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    I wonder how “normal” JD would think bodily autonomy was if he suddenly lost his?

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    Been saying forever, abortion is a car that dog don’t want to catch. What a disaster for the GOP.

    Look, the man had to deflect such a question, right? But if Vance, and by extent the Republican leadership, had the courage of their convictions, the answer is a no-brainer.

    “No. I think they are far more concerned with preventing the murder of innocent children, which is not a right, no matter how you slice it.”

    So, uh, is that message not resonating with women voters? Backing up the truck at this late date?

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    Conservatives are no longer conserving the rate of change to human and social values traditional to the United States.

    Under Trump they have become fully reactionary against anything outside of their wealth and privilege bubble.

    So what Harris has done has pointed out that the GOP are not “normal” because their values are really really really far outside the norm.

    Harris flipped it. Because it is true. And she is a better politician than Trump. Poor Vance, not having an ideological raft to believe in, can only say reactionary things.

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      Don’t buy their propaganda. They didn’t become this under Trump. They have always been the protectors of wealth and privelige. You can trace that history right back to the birth of Conservativism in post-revolution France. This is just the latest incarnation.

      I highly, highly recommend Corey Robin’s book The Reactionary Mind. He breaks down the whole history of Conservativism in a very accessible manner, and shows how every incarnation of the movement has ultimately been about one thing and one thing only; preventing the enfranchisement of the disenfranchised.

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        Yeah… let’s talk about Trickle Down economics if you want to see pre Trump examples of the same agenda.

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          This seems like a good spot to recommend Roberts Evans Behind the Bastards: How Conservatism Won. in which “Robert sits down with David Bell to discuss how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).” It’s a bit long but is very informative.

          tl;dr the rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set about undoing everything it touched, they want a return to the gilded age with themselves as the robber barons and gentry and everyone else as a subservient underclass

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      I think it’s finally happening. The strength of GOP was a uniform set of supporters whereas dems were more like a coalition.

      Turns out it’s easier to unite people against a common enemy than based on a shared belief and goal.

      Well, like the dog that finally caught the car, they finally are implementing actual policy they stand for, and that might be what fractures their base.

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    Almost immediately after Vance got the nod, I hit on a description for the way he appeared to me. At the time, it was necessarily based on very little info, so mostly I posted it because I liked the imagery - I admittedly wasn’t sure how accurate it really was.

    Imagine that life is a roleplaying game, and in every interaction, one chooses from a set of possible responses.

    And imagine that each response is labeled, so there’s the kind response or the neutral response or the angry response or whatever.

    It’s as if, in every situation, J.D. Vance chooses the asshole response.

    It’s actually sort of surprising to me how accurate that has proven to be. .

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        God he’s just Nazeem.

        “Do you get to the Yale campus very often? Oh, what am I saying? Of course you don’t.”

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      Or it can be like mass effect and you choose the option that just says “no thanks” but you’re character is a massive cunt for no reason at all and is like “no fucking thanks you asshole. I’m gonna kill you and wear your face as a mask.” And you’re just left wondering where the hell that came from lol

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        One of my problems with Mass Effect, tbh. The breaking point though was when in Mass Effect 2 you’re forced to work for fascists

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          I think it’s weirder that Shepard is just welcomed back into the alliance military in ME3 as if you didn’t just spend a large chunk of time out gallivanting with a terrorist organization

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      Also like Fable, he makes a lot of tall promises he has no intention of keeping.

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    Pray tell…what are these “normal” things you think suburban women worry about? I suppose it is abnormal on a global scale for them (us) to have to worry about it because it’s a non-issue in actually civilized countries.

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      You know, the usual stuff. Cross-dressing men at libraries, “military age” migrant caravans headed towards our southern border, and how high the taxes are for the top bracket. Totally normal concerns that directly affect average Americans in this day and age.

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        • Worried about that one time and illegal immigrant killed someone 4 states away but ignoring the murder rates in their own town

        • Not wanting her tax dollars to go to some mythical welfare queen but is perfectly fine with it being funneled to incentives and bailouts for big businesses

        • Thinking non-english speaking illegal immigrants are coming for her job as an RN/admin assistant/realtor but not at all concerned the people who do her yard don’t speak English

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    I just don’t get it. These are questions designed to get him to just answer with sections of his stump speech. How is he this bad at it? All he has to do is say the thing someone else wrote and he has said hundreds of times.

    The incompetence would be easier to believe it was intentional.

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          Steve Bannon, the guy that convicted of some kind of fraud for taking money for a border wall and running away with it. All that’s left of trumps advisors are criminal conmen and his own failsons

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      At this point I’m thinking he’s actually a double agent.
      He’s secretly a democrat and sacrificing himself to ensure Trump doesn’t make it.

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        I think it’s worse. I think he represents a large minority of people who agree with him and just don’t say it aloud. He’s on the ticket in hopes of trump dying in office so they can push this hyper-religious and ridiculous agenda.

        Their only mistake was not realizing how unpalatable their ideas are to the rest of the country. If they understood that, they’d have sent a better liar.

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          These religious weirdos are entirely incapable of not being weird about their religion though. Mike Johnson manages to keep most of his extremism under wraps, but even he for some ridiculous reason decided to talk about his son monitoring his porn habits. They just live in bizarroville and don’t know how utterly weird they are to the vast majority of people.

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          Yeah especially after the supposed stroke back a while ago. And then the possible stroke the other day before the musk interview that perhaps caused the odd lispy speech

          I’m very confused how the whole assassination attempt left the news so quickly… Is it possible that his own party wants him dead?

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    I would love to thank him for the continued damage he’s causing to the republicunt agenda. Every time him or dementia don speak it’s driving more and more people away from them. It’s wonderful

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    I’m a little drunk rn. So just in case anyone else is wondering, the name of the fonts used in that post is Source Code. I like it a lot. Also, fuck Fox News and JD Vance.