Yeah then women entered the workforce and employers were like, “yayyy! Now we have doubled the labor pool. We can pay people half as much by not increasing real wages for 40 years.”
This is exactly why I liked Elizabeth Warren, she seemed to be the only politician talking about the major issue with tracking “family income” as opposed to individual incomes…
I’ve been single for the last decade, at this point I know it is permanent. I will never have a second income. I do not enjoy living in someone else’s garage as I near 40 years old… Whatever OPs image has to say, I still feel like a complete failure as societal expectations of an “adult” are pretty much everything I don’t have.
Is this not a good-faith suggestion? If you’re going to disagree at least explain your downvote. I had roommates post-thirty and it improved my living situation drastically.
I expect they probably have the same ideology I have, that this statement is very simple minded and throws very big well “you could just marry someone rich” vibes
Like yes the comment is genuine but it isn’t reflecting on the fact that what the person is commenting on is the fact that societal expectations is that households required 2 income sources, which is polar opposite of what the society was built on where you used to be able to build a house and have a comfortable living with one income Source in the house, and now you can have two income sources in the house and still struggle to make ends meet. (hence the ideology of a minimum household wage instead of a min wage per individual)
Take my grandfather for example his house is currently equated at 300,000, he paid 14,000 when he bought it, this was with a stay-at-home wife and a household of four kids. My grandfather was a teacher, so on a teacher’s salary he was able to afford that house and support his kids and his wife all with him being the only one who worked in the house. I believe that’s the point that the commenter was trying to get at and it’s likely why other people down voted that response. “Just get a roommate” doesn’t address the actual issue at hand, it’s a temporary solution to a hard set problem.
300k on a 14k house? That’s chicken shit lol God I feel bad saying that but I feel worse saying my Nana got 1.5 mil on her 15k house. Somebody can do that math but I just ate dinner, I don’t have any room to eat shit too.
the working class should have better living conditions, especially in modern times where worker productivity is multiple times higher than post-WW2 technology allowed even after accounting for the higher tech level required for modern society
why not simply lower your living conditions?
Ironic how the one arguing in bad faith is the one complaining about it.
I mean, there’s room to talk about addressing systemic change and immediate quality-of-life suggestions in mutual exclusion, right? It’s not like taking steps to improve your life now is capitulation, and as I said having roommates was a step up in living conditions and made me better prepared mentally and financially to exist. I don’t see the irony at all – apologies if I’m misunderstanding – but we have to accept some nuance here.
Yeah then women entered the workforce and employers were like, “yayyy! Now we have doubled the labor pool. We can pay people half as much by not increasing real wages for 40 years.”
This is exactly why I liked Elizabeth Warren, she seemed to be the only politician talking about the major issue with tracking “family income” as opposed to individual incomes…
I’ve been single for the last decade, at this point I know it is permanent. I will never have a second income. I do not enjoy living in someone else’s garage as I near 40 years old… Whatever OPs image has to say, I still feel like a complete failure as societal expectations of an “adult” are pretty much everything I don’t have.
It is why I supported Warren, too. The concept is pro family, pro worker and pro business. It is terrible it is out of reach for so many families.
You could get a roommate.Or not i guess
Is this not a good-faith suggestion? If you’re going to disagree at least explain your downvote. I had roommates post-thirty and it improved my living situation drastically.
I expect they probably have the same ideology I have, that this statement is very simple minded and throws very big well “you could just marry someone rich” vibes
Like yes the comment is genuine but it isn’t reflecting on the fact that what the person is commenting on is the fact that societal expectations is that households required 2 income sources, which is polar opposite of what the society was built on where you used to be able to build a house and have a comfortable living with one income Source in the house, and now you can have two income sources in the house and still struggle to make ends meet. (hence the ideology of a minimum household wage instead of a min wage per individual)
Take my grandfather for example his house is currently equated at 300,000, he paid 14,000 when he bought it, this was with a stay-at-home wife and a household of four kids. My grandfather was a teacher, so on a teacher’s salary he was able to afford that house and support his kids and his wife all with him being the only one who worked in the house. I believe that’s the point that the commenter was trying to get at and it’s likely why other people down voted that response. “Just get a roommate” doesn’t address the actual issue at hand, it’s a temporary solution to a hard set problem.
But that is just how I see it,
I appreciate your response, thanks!
300k on a 14k house? That’s chicken shit lol God I feel bad saying that but I feel worse saying my Nana got 1.5 mil on her 15k house. Somebody can do that math but I just ate dinner, I don’t have any room to eat shit too.
Ironic how the one arguing in bad faith is the one complaining about it.
I mean, there’s room to talk about addressing systemic change and immediate quality-of-life suggestions in mutual exclusion, right? It’s not like taking steps to improve your life now is capitulation, and as I said having roommates was a step up in living conditions and made me better prepared mentally and financially to exist. I don’t see the irony at all – apologies if I’m misunderstanding – but we have to accept some nuance here.
50 years now. The production/wage split was roughly 1973.
Women fought for their freedom, and the corporations just said fuck it, imprison them all :/