Anon got it backwards, networks noticed how profitable Netflix was and bumped the price for Netflix to stream their stuff. Netflix responded by producing their own content rather than leasing others’ at exorbitant rates. Then Netflix later got greedy and bumped their prices, lowered their quality, and cancelled all of their good shows.
I think it’s a bit of both. Netflix knew that companies choosing to pull their content would be a threat, so they prematurely started producing content (famously starting with House of Cards and Orange is the New Black). Whether because they saw this as a threat or because of the perceived greater profitability of their own platforms (probably a bit of both), other studios started pulling their content from Netflix and setting up their own streaming sites.
And naturally, other companies pulling their content accelerated Netflix’s desire to produce their own content to ensure they weren’t left in the lurch.
It’s remarkable how people can see right past what was actually happening and only see what they want to see. Netflix was never trying to be the good guy. Netflix didn’t offer low prices out of the goodness of it’s hearts. It doesn’t have a heart, it has a ledger. The reason why Netflix offered a lot of content for a low price is because the company was trying to disrupt traditional cable. It was always the plan to increase prices, Netflix didn’t become greedy, it always was. It’s just that for a time the companies greed aligned with the publics greed. Once that relationship was no longer beneficial to Netflix it raised the prices, that was the plan all along.
There certainly are some companies that seek to do good, or are run by good people. Arizona Green Tea is the current favourite but there are for sure others. The thing is though that there’re huge incentives to being greedy and awful, and a distinct lack of punishment for that behaviour, to the point where so fucking many of these companies are either evil or committing enough evil actions that it doesn’t matter at all the difference anymore.
Also they weren’t saying that the argument is unique to Netflix but ok then.
When their background image shows up on retail clothing*, that price hike & quiet pivot to resting on their cultural presence to milk their market was only a meter of time. ☝🏼
*IMHO, that shit’s right up there with oversized button-downs emblazoned with copious flames around a serpentine dragon/soaring eagle/howling wolf/et al. 🤦🏼♂️
Whomp, that sucks. It’s about on par, and yea I’ve noticed for a while but unless they’ve changed hands, at some point they do need to survive. In the same way I think wages should go up with inflation, I do understand the need to raise prices from time to time as well. The issue I have is with predatory price jumps, shrink-flation, etc. and doubly when the only people who benefit are the super wealthy at the top.
That’s the thing though: they don’t need to survive.
We, The People never needed them to.
Yet, they gorge themselves on our public funds (ie. “bail out”= oopsie, free do-over w/ bonus) ifwhen they invariably fail to come up with yet another scheme before their greed tanks run dry. (There’s no “if” here, it’s a disgusting “when”.)
Every fucking time.
Then, it’s right back to the age-old tradition of bleeding us all more directly —mostly legal, too. 🤷🏼♂️
“Too big to fail”? Nah. Too corrupt to die deservedly, too greedy to change their implicit nature.
Funny thing about guillotines: they get right to the point. No more bullshit, no more wrigglin’, no more spin. Binary and decisive. Ah, the good ol’ days. 🤪
Yeah I consulted for the cable industry around the time that everyone was just starting to try to build their own services to compete with Netflix. It wasn’t a secret that production companies would be pulling their content. There were licensing agreements signed that had expiration dates.
So it was more like a race on both ends. Production companies were like “we get exclusive streaming rights to our movies back in X months, so we need to have our own platform up and running.” And Netflix was like “we lose streaming rights to these movies in X months, we need to make some content to replace it with.”
It doesn’t really matter, though. The only cause of companies pulling their content is Netflix’s success. There was no way Netflix could have prevented it.
Unpopular opinion, but I wasn’t a fan. Was it a bad show? No! Did I enjoy it? Sometimes. How it developed the cult following that it has, I can’t quite piece together. Fantastic voice acting and sound design can only pull so much weight!
An excellent concept with some interesting opportunities, butchered by regressing it to the same kitschy formulaic plotlines as every other uninspiring adult animation show. I don’t want Big Bang Theory, I want Twin Peaks.
Hunh. It’s almost as if the same fucksticks from pre-internet days were suddenly pulling rank on the youngins and handing down decrees of returning to tried & true profit lines —despite that being a shit idea with a volatile, barely-sustainable lifespan.
Anon got it backwards, networks noticed how profitable Netflix was and bumped the price for Netflix to stream their stuff. Netflix responded by producing their own content rather than leasing others’ at exorbitant rates. Then Netflix later got greedy and bumped their prices, lowered their quality, and cancelled all of their good shows.
I think it’s a bit of both. Netflix knew that companies choosing to pull their content would be a threat, so they prematurely started producing content (famously starting with House of Cards and Orange is the New Black). Whether because they saw this as a threat or because of the perceived greater profitability of their own platforms (probably a bit of both), other studios started pulling their content from Netflix and setting up their own streaming sites.
And naturally, other companies pulling their content accelerated Netflix’s desire to produce their own content to ensure they weren’t left in the lurch.
