e.g. using Linux when Torvalds is kind of an asshole.
“kind of an asshole” is a huge understatement. He’s said some truly unforgivable things
What unforgivable things has he said?
Here’s a collection of some fun rants he’s had, I personally don’t think they’re unforgivable but people’s tolerance for crash outs varies.
There are many other rants not collected here
There are other reasons to not use Linux, but Linux (+glibc +systemd +libinput…) is basically “the Unix” nowadays…
Pretty sure that is it. A lotta people in response to seeing him decry certain technologies tend to say, “that uncompromising nature on privacy is why GrapheneOS holds up so well.” Which I gotta be real when I say that it really does make me feel more comfortable with GrapheneOS’ development. I can’t keep up with all news on it, I’m not wanting to completely audit all the source code, but having a development team led by someone like that does bring a sense of ease toward my phone.
So you’d ban the user for being a weirdo, not the discussion
Well ig its time to stop buying anything made by Sony.
That time was after the first rootkit.
SecuROM? (i think)
Wait what
Oh you sweet summer child. There are many, many more over the years.
Sony is satans droppings
sad, they’re one of the few brands left that still have the audio port
Minijack? P sure Xiaomi has it in most of their models as well, but tbh dont know the state of that Company, if theyve got sketchy connections, good chance they do probably
The others are I think: Motorola (mobility) which is owned by Lenovo
fuuuuuk, I used to like SONY phones
So you need to do a face ID to play games in PlayStation in some countries now??? WTF
Coming to a country near you!
Sad stuff.
I can’t decide who’s the shittiest between Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft. Guess I’ll just stick to PC games and emulators.
csrrying 2 phones is the way to go imho. One for these stupid apps and the other for your personal data. So its like the work / personal phone setup but instead we have private / non -private phone.
Dunno why I never considered that. A VPN over wifi on one, for banking and whatever… and then my phone. Hell, I used to carry an MP3 player, flip phone, and a camera if the time called for it. Making me feel like I lost my way lol, appreciate the succinct tip
Edit: smacking my head cause I literally have to carry two phones at work, as is. Why tf have I never considered this as an option for myself, even when I knew it was optional? Damn man, gonna grab me a phone for personal use and put this one to (for) work. Thanks again my friend
I don’t like being fucked in the butt so I carry two dildos: one for fucking me in the butt and one without batteries.
Lately I’ve been thinking that this, unfortunately, is the way.
This is likely the route I’ll take in the near future.
Let’s end this bullshit once and for all, and go FOSS.
OK, ty , exit Sony
Wait, but you can’t run GrapheneOS on any Sony devices? Huh??
For an in-depth technical breakdown and why GrapheneOS cannot bypass Google Play Integrity check even with it’s Play Services Sandbox mode, check here: https://thecybersecguru.com/news/yoti-grapheneos-sony-playstation-age-verification/
I can’t say why, but that article has a very AI-generated text feeling.
Authorities: “You’re reporting wut?”
So, you know they discovered a material named graphene by pulling tape over graphite? Well some very evil people took that name to disguise a virus which takes over the phones of our customers and doesn’t let the use our operating system.
no no no, you’re reporting the user you need to make them sound guilty!
I am not going to ever buy Sony/Yoti devices now.
How is Sony connected to this? I only see references to the Yeti and Graphite OSs. (Misspelled because some commenters say they can’t say the name of an Os for some reason?)
TLDR; Playstation uses Yoti fot age verification
https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/1txn8di/did_i_just_got_threatened_by_yoti_age/
So, Sony uses Yoti — and it’s using a callback method so users can complete the Yoti verification flow by scanning QR code on their phone, similar to how OAuth2 allows? But if your phone has Graphene, the flow won’t work and instead triggers notification to local authority that someone tried multiple times to “bypass” it or something? Basically forwarding their own sever errors, due to incompatible clients, to the authorities?
Is that the right understanding?
Grapheme is illegal? Didn’t know
