• Micromot@piefed.social
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    8 days ago

    That is not how we will get past capitalism. We need to pick up people where they are. You don’t need to agree but you need to take problems and worries seriously to actually convince someone. Antagonizing only reinforces current opinions.

    • Klear@piefed.world
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      8 days ago

      That’s a lot of words for “I will be hanging out with Nazis”.

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        8 days ago

        Maybe not hanging out but at least trying to understand the reasons that led to the vote. I myself don’t have friends that voted AFD but I think they have a lot of the same problems that I do. Their anger is just very misguided.

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          7 days ago

          Maybe not hanging out but at least trying to understand the reasons that led to the vote.

          I’m telling you, we are past that.

          That period is over.

          They’ve lost the benefit of the doubt.

        • ratofkryll@sh.itjust.works
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          It’s possible to both understand the reasons why the US election went the way it did, and hold individuals accountable for their behaviour, including the way they voted.

          I have a lot of compassion for people who get so caught up in the right wing propaganda machine that they’re willing to vote against their own best interest out of fear. I can’t even begin to imagine living in so much terror of some nebulous other that I end up thinking it’s okay to round up immigrants, bomb children, and criminalize people’s gender identities. It sounds like a horrible way to exist in the world. I am so very angry at the systems that have allowed things to get this bad. That doesn’t change the fact that those individuals are still responsible for the harm their actions - and votes - have caused, and people who are willing to throw away basic human decency like that rather than put the work in to examine their own biases are not welcome anywhere near my life.

          In other words, causing harm out of misguided anger does not diminish the harm done. So, fuck 'em. It’s not my job to play nice in the hopes that they’ll have some come-to-Jesus moment.

          • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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            7 days ago

            It’s possible to both understand the reasons why the US election went the way it did, and hold individuals accountable for their behaviour, including the way they voted.

            Right? Why are people trying to make excuses for grown ass adults who have been ignoring a tsunami of facts for over a decade in favor of voting against the best interests of others AND themselves?

            I’m old enough to have been around watching conservatives/regressives vote against their own best interests for quite some time, but it’s gotten a whole lot more gross over the last decade.

            I will never view conservatives as good people and I’m glad more people are starting to reach that same conclusion. The masks are off now. We’re seeing what they’re really about.

    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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      8 days ago

      voting for a rapist tells you one or two things, you are one yourself, or you support rape. theres no in between of maybes.