I actually like it how “expert” becomes “Thing-Knower” in Finnish. Finnish language has such a beautiful system of deriving words and new terms. I actually find it really disappointing to look at Estonian when they obviously just nab a lot of words from Latin/Greek roots. I mean, really, Disco Elysium? “Kontseptsualisatioon”? I mean, you could translate conceputalisation into Finnish as “konseptualisointi”, but why the hell would you use a weird Latinate shit when we have a perfectly useful Fenno-Ugric term already in use, “käsitteellistäminen”?
(“Käsitteellistäminen” comes from “käsi” (hand) → “käsite” (concept; something to be grasped, to be held in hand, I guess figuratively speaking?) → “käsitteellistää” (to make a concept, to conceptualise) → “käsitteellistäminen” (noun form of the verb, conceptualisation).
For a while I had multiple language keyboards on my phone, at some point, I forget why, I had a Dutch keyboard, and sometimes I’d fat finger the button that switched languages, and would end up typing out English on the Dutch keyboard and get really confused by it insisting I had spelled half the words wrong, it felt like my spell check was gas lighting me.
Keep at it. Speak as much as you can, if any Danes switch over to English keep speaking Danish. Forget about trying to find rules for when to say et or en, there isn’t any. When it came to sounds, I just tried to match with how English sometimes sounds. When a word ends in ede like billede, its close to an English th sound. Stuff like that. Read newspapers and find a good TV show to watch, watch the news even.
You’ll get there. 😊
I have been here for 25 years. My Danish ex’s dad helped a lot, he gave me a reason to learn otherwise we couldn’t communicate.
It is a fundamentally different language family. English and danish have more in common with Polish, Italian, Farsi and Hindi than they do with finish.
Finish is closer to Estonian and Hungarian than anything else in Europe.
Because it can be read as “asian-tuntija” and to me “tuntija” sounds a bit like “tortilla” except “tun” in my language meaning “tuna” so it becomes “asian tuna-tilla”.
So what I’m saying is just that it’s the spelling that looks a bit weird to me.
“Asiantuntija” means expert? Finnish is so strange, and that’s coming from a Dane.
I actually like it how “expert” becomes “Thing-Knower” in Finnish. Finnish language has such a beautiful system of deriving words and new terms. I actually find it really disappointing to look at Estonian when they obviously just nab a lot of words from Latin/Greek roots. I mean, really, Disco Elysium? “Kontseptsualisatioon”? I mean, you could translate conceputalisation into Finnish as “konseptualisointi”, but why the hell would you use a weird Latinate shit when we have a perfectly useful Fenno-Ugric term already in use, “käsitteellistäminen”?
(“Käsitteellistäminen” comes from “käsi” (hand) → “käsite” (concept; something to be grasped, to be held in hand, I guess figuratively speaking?) → “käsitteellistää” (to make a concept, to conceptualise) → “käsitteellistäminen” (noun form of the verb, conceptualisation).
Language is wild, every time I see Dutch it takes a few seconds to process what I’m actually reading
“Tell me the gender of this word, you Germanic piece of shit!”
For a while I had multiple language keyboards on my phone, at some point, I forget why, I had a Dutch keyboard, and sometimes I’d fat finger the button that switched languages, and would end up typing out English on the Dutch keyboard and get really confused by it insisting I had spelled half the words wrong, it felt like my spell check was gas lighting me.
It could also be directly translated to basically “thingknower” which is fun.
As a Brit that has become fluent in Danish, Finnish is just incomprehensible. Its like Klingon.
Fuckin hell, how long did that take you? I’m slowly picking up pieces but I don’t see myself becoming fluent at any point. Mange tak!
Keep at it. Speak as much as you can, if any Danes switch over to English keep speaking Danish. Forget about trying to find rules for when to say et or en, there isn’t any. When it came to sounds, I just tried to match with how English sometimes sounds. When a word ends in ede like billede, its close to an English th sound. Stuff like that. Read newspapers and find a good TV show to watch, watch the news even. You’ll get there. 😊
I have been here for 25 years. My Danish ex’s dad helped a lot, he gave me a reason to learn otherwise we couldn’t communicate.
It is a fundamentally different language family. English and danish have more in common with Polish, Italian, Farsi and Hindi than they do with finish.
Finish is closer to Estonian and Hungarian than anything else in Europe.
How is asiantuntija any weirder than “expert”?
Because it can be read as “asian-tuntija” and to me “tuntija” sounds a bit like “tortilla” except “tun” in my language meaning “tuna” so it becomes “asian tuna-tilla”.
So what I’m saying is just that it’s the spelling that looks a bit weird to me.
Congrats you splitted the word from the right spot.
“Asia” means thing and “asian” means “thing’s”
“Tuntea” means knowing or feeling and “tuntija” means a person who knows or feels.
So asiantuntija is somebody who knows about the that one spesific thing.
Also as a completelly unneccessary attack. Your whole language sounds like what our elementary students sound like when they are learning sweden.
As a linguaphile and a conlanger I absolutely love how that parses out. Well done, Finnish.
Expert starts with ex which is almost like sex which is seksi and pert reminds me of Pertti so that’s weird to me.
I’m just joking around but yeah it’s all about what we’re used to
Oh yeah, we playfully use the word “sexpert” regularly here, so I get it :)
Reminds me of “expertsexchange.com” that was a domain for Experts Exchange, even though I’d guess it’s not what most thought it was at first read lol
and expert (ekspertti) could jokingly mean someone who used to be Pertti (finnish name)