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Remember, when people made content just for the fun of it
I do, and I miss it. What’s more I’ve never once seen a Mr beast video.
Avoid the cruft, roll your own content and find smaller, individual communities like these tubes used to be a decade (or more) ago.
What’s more I’ve never once seen a Mr beast video.
And nothing of value was lost.
Mr. Beast only offers “charity porn” that makes him richer. He’s not doing anything to change the systems in place that make the problems he “solves” any better. He’s just putting band-aids on small groups of people while doing nothing to address larger issues. Hell, he himself is an example of a larger issue. We should not have to rely on the rich to fix societies problems, that’s what fucking taxes are for, and Mr. Beast needs to be taxed until his fucking channel is gone.
I fully await for him to completely deep throat Elon to make more money. Mr. Beast doesn’t care about pesky things like real morals or values, or he wouldn’t be online friends with the likes of Musk to begin with. All he cares about is the dollar signs.
EDIT: I’m definitely expecting the day when some journalist does a “big reveal” on all the shady horrible shit that goes on with Mr. Beast and his companies.
EDIT II: You know Mr. Beast doesn’t give a flying fuck about anything but money because he’s still friends with Musk after the very public reveal of one of his staff being trans. The fact that he can be friends with such a fucking bigot while “supporting” their trans staff member reveals how little he actually gives a fuck about the issue. He’s happy to be friends with people who would deny Kris the life she wishes to lead, so how much does he really care?
Yeah “Mr Beast Burger” is a great example of this. He hired a company known for shitty “virtual” restaurants (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Dining_Concepts) to slap his name on a ton of franchises to capitalize on his YouTube popularity and get kids to beg their parents to eat there
And now they’re both suing each other
https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/mrbeast-burger-lawsuit-inedible-response-1235685415/
They both deserve each other
I don’t even mind the concept of a ghost kitchen, if you don’t want to manage a front of house, fuck it, do pickup and delivery only like so many pizza places do, or run a delivery only brand on top of your existing brick and mortar to avoid contaminating expectations between the two, that’s fine, but just like everything else it gets labor exploited to benefit the owner class by running a dozen “restaurants” out of the same kitchen
There are no “rate limiters” in these kinds of kitchens, either. You can literally have 100 people all order over the internet within 10 seconds of each other, and now all of them expect their orders to be ready in a timely manner. Not fucking happening, you know?
Internet ordering is fucking ruining restaurants and overworking everyone in them.
Online ordering needs a wait time system if the kitchen is too busy, just like waiting for a table. People can order elsewhere if the wait is too long, just like in-person.
It really seems like it wouldnt be too hard to give an option for the restaurant to be able to put in the average prep time for each dish, and start building a queue based on those times. So even if they come within seconds of each other, a computer can catch which one came first, and put them in order, and then add a time-frame that takes previous orders into account before it shows the customer a time before their order is ready.
Oh yeah I don’t mind the concept, I mind this company specifically, it’s pretty clear their whole schpiel is to take some celebrity name and slap it on some shitty food to drive up clout based sales
People who quickly turn to lawsuits instead of trying to find a solution through respectful communication care about one thing only: money.
So yeah, they’re perfect for each other.
that’s what fucking taxes are for, and Mr. Beast needs to be taxed until his fucking channel is gone.
Why until his channel is gone? If he’s a business, we need to tax him and his business appropriately. More, sure. But taxing a business until it’s gone is counterproductive, even if you don’t like what the business stands for…
His “business” is a charity. Charity shouldn’t have to exist in a world with enough wealth to support everyone.
If his channel became something else, sure. But the point is he would be taxed until all those problems he “fixes” are solved, and then he wouldn’t have much to put on his channel, would he?
If you take away the “charity” what the fuck does Mr. Beast even bring to the table?
Oh, I didn’t know that. Thank you!
I’ve had a much more enjoyable time on freetube because of this, actually. unlike youtube who feeds you content based on what makes them the most money, it tends to actually show you videos that are relevant to what you’re watching. whether it has millions of views or 100.
it feels like the smaller communities are a little more warm and fun.
Check out Brahkie on YouTube if you haven’t already
Fuck, remember webcomics?
Achewood, Diesel Sweeties, Cat and Girl, Penny Arcade, Cyanide & Happiness, Joe and Monkey, Questionable Content, Dresden Codak (always updated way too infrequently), Dinosaur Comics, Gone With the Blastwave, Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal, The Perry Bible Fellowship, When I Grow Up/WIGU/Overcompensating, Married to the Sea, hell, even CTRL+ALT+DEL left us with Loss. I could go on, there’s definitely more.
