• edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    idk, some incels will certainly act like not getting approval from women was the worst possible thing that could happen to them, and then go and do something much worse to others

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      3 days ago

      yeah but this post isn’t about incels. posts like these shoot strays at all men

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        3 days ago

        While I agree, it specifically says “those men,” so I think the idea is that men who see women as wombs or genes or whatever should also expect to be viewed with the same lens

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          It’s not about that. It’s their choice of insult. Saying “people who voted for Trump are retarded” doesn’t make it not ableist just because you specified it’s about Trump voters. Catch my drift?

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            3 days ago

            Ah I see what you’re saying, yeah agreed. I think I too quickly read your comment, cheers

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        3 days ago

        That’s how generalizations and language work. It’s ALWAYS implied that it’s not ALL of a group. Unless someone says “literally all men”, and then whatever that person is saying is wrong because there’s no way it’s literally all.

        So good news, is you’re not like that, it’s not about you.

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          2 days ago

          my entire point is that generalizations are harmful lmao

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          Awesome. So when other racists like yourself talk about “Blacks” or “Mexicans,” that’s fine because we can just assume you don’t mean “ALL Mexicans are rapists,” right?

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            2 days ago

            I don’t follow. How does being bigoted about a group based on race get better when you target less than 100%?

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              Why excuse the same being done for men? I would have said “a group based on sex”, but the people doing this definitely understand the issue when it’s women.

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                22 hours ago

                There’s a good chance you and I won’t ever agree on this, but let me check.

                Do you believe that the current system is biased in favor of straight white men?

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        They’re pretty much the only group I know of that uses female that way on purpose, but I suppose we could just throw in all misogynists and my comment would still apply

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          I think you’re not really getting what I’m saying. See my other comment:

          It’s not about that. It’s their choice of insult. Saying “people who voted for Trump are retarded” doesn’t make it not ableist just because you specified it’s about Trump voters. Catch my drift?

          Equating moral corruption to sexual undesirability is just stupid. It implies the inverse too, that sexually undesirable people are morally corrupt, which is actually a pretty huge problem in society. It also implies that men need validation from women which is just false.

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            Well, I think we can agree on one thing. I guess I don’t really get what you’re saying ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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              I mean, I’ve been pretty clear… and nobody else is having trouble understanding what I’m trying to say. is it possible that on some level you kind of like, don’t want to understand?