Because if your car has broken down, or you’re exhausted from a long day of work and your family is hungry, or you’re too drunk to safely drive but still want food, or if you straight up don’t have a car and don’t want to cook that night, or you are on vacation at a hotel or airbnb and don’t have other access to food, or you have a baby that you can’t just leave alone for a few minutes to go pick the food up, or you are in the middle of a study session and it would be more convenient to have the food come to you rather than going to get it.
Looks like there’s lots of reasons people might take advantage of the service that can deliver food to them, and it’s not unreasonable for them to expect that service to not completely fuck it up.
I started doing Doordash recently to try and get on top of my finances and I’d feel awful about the stuff here
And to be honest
They’re fucking everyone over, the Dashers make basically minimum wage if that, Doordash marks up all the items on the menus, and adds a bunch of bullshit fees.
The only money reliably making it from the customers to the dashers are the tips, and only because they’re required to by law.
But for my case, it’s something flexible and relatively low-effort that I can do when I’m not working my day job
Did you read a fucking word they said? About being exhausted, or having to look after kids, or having housework to do… You’re still gonna find time for 45+ minutes to walk 6 blocks, wait in line, pay, and walk back and still have all the shit you need to do and still eat before it gets cold?
Christ sake… “Just walk 6 blocks”. Tell a single mom that.
Inconvenience of getting your own food is less than over paying for shit service. And you deserve it if you dont realize they dont give a fuck about you.
They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn’t exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash.
Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass “gotcha” that completely ignores reality?
Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too.
Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car.
Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above.
So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to?
Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I’m not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve.
The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though?
You’d have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable.
Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I’m working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn’t have to prepare at all.
I mean literally. We all had to get food before these apps came in. I don’t understand the why we can’t now besides being pure fucking lazy and not willing to do anything to change the status quo instead just bitching about it online acting like there is nothing left to do. It’s so fucking maddening.
Well for most of that history people lived in walkable settlements and cities. Pompeii had fast food stalls. And more recently (relatively) food ordering direct through a restaurant was the norm. Pizza delivery dates back to the 19th century, which is checks notes more than 100 years ago. So yeah, access to food has changed a lot and it is nor unreasonable to expect your delivery driver not to toss your food into the street.
I’m not one to defend DD here, I stopped using them years ago. But strangers are preparing your food too. The driver is just one additional set of hands in the supply chain that brought food to your home.
This is true but those people are at least on camera and surrounded by other people holding them accountable.
Don’t get me wrong I’ve seen some wild wild shit before at restaurants so of course they can still do messed up stuff to the food but having some guy pick it up and ride off with no accountability is super sketchy to me
That’s what makes DD special, though. They absolutely could hold drivers accountable and all that. Other delivery services in the past used to be much more reliable and provided better experiences. Uber Eats is, to a minor extent, a moderately better platform to work with. I still don’t trust them with my business though.
So it’s not delivery services per se.
DD though, is absolutely trash by their own accord.
I was getting g a burger the other day (something I’m loathe to do but it was circumstances…) and as I’m waiting several dasher came in and grabbed orders waiting. I’m a people watcher so I sit where I can watch people come and go while I wait for my order and can still hear my name.
Now, it was storming outside, I mean it was nuts. One of those dashers came in grabbed the bag of food and used it as a rain block to get back to their car. Just held it over their head like it was making any difference at all. Whoever got those soggy fries I hope they don’t go through the hassle again.
I share your perspective and reading these comments made me realize we have different paths of lease resistance.
For some who have gotten used to them, it’s easier to put up with the enshitification than not using them, for others, the path of least resistance is to not use them in the first place.
Pizza delivery is generally cheaper and more reliable, assuming the pizza place has its own drivers. Cheaper because the delivery service is intended to extend the restaurant’s sales, rather than needing to extract enough value to pay both a driver and the middleman app. More reliable because the driver isn’t just some anonymous person that decided to download an app but a driver that has an ongoing relationship with the pizza place.
Stop using them.