…but I don’t like to talk about what happened with SinFest.
A lot of these sites had advertising, but I don’t remember any of it being so off-putting that I felt the need for an adblocker. Honestly, at this point, I don’t even recall if adblockers were a thing yet in 2000-2005.
So much content in those early aughts. I’m still waiting on a Complete Achewood. Damn you, Chris Onstad!
I was always a little disappointed I never was able to get a “I’m the guy who sucks/plus I got depres-sion” shirts.
I remember having popup blockers, but not a whole cloth ad blocker.
I actually bought things from their ads because I wanted to support them. Those days are long gone.
They mostly advertised other comics and merchandise from other comics, if I recall correctly.
Also, Adblock originally released in 2002, and Adblock Plus came out in 2006.
I do recall one of the reasons I respected webcomics ads was they weren’t ones that were animated, blaring music, or asking me to try to play a mini-game by clicking on something that specifically can’t be caught by your mouse.
I still read the order of the stick, even though it updates glacially: https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.html
It’s so good. Starts as a goofy DND joke strip, develops a ton of pathos.
What early 2000’s webcomics taught me is there were a lot of really great writers out there with some subpar art skills.
When the writing is so good, you don’t give a shit that it’s all stick figures.
EDIT: I almost forgot. With some of them, the best part was watching them go from stick figures to genuinely great art. Penny Arcade is a great example. The originals were so badly drawn, and it went from bad art to an artist literally having a style all their own.
Some of them were actually pretty good artists; occasionally you’d see them do other stuff and it’d be genuinely good on an artistic level.
The whole stick man, lumpy face, primitivist thing was just an “in” aesthetic (while also being conveniently really quick to produce).
There are a few webcomics out there that have some excellent artwork. Lackadaisy is the first to come to mind, though updates have always been verrrry sporadic—especially now that she’s working on an animated version—and there was one called The Abominable Charles Christopher that was fucking phenomenal, but it just sorta… stopped. I’m still subscribed to the RSS because I’m holding out hope, but I know it’s over.
Oh Jeeze thanks for the reminder of Abominable Charles Christopher. I was always so disappointed when it just sort of stopped. I always assumed he got a professional gig through the work he was doing.
Some of them were actually pretty good artists; occasionally you’d see them do other stuff and it’d be genuinely good on an artistic level.
Right, but some of them also blossomed beautifully!
I remember Dresden Codak being good art from the get-go, and it only got better over the years. Same with Perry Bible Fellowship, that guys got some fucking artistic chops.
The whole stick man, lumpy face, primitivist thing was just an “in” aesthetic (while also being conveniently really quick to produce).
I’d say this went for things like Cyanide and Happiness, which if I recall correctly, had a series of artists, it wasn’t all just one person.
Stuff like Sluggy Freelance? Yeah, the art and writing really never got that much better.
Then you have Dinosaur Comics, whose entire shtick was (and is) just re-using the exact same panels for every comic.
Once again… We don’t talk about SinFest.
I’m happy to see that Something Positive is still going strong. Dude is a great person and it’s fun to see his parenting come out through the comic as I catch up and now relate to some of that more than I did before.
Anders loves Maria
Hell, I’m about to go and edit my original comment and make links to any that are still around. Looks like a lot of them are!
Here’s the link for Anders loves Maria.
Freefall is still going strong, 3 panels a week. Since like 1998 or something. Never loses the humor either, unlike some comics that ditch humor once they develop dramatic plot.
One of my absolute favorite webcomics is Peter and Company. I didn’t realize this, but the website lists the first strip as being from 2005 and the latest being from last month.
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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
oldest personal completely original YouTube video is like 14 yrs old
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Yes. In fact, it got me a lot of attention. I got into a bunch of newspapers, interviewed on NPR, etc. Then my audience started drifting away and on to the next thing… and then YouTube decided to monetize. My account was monetized for a while. I made a grand total of $100 before it was demonetized again.
May I ask what kind of stuff you created?
My big hit was “The Skeletor Show.” It’s still on YouTube. But I did many other things on the account before deciding I didn’t feel like making comedy videos anymore a few years ago. Occasionally people post asking me to please come back, but I don’t know that I ever will.