Yall are overcomplicating things. Let me simplify.
Capitalist corporations + infinite greed = cannibalism
Wait. They’re gonna start eating each other? Are tix still available, or is it all scalpers now? ✊🏼
I am so confused, i saw this post like 20 minutes ago… how do i have an almost 2y old comment on it?
Anyway i am pretty sure i meant greedy corporations will eventually start exploiting eachother and the systems that allow them to exist.
Ah, that’s just my spicy brain at the helm while I try to caffeinate and retake the bridge. I didn’t even clock the date stamp. 😂
It’s remarkable how people can see right past what was actually happening and only see what they want to see. Netflix was never trying to be the good guy. Netflix didn’t offer low prices out of the goodness of it’s hearts. It doesn’t have a heart, it has a ledger. The reason why Netflix offered a lot of content for a low price is because the company was trying to disrupt traditional cable. It was always the plan to increase prices, Netflix didn’t become greedy, it always was. It’s just that for a time the companies greed aligned with the publics greed. Once that relationship was no longer beneficial to Netflix it raised the prices, that was the plan all along.
Frankly, I’m unsure if a systemically exploited population can be referred to as “greedy”, NGL.
But that’s a zero sum argument. Every company is evil following that logic. No company does anything except for money.
You can make that argument, but it isn’t unique to Netflix.
You’re getting there! Just a little further, now.
There certainly are some companies that seek to do good, or are run by good people. Arizona Green Tea is the current favourite but there are for sure others. The thing is though that there’re huge incentives to being greedy and awful, and a distinct lack of punishment for that behaviour, to the point where so fucking many of these companies are either evil or committing enough evil actions that it doesn’t matter at all the difference anymore.
Also they weren’t saying that the argument is unique to Netflix but ok then.
soz for necro but Arizona no longer has my whole heart since I got charged $3.50 for a can, they don’t all have {$.99} printed on them anymore :(
When their background image shows up on retail clothing*, that price hike & quiet pivot to resting on their cultural presence to milk their market was only a meter of time. ☝🏼
*IMHO, that shit’s right up there with oversized button-downs emblazoned with copious flames around a serpentine dragon/soaring eagle/howling wolf/et al. 🤦🏼♂️
Whomp, that sucks. It’s about on par, and yea I’ve noticed for a while but unless they’ve changed hands, at some point they do need to survive. In the same way I think wages should go up with inflation, I do understand the need to raise prices from time to time as well. The issue I have is with predatory price jumps, shrink-flation, etc. and doubly when the only people who benefit are the super wealthy at the top.
That’s the thing though: they don’t need to survive.
We, The People never needed them to.
Yet, they gorge themselves on our public funds (ie. “bail out”= oopsie, free do-over w/ bonus)
ifwhen they invariably fail to come up with yet another scheme before their greed tanks run dry. (There’s no “if” here, it’s a disgusting “when”.)Every fucking time.
Then, it’s right back to the age-old tradition of bleeding us all more directly —mostly legal, too. 🤷🏼♂️
“Too big to fail”? Nah. Too corrupt to die deservedly, too greedy to change their implicit nature.
Funny thing about guillotines: they get right to the point. No more bullshit, no more wrigglin’, no more spin. Binary and decisive. Ah, the good ol’ days. 🤪
Yes, Netflix famously said they need to be HBO before HBO could become Netflix.
Yeah I consulted for the cable industry around the time that everyone was just starting to try to build their own services to compete with Netflix. It wasn’t a secret that production companies would be pulling their content. There were licensing agreements signed that had expiration dates.
So it was more like a race on both ends. Production companies were like “we get exclusive streaming rights to our movies back in X months, so we need to have our own platform up and running.” And Netflix was like “we lose streaming rights to these movies in X months, we need to make some content to replace it with.”
It doesn’t really matter, though. The only cause of companies pulling their content is Netflix’s success. There was no way Netflix could have prevented it.
Don’t apologize for, much less anthropomorphize, any/all corporations.
You’re doing their work for them —and, for free, FFS. 🤬
RIP Inside Job
Unpopular opinion, but I wasn’t a fan. Was it a bad show? No! Did I enjoy it? Sometimes. How it developed the cult following that it has, I can’t quite piece together. Fantastic voice acting and sound design can only pull so much weight!
I didn’t care for it either.
I gave it like 3-4 episodes but couldn’t do it. I thought given the cult following and reputation it’d be right up my alley.
From what it looks like here, I’m kinda relieved I have no idea what that show is.
An excellent concept with some interesting opportunities, butchered by regressing it to the same kitschy formulaic plotlines as every other uninspiring adult animation show. I don’t want Big Bang Theory, I want Twin Peaks.
Hunh. It’s almost as if the same fucksticks from pre-internet days were suddenly pulling rank on the youngins and handing down decrees of returning to tried & true profit lines —despite that being a shit idea with a volatile, barely-sustainable lifespan.