I never understood how they are so popular. You are paying double the amount and it’s poor service and food tastes worse
Because if your car has broken down, or you’re exhausted from a long day of work and your family is hungry, or you’re too drunk to safely drive but still want food, or if you straight up don’t have a car and don’t want to cook that night, or you are on vacation at a hotel or airbnb and don’t have other access to food, or you have a baby that you can’t just leave alone for a few minutes to go pick the food up, or you are in the middle of a study session and it would be more convenient to have the food come to you rather than going to get it.
Looks like there’s lots of reasons people might take advantage of the service that can deliver food to them, and it’s not unreasonable for them to expect that service to not completely fuck it up.
Those are all valid individual reasons to get food delivered to you. That’s not what makes DoorDash “popular” tho.
Yeah, tbh I’ve only seen “I don’t feel like driving, let’s DoorDash” in personal experience.
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Yeah seriously
I started doing Doordash recently to try and get on top of my finances and I’d feel awful about the stuff here
And to be honest
They’re fucking everyone over, the Dashers make basically minimum wage if that, Doordash marks up all the items on the menus, and adds a bunch of bullshit fees.
The only money reliably making it from the customers to the dashers are the tips, and only because they’re required to by law.
But for my case, it’s something flexible and relatively low-effort that I can do when I’m not working my day job
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This is why living in a city is awesome. Just walk 6 blocks and get a bite to eat.
Did you read a fucking word they said? About being exhausted, or having to look after kids, or having housework to do… You’re still gonna find time for 45+ minutes to walk 6 blocks, wait in line, pay, and walk back and still have all the shit you need to do and still eat before it gets cold?
Christ sake… “Just walk 6 blocks”. Tell a single mom that.
Enshittification.
Inconvenience of getting your own food is less than over paying for shit service. And you deserve it if you dont realize they dont give a fuck about you.
So basically laziness.
Yea dude. Not wanting to drive after drinking is just laziness.
Consuming a drug without a plan of how the next few hours are going to go is incredibly stupid and lazy, yes.
Yeah bro. Before all these slop delivery apps how did anyone ever survive. Do better. For fucks sake. Such a lazy excuse.
They ordered pizza or Chinese or some local store that had their own delivery drivers. That doesn’t exist anymore. Stores outsource their deliveries to companies like door dash.
Oh sorry, was this supposed to be some dumbass “gotcha” that completely ignores reality?
People produced less, the economy was better, the climate wasn’t at this point in the collapse.
People are so unreasonable for wanting to pay for convenience.
Getting drunk without food prepared ahead of time is laziness. People safely fed themselves for centuries before delivery apps existed, they can do it now too.
Yes, and for centuries, leaving your house while drunk to go get food was a viable option because walking or riding a horse while drunk is a lot safer than driving a car.
Then we got cars, and the roads became dangerous. And yes, there was a brief period where there were no delivery services from restaurants. But very quickly, restaurants realized they could get more sales if they offered to deliver food to people for reasons like the many I listed above.
So to be clear, are you pining for that brief period of time a handful of decades long, between the time of cars being widely adopted and restaurants offering delivery and using that as an example for something you believe everyone should return to?
Completely impossible to get food ahead of time. Just no way to have a pizza in your freezer in case you get hungry after a night out drinking. I just spontaneously get drunk sometimes so it comes out of nowhere and I’m not able to plan ahead. I need DoorDash or I would literally starve.
The freezer pizza is nowhere near as good as a fresh pizza from a decent pizzeria though?
You’d have to cook your own pizza for it to even be comparable.
Like yes I always have something I can heat up at 3 AM if I’m working an all nighter to catch up on shit, but you know what tastes best when drunk? Hot fast food I didn’t have to prepare at all.
Your comment literally screams “No one ever visits me and nothing I do is for enjoyment”
I mean literally. We all had to get food before these apps came in. I don’t understand the why we can’t now besides being pure fucking lazy and not willing to do anything to change the status quo instead just bitching about it online acting like there is nothing left to do. It’s so fucking maddening.
