If you actually want to support artists, don’t. YouTube Music’s royalty payout is far from stable and transparent, not to mention low to others which is already hard to beat really. Tidal comes closest (from what I found to having functionality and paying artists a more fair rate. Qobuz is there too, Deezer pioneers detecting AI garbage that people think makes them artists now. Spotify got most features ofc but they’re unethical as shit
Newpipe is free. You can donate to support if you’d like. No account required, so no tracking. Subs and history are stored locally. And with an internet condom (VPN) no IP exposure.
PipePipe = NewPipe + SponsorBlock.
How are they not getting blocked?
I’ve thought of mass scraping youtube for music, but it’s not worth ths risk of being banned by Google for life.
Newpipe (and all the other ad blockers) are playing cat and mouse with them. They make some changes which screw up blockers, blockers patch and return to service pretty quickly. I couple months ago they went so far as to force javascript proof of work, I was able to setup yt-dlp with the javascript engine in like 5 minutes and keep going.
They target different things, sometimes the try to block high quality streams, sometimes it’s not logged in streams, sometimes it’s streams from certain ips. They keep moving the cheese, deleting this rss feed or that stream type. At some point, they’ll implement actual encryption like widevine and make it actually difficult to get at the streams, at which point, we’ll just screen record, commercial skip and the best of the best will end up in torrents.
Their music quality is general marginal. Research soulseek.
Can’t use soulseek fairly without opening a port; I’m exclusively on mobile internet with a VPN without port forwarding… I might pay for home wifi for one month out of the year to fill my drive…
afaik you can’t screen record DRM content, it’s encrypted all the way to the TV or monitor. The OS never sees a decrypted stream. This is why if you try to screenshot Netflix the window just appears as a black frame.
Yeah, but you can but a $10 HDMI splitter from china with a HDCP key on it and hook a video capture to the other end.
I’m sure in the future they’ll have a firmware update system for rotating their keys if they’ve been leaked. And if you try to keep your TV offline to prevent the key rotation, they’ll still rotate the encryption key for the stream (maybe wait a year for most people to receive the firmware update), and your offline TV won’t be able to decode the stream anymore
They’ve been leaked for 15 years now.
Yes but I’m saying the tech could get more advanced and locked down, like all DRM tech has been progressing
Youtube what? Ohhh, that annoying popup I always decline. Apparently the price only matters if you buy it.
The more they charge, the fewer will pay.
I only ever get it when they send me an offer for 3 months for like $10 or something. Otherwise, fuck off Google, I’ll watch the shitty ads.
I prefer ublock origin
Switch to AdNauseam, a fork of uBO that garbles advertisers’ click data by invisibly clicking every ad before blocking (including blocking the resulting load so it doesn’t take any further data toll). Don’t just avoid; retaliate!
Fuck yeah. I have adnauseam on all my machines. Fuck the advertisers
Who in their right mind actually pays for YouTube?
I do. But I do it mainly to support the creators I follow. I’m not going to sign up for a bunch of patreon or channel subscriptions, but at least they can get their share of the subscription money.
Majority of people that are not nerds
Or watch it from the TV app
Also also, creators get paid more per click from premium users.
This. Also, I pay $5 for a family plan in my country.
You don’t have to be a nerd to run an APK file.Even my Baby Boomer mother can do it.
- I have kids and having them subjected to ads is a burden on them AND on me. I don’t get begged for the latest toys, or have to watch the latest ad for whatever cream will solve my latest rash…
- I don’t mind supporting channels that I watch. I also pay for PBS as I want to support that type of programming.
- I spend enough time supporting all the IT needs and maintaining my existing household’s IT infrastructure for players for all of the content that I download for my spouse and kids that isn’t available on YT or PBS.
Adnauseam/ublock/smarttube are your friends
It was at one point a perfectly good deal. Google Play Music was an awesome app and it came with ad-free YouTube for free. The family plan lets you share with 5 family members and was a great deal. Everybody is paying for some kind of music streaming service of some kind or another.
Everybody is paying for some kind of music streaming service of some kind or another.
