I mean that’s kind of the Crux of the issue though. The mom and pop shops really want minimum wage to stay low so they can stay competitive with the big box stores.
But those same big box stores also drive out the mom and pop shop by driving prices much lower than the little shops can and then they suffer because people stop going to the shops because they’re more expensive.
Regardless voting with your wallet is not necessarily a viable choice and I don’t generally think works well. United States has been pushing to buy from small business for over 20 years and yet small businesses still keep on failing. The United States only really helps out big business. Small businesses are left to fend for themselves and often don’t make it. Honestly even if the public is really small business oriented unless the government is also small business oriented it’s kind of like swimming against a tidal wave.
The United States right now has a a social system that’s threatened very close to Bare Bones and is often non-existent for the poorest. Even to make it work it’s a bureaucratic nightmare that involves multiple departments and could involve months of legal business wrangling.
So I can see for you why maybe this minimum wage doesn’t make a lot of sense for the Netherlands but in the material circumstances surrounding the United States I think this minimum wage increase makes a lot of sense especially considering that we haven’t had a significant wage increase since 2009. The median minimum federal wage should be $22 and that allows the poorest communities in the poorest parts of the United States to have a living wage. For anybody else that’s living in poverty that’s still not enough especially in the blue states where most of the social services are located. Even in New York City $30 an hour for minimum wage it’s going to be hardly a drop in the bucket.
I’m not sure about the Netherlands housing crisis but what adds insult to injury and a lot of Sting that ours is that ours is self-induced. It’s literally being created by companies like Black Rock and other hedge fund in stock portfolio businesses buying up residential houses and keeping them empty until the time is right to rent them out to maximize their profits. Currently there is roughly 2 million or so empty houses in the United States and there’s only 600,000 homeless people at Last count.
No I appreciate what you’re trying to get at though and the perspective you offer even if the rest of the community did not. I’m not saying it’s your job as a foreigner to worry about any of this. United States politics is complicated and honestly it really it shouldn’t be up to people outside the country to fix it. Perhaps the Netherlands will show us a way out of the mess that we’ve dug ourselves into with solutions to the problem that you guys have because we also have those problems. I kind of feel like they’re more Universal problems though at this point
Voting with your wallet really only works if you have options. In the EU it is generally easy to just not order from Amazon f.e. but I understand that isn’t an option for everybody. And even if people make a choice it only works if a critical mass does it. That critical mass is pretty low for smaller stores.
I always find it weird that the wages for the US are so much higher even though most products are just cheaper over there. Partially because the sales tax is pretty low compared to VAT. The whole “automatic” difference in wages depending on where you live is BS. If I decide to travel 2 hours to work and my college decides to take a 15-minute drive/walk we should still have the same salary ffs. Different rant and I kinda understand why they do it, but wages will normally go up if they can’t get anybody in the centre of new-york.
I kind of feel like they’re more Universal problems though at this point
A lot of problems are yeah, some are reversed, like we in NL (Europe?) have an employee market while the US has an employer. (aka we have a lot of jobs to choose form and people in the US don´t).
I just hope we can dig all of ourselves about the issues.
From my personal experience people in the US don’t have a lot of different jobs to choose from but we really don’t. Unless you have the education and connections for the most part you’re relegated to retail. It’s hard to even get into management nowadays. Sure there’s job growth but for the most part it’s for minimum wage retail jobs or salary jobs that are for Dollar General where your work 80 hours to the Bone.
Most of my family Works Blue Collar construction jobs because they pay more consistently and they’re easier to get into then the white collar stuff that I work in
Would you mind expanding on how there’s a limited job market in the EU? I have the standard American perspective of the EU of being this nigh utopian place of freedom and competition even though I know it’s actually not like that. The EU does definitely help with those type of regulations. The United States answers to the people with the most money typically the companies. That’s why the iPhones would never be USB C if it was up to Americans.
We have about 2% unemployed people compared to the entire Dutch population, but in some fields like healthcare, accountants, restaurants/cafe’s, etc. It is really hard to find people. It’s so bad that they are gonna make it easier to get your title for accountants.