Because I’m already high and forgot I don’t have any food in the house.
Go hungry? Phone a friend? Ask the neighbor?
Not give a tech bro $50 to deliver a depression by exploiting your community.
What do you think we’ve done for checks notes the last 100,000 years that we have been getting high?
Well for most of that history people lived in walkable settlements and cities. Pompeii had fast food stalls. And more recently (relatively) food ordering direct through a restaurant was the norm. Pizza delivery dates back to the 19th century, which is checks notes more than 100 years ago. So yeah, access to food has changed a lot and it is nor unreasonable to expect your delivery driver not to toss your food into the street.
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“No! I want to complain AND be lazy!”
The fact that you have a stranger go and pick up your food is what makes it unthinkable to me. (Although if disabled or injured then I understand)
I’m not one to defend DD here, I stopped using them years ago. But strangers are preparing your food too. The driver is just one additional set of hands in the supply chain that brought food to your home.
DD still sucks, for the record.
This is true but those people are at least on camera and surrounded by other people holding them accountable.
Don’t get me wrong I’ve seen some wild wild shit before at restaurants so of course they can still do messed up stuff to the food but having some guy pick it up and ride off with no accountability is super sketchy to me
That’s what makes DD special, though. They absolutely could hold drivers accountable and all that. Other delivery services in the past used to be much more reliable and provided better experiences. Uber Eats is, to a minor extent, a moderately better platform to work with. I still don’t trust them with my business though.
So it’s not delivery services per se.
DD though, is absolutely trash by their own accord.
HARRY!
I was getting g a burger the other day (something I’m loathe to do but it was circumstances…) and as I’m waiting several dasher came in and grabbed orders waiting. I’m a people watcher so I sit where I can watch people come and go while I wait for my order and can still hear my name. Now, it was storming outside, I mean it was nuts. One of those dashers came in grabbed the bag of food and used it as a rain block to get back to their car. Just held it over their head like it was making any difference at all. Whoever got those soggy fries I hope they don’t go through the hassle again.
I share your perspective and reading these comments made me realize we have different paths of lease resistance.
For some who have gotten used to them, it’s easier to put up with the enshitification than not using them, for others, the path of least resistance is to not use them in the first place.
If you’re having a house party and everyone is drinking and you don’t want to cook, it’s handy, but 90% of the time, the premium is not worth it.
Pizza delivery is generally cheaper and more reliable, assuming the pizza place has its own drivers. Cheaper because the delivery service is intended to extend the restaurant’s sales, rather than needing to extract enough value to pay both a driver and the middleman app. More reliable because the driver isn’t just some anonymous person that decided to download an app but a driver that has an ongoing relationship with the pizza place.
Sure. Good luck finding anywhere that still does that though.
You answered your own question
How would paying more cause it to be popular?
I can get you Lemmy+ if you want! It has the exact same experience, but you get to pay me 10€ a month for the privilege.
Tell me more about Lemmy+. Do I get some sort of visual indicator so other people can tell I’m paying you 10€ per month?
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Except it’s not Lemmy+. It’s just what the standard experience is, and most people seem to tolerate it.
How does paying double make it popular
The answer is that it’s not popular but it’s not enough for people to stop using the service.
This is the correct answer. Those companies that don’t fix their shit will perish.
After they empty your pockets. All part of the grift.
After they empty whose pockets?
Door dash is a shit service, all it takes is one person to put them on blast with the truth.
If that were true they would’ve shut down long ago. Do you really think no one has tried to “put them on blast”?
https://xkcd.com/325
He’s trying to imply dash wins either way that they keep the money
I have never ordered a god damn thing from Uber or Dash after heading how shit it was from others.
But hey, you know what they say about a fool and his money
Correct. They win while riping us off.
Doordash. Ive never used it and will never, but I’ve seen the bills. It’s crazy expensive, don’t need to be a mathematician to see that nonsense.
for real! don’t like something, don’t use it.
isn’t that the main reason we are all here talking on the fediverse, anyway?