Count me out. I’m building a music library of my own with the help of my local library, thrift stores, and the internet. And, shit, I just got a record player, too.
Oh I have my own selfhosted music library as well. But that doesn’t really solve the problem of music discoverability. Back in the day we had radio and MTV. These days streaming services are still a must on some level unless you’re content to just listen to the music you already have forever.
I use listen brainz for music discovery. Every week it generates a jams playlist(similar to things i am known to like) and an exploration playlist(a bit more out there in terms of music taste). I then download those via the API and convert them to a CSV which gets put into SLSK download and all the music shows up in my music player automatically and I delete the songs if I dont like em. I was able to import my spotify listening history into it so I have a few 100k listens and its got a good idea of what I like.
Either my kids ask for something new, or i hit billboard charts once in a while and true up my collection.
I like to use the time filter and can listen in 5 languages; “oldies” in various genres, times, and places, isn’t that hard to research–plenty of free internet radio out there.
Sorry to the new bands out there.
Edit: Also I find the mindset of finding the exact best music is kind of unhealthy. Building a tolerance for meh actually helps me discover things that don’t immediately and instantly appeal to me, and I think that leads to more musical variety in the long run than the skip-happy attitude streaming encourages.
I do via India Apple Account. Only pay 4 bucks for a family account including Youtube Music.
I do it for the YouTube music app. I live on Brazil and here costs something like 10us for the family tier so it’s not a big deal for me.
At that price, i’d do it.
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And it’ll increase further in the near future… Only for background play and Advert removal, 16/month is absurd considering they don’t have any content licensing headache and as such unlike Netflix, Disney + etc. Also, in case of YT Music, royalties paid out to artists are pretty opaque and pretty turbulent. Better to buy albums directly to support them. Brave FTW otherwise for YouTube
amazon wanted a subscription for more video skips. mute still free
I will never pay for youtube.
The only time I ever subscribed was when I could pay in Argentina. Came out to like $3.50 per month. Once they patched that loophole, they stopped getting my money.
Yeah, they’re worth maybe $5 a month or family. It’s just a bunch of B-F rate videos and they pay anyone that’s not in the B tier so little than you need to support them on patreon anyway.
This is still in the phase where its a really good deal. The reason i’ll never buy it is because I know it will not always be that way.
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Any tips for iOS for my wife to not get ads? She uses YouTube occasionally to play old kids shows and the ads are really not good for a kid to see.
LibreWolf browser (Firefox fork) also blocks YT ads pretty well. I use it at work to listen to music when focusing on programming.
Firefox focus browser
If she uses Safari, there are some good plugins. Not all are free. StopTheMadness Pro is not cheap but is a solution for many annoyances, not just YT. UnTrap for YouTube allows you to hide many elements like shorts. And SponsorBlock automatically skips sponsored segments. If she uses the YouTube app, delete it and set up a shortcut on the home screen to open the web version instead.
DuckDuckGo’s web browser blocks YouTube ads for me on iOS
YouTube Premium is like 2 usd a month via India, or 4 bucks for a family account.
Just create an Indian Apple Account (find an Indian address via Google Maps, phone number can be from any country so can just use your actual phone number) buy Rupees for the AppStore via https://www.amazon.in/apay/detail/apple-store-codes
Log out of “Media and Purchases” in the iOS settings under your account. Login “Media and Purchases” with the Indian account, redeem your Apple Rupees in the App Store, go to YouTube app and subscribe. In the subscriptions section of the iOS settings you can upgrade or downgrade the subscription if necessary.
With Signulous you can side load uYouEnhanced. This blocks ads, includes SponsorBlock, and a number of other nice add-ons. Signulous costs $20 a year though, and you have to install a sketchy certificate to side load, and there’s always a chance Apple breaks Signulous (happened a few times before but there’s always been fixes). You can manually side load uYouEnhanced without Signulous, but it requires some research & weekly upkeep.
Still cost me the same amount it always has.
We get it for $6.5 lol cuz we from poor region
Certain Verizon plans come with a discount on YouTube premium individual plans
