• Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    4 days ago

    “I deserve to exist”

    “wow, why did you have to make things political”

    A statement dreamt up by the utterly deranged.

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        If any minority group was being systemically oppressed, I would absolutely love if the shows and games my children were into included messaging of the problem and how every human is inherently equal.

        And you may think your wording is hyperbole, but trans people are actually being exterminated in parts of the world and imprisoned in others, and are actively having their rights and legal identities taken away in the US as well.

        People upset about seeing trans messaging are the same people who would say “i don’t care about people being gay but stop shoving it down my throat” when they saw one gay couple kiss on tv that month while also seeing 100 straight couples kissing.

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          I disagree with several premises. I wouldn’t want my children’s shows to shoehorn in messages. If it makes sense in the plot for the characters to have and voice an opinion, or if it’s a cleverly written allegory, then that’s great. If they are just creating a character for the exclusive purpose of pushing an agenda (even one I agree with) it’s annoying.

          Whenever someone says “people doing X, are the same people doing Y.” You’re witnessing some broad sweeping generalizations that are usually just the writers opinions. You can just remove the X statement.

          I don’t like when protesters block my road on the way to work, or shove pictures of dead children in people’s faces, but I still can agree with protests against wars etc. Not liking the mode of messaging doesn’t equate to disallowing the massage and that’s fair. Personally, I encourage people to disrupt the actual power structure in place instead of the general population, but that’s just me.

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            If it makes sense in the plot for the characters to have and voice an opinion, or if it’s a cleverly written allegory, then that’s great. If they are just creating a character for the exclusive purpose of pushing an agenda (even one I agree with) it’s annoying.

            lol, and how often are they the former vs the latter?

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              Kinda oddly, I see it done most organically in animation vs live action. Steven Universe is a good example of a show where alot of issues are addressed by main cast and not just a token LGBTQ character that dissappears after their 1 episode about tolerance.

              Examples of random, throw away, characters are harder to remember examples for as they are never important to the story.

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        You might have a point if trans people weren’t being victimized by violence at a massively higher rate. At this point telling trans people they aren’t allowed to advocate for their presence is the same as telling them to die quietly please.

        You are not obligated to engage with their content.