I mean that’s kind of the Crux of the issue though. The mom and pop shops really want minimum wage to stay low so they can stay competitive with the big box stores.
But those same big box stores also drive out the mom and pop shop by driving prices much lower than the little shops can and then they suffer because people stop going to the shops because they’re more expensive.
Regardless voting with your wallet is not necessarily a viable choice and I don’t generally think works well. United States has been pushing to buy from small business for over 20 years and yet small businesses still keep on failing. The United States only really helps out big business. Small businesses are left to fend for themselves and often don’t make it. Honestly even if the public is really small business oriented unless the government is also small business oriented it’s kind of like swimming against a tidal wave.
The United States right now has a a social system that’s threatened very close to Bare Bones and is often non-existent for the poorest. Even to make it work it’s a bureaucratic nightmare that involves multiple departments and could involve months of legal business wrangling.
So I can see for you why maybe this minimum wage doesn’t make a lot of sense for the Netherlands but in the material circumstances surrounding the United States I think this minimum wage increase makes a lot of sense especially considering that we haven’t had a significant wage increase since 2009. The median minimum federal wage should be $22 and that allows the poorest communities in the poorest parts of the United States to have a living wage. For anybody else that’s living in poverty that’s still not enough especially in the blue states where most of the social services are located. Even in New York City $30 an hour for minimum wage it’s going to be hardly a drop in the bucket.
I’m not sure about the Netherlands housing crisis but what adds insult to injury and a lot of Sting that ours is that ours is self-induced. It’s literally being created by companies like Black Rock and other hedge fund in stock portfolio businesses buying up residential houses and keeping them empty until the time is right to rent them out to maximize their profits. Currently there is roughly 2 million or so empty houses in the United States and there’s only 600,000 homeless people at Last count.
No I appreciate what you’re trying to get at though and the perspective you offer even if the rest of the community did not. I’m not saying it’s your job as a foreigner to worry about any of this. United States politics is complicated and honestly it really it shouldn’t be up to people outside the country to fix it. Perhaps the Netherlands will show us a way out of the mess that we’ve dug ourselves into with solutions to the problem that you guys have because we also have those problems. I kind of feel like they’re more Universal problems though at this point
Voting with your wallet really only works if you have options. In the EU it is generally easy to just not order from Amazon f.e. but I understand that isn’t an option for everybody. And even if people make a choice it only works if a critical mass does it. That critical mass is pretty low for smaller stores.
I always find it weird that the wages for the US are so much higher even though most products are just cheaper over there. Partially because the sales tax is pretty low compared to VAT. The whole “automatic” difference in wages depending on where you live is BS. If I decide to travel 2 hours to work and my college decides to take a 15-minute drive/walk we should still have the same salary ffs. Different rant and I kinda understand why they do it, but wages will normally go up if they can’t get anybody in the centre of new-york.
From my personal experience people in the US don’t have a lot of different jobs to choose from but we really don’t. Unless you have the education and connections for the most part you’re relegated to retail. It’s hard to even get into management nowadays. Sure there’s job growth but for the most part it’s for minimum wage retail jobs or salary jobs that are for Dollar General where your work 80 hours to the Bone.
Most of my family Works Blue Collar construction jobs because they pay more consistently and they’re easier to get into then the white collar stuff that I work in
Would you mind expanding on how there’s a limited job market in the EU? I have the standard American perspective of the EU of being this nigh utopian place of freedom and competition even though I know it’s actually not like that. The EU does definitely help with those type of regulations. The United States answers to the people with the most money typically the companies. That’s why the iPhones would never be USB C if it was up to Americans.
At least in The Netherlands we have issues finding new employees in different businesses. It’s going down a bit, but we have 101 open positions for every 100 people without work. https://www.cbs.nl/nl-nl/visualisaties/dashboard-arbeidsmarkt
We have about 2% unemployed people compared to the entire Dutch population, but in some fields like healthcare, accountants, restaurants/cafe’s, etc. It is really hard to find people. It’s so bad that they are gonna make it easier to get your title for accountants.