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      Never is a long time, though I think the route to meaningful change is not through the Democratic Party. It’s too ossified and is too deeply captured by corporate interests.

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      There are ways to change it. You can attend local Democratic party meetings in your city. You can also vote in the primaries and you could also call Nancy Pelosi yourself. https://pelosi.house.gov/contact/offices/washington-dc-office

      Note about contacting her: sadly she was hospitalized just recently: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/nancy-pelosi-hospitalized-congressional-visit-luxembourg-rcna184144 even if I disagree with her sometimes I still wish her a full recovery. It’s likely that no matter her health it would go to her secretary so perhaps if lots of people call the message would still get passed along to her once she gets better.

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        Or organize locally outside the Democratic Party and field your own candidates, unless the Dems come up with one worth endorsing. And also organize for direct action, because democracy is likely to be blocked for a few years.

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        You can attend local Democratic party meetings in your city. You can also vote in the primaries and you could also call Nancy Pelosi yourself.

        Good news, everybody. I put in a quick call and made a few salient points. Nancy agreed with me on all of them and says she’s reversing her decision.

        even if I disagree with her sometimes I still wish her a full recovery

        Why are you so invested in licking boots?

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          What have you done to make things better? Sitting and not doing anything lets the other people do things you don’t want. Having an influence increases the chances of getting what you want. Imagine if people primaried Nancy Pelosi. Also Nancy Pelosi is likely trying to tank AOC’s committee bid because she feels she’s making the best decision for the party. That’s because people who feel AOC is good for the party aren’t being heard by her.

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            Sitting and not doing anything

            Why are the only two options “Be a three term Congresswoman” or “Do Nothing”?

            Having an influence increases the chances of getting what you want.

            The problem is that AOC has no influence. She can’t impact the language of legislation, the priorities of national spending, or the operation of her assigned committees.

            Imagine if people primaried Nancy Pelosi.

            Its been tried, repeatedly. Her position is unassailable, largely by way of name recognition. The cost of running a campaign in a media market as expensive as San Fransisco’s is astronomical. That, combined with her influence in state and local political leadership, means Dems close ranks and shut more left-leaning candidates out of public leadership in local political establishments.

            Nancy Pelosi is likely trying to tank AOC’s committee bid because she feels she’s making the best decision for the party

            Oh well, in that case, I guess who are we to question her judgement.

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              I think either my post wasn’t clear or you misread it. I’m talking about simple actions you can take to improve the DNC. If you get involved you can have your voice heard in the party. I’m not talking about AOC’s influence, I’m talking about yours.

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                If you get involved you can have your voice heard in the party.

                I don’t think you’ve ever actually volunteered in a Democratic political campaign. The party leadership is far more interested in talking than listening.

                I’m not talking about AOC’s influence

                If a three-term Congresswoman with enormous fundraising power isn’t able to influence her Minority Leader, what is she even doing in that job?

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                  what is she even doing in that job?

                  Waiting for nature to take its course, which won’t be long.

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                People SCREAMED at the party. Muslim Democrat voters made all the democracy moves, and got told to get lost:

                • Organized a massive protest movement,
                • Made their desires and convictions known publicly and directly to leadership who’d listen
                • Turned out and protested in person
                • Were snubbed any kind of representation or platform at the DNC, even for a curated speech by a sitting Congressional member
                • Ran a massive protest vote in the Democratic primaries, which if sustained (which it was in the general) meant that the Dems would loose Michigan at a minimum (which Kamala did) and its 15 electoral college votes went for Trump

                The party has to be listening for anyone’s voice to be heard. Until you hit your FEC donor limit and the throw down even more for a Super PAC, or pay for a seat at fundraiser dinner/chat a you’re definitely a nobody to them. We need a new party:

                Organizers said about 700 people attended the fundraiser. Ticket prices ranged from $3,300 to a half million dollars. Political experts said this visit is essentially a trip to the ATM.

                August 12 Zoom event with North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper, where tickets ranged from $1,000 to $25,000

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        Ah the good ol WORK HARD GET NOTHING american dream

        Even the username ↑ looks like a propaganda bot.