I will say that it did get me some jobs when I needed work, which was the original goal of the show anyway.
Oh I remember this! A buddy of mine was making a similar style show during roughly the same period using the classic Star Trek cartoon. Similarly Sealab 2021 influenced.
Very nice and thanks for the reminder.
I actually did that too…
Wish I could share my friends work, but he always kept his videos private. He would occassionally open one up so I could check it out, but he would always make them private again. I should have been using yt-dl to download them all.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://www.piped.video/watch?v=v-DYY9mdme4
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Word!
There’s still plenty of people doing that. But their uploads will be inconsistent when they upload and quality. The views will also be low so YouTube’s algorithm won’t recommend it unless they pay to advertise.
My YouTube recommendation page is full of channels with sub 100 subscribers. Because I actually watch them since I find those videos engaging for different reasons. If you actually watch small YouTube channels YouTube is more than happy to serve those channels to you.
Just don’t get the guy musk hired.
If someone is getting rich off of it though, it had better be the creator.
Bro, that was like 20+ years ago 😂😭
Absolutely true, but should we be okay with it when every aspect of human communication must be monetized to matter?
We have no choice in the matter, as you can plainly see.
I’m definitely not okay with plenty of things I have no choices in the matters thereof.
It’s a bit like telling slaves who don’t like being enslaved “well, you don’t have a choice in the matter” like that somehow impacts how they feel about it?
Yeah?
No matter what, the amount of money, contests, and just absolute overindulgence capable by Mr Beast is insane in any functioning society. The disparity is so bad these influencers and people with money swoop in, gift people egregious and lavish gifts are rewards for contests, and use that to further enrich themselves through monetized channels. Its sickening to watch. This shouldn’t be reality.
The comments replying seem to ignore one of the key aspects of your opinion. It’s about Mr Beast getting his name and face on every interaction. If the networks shoved “WERE GONNA BLOW UP THIS LABORGHINI BECAUSE CBS!” “WERE GONNA FEED THIS HOMELESS DUDE! CBS! CBS!” ad nauseam it would be a different animal, but somehow ostentatious displays of consumption and self-promotion are acceptable for some.
My main point is, you motherfuckers want to help? Money = free speech right now. Money is law. Use that fucken shit to sway laws. Start locally. They don’t want to help. They want to play saint lottery for instant good boy points while solving nothing. Its disgusting. May they all feast on each other at the table in hell.
The old system where the networks got all the money was way better.
Suddenly it’s 1960.
Microsoft, Apple, Amazon and Google have replaced ABC, NBC, PBS and CBS.
Your “
personal computerinternet appliance” is a black-box running rented software, just like in the ‘dumb-terminal time-sharing’ era.
For sure but Mr. Beast doesn’t actually keep any of the money for himself.
He does though. You can’t build fancy sets and put on huge productions without having money. Like yeah, Jimmy might not have millions of dollars in his personal bank account, but his business sure does.
He frequently talks about it. Often his videos costs about as much as they make.
He just likes doing the videos and helping people
My point is its batshit insane we have half the population unable to afford a fly farting on their car while a noticeable portion is able to gift people life transformations. You can’t mitigate all failures on an individual level, people will lose and get hurt, but this is beyond individual responsibility. Its self-gratification and exuberant indulgence on a scale that would make Slaanesh cum. If any of these people truly wanted to help people and not just play Saint Lottery, they would use their power to lobby for better regulations and worker conditions. Since money is free speech you know.
I know what you’re saying, I’m just confused why this anger is being directed at Mr. Beast of all people. I’m saying he’s doing more for people than most ever will. Maybe he should use his platform for political activism and lobbying, I don’t know. I mean, If he did how far could he go with that when what he’s doing is working well and he is able to help real people without redtape and bureaucracy. Yes he’s playing the capitalist system to help people, but it’s working and he is able to do it because he makes a good show of it. Would he be able to do the same if he dedicated himself to politics? I don’t know.
Its not hard to run fake restaurants out of other franchisee’s properties. Its also not hard to sell energy drinks from gas station shelves when you already have a brand name. None of these people have it hard, or would not be able to post videos of them depriving 40+ people of necessities as they each sit in separated circles to compete for money. Jimmy doesn’t fight the laws with all the free speech he has acquired through his life because they are what directed the fiscal winds of change into his pocket. It would damage his finances, and his many business, if the average person had it better. The anger is directed at the machine, of which he happens to be a substantial cog.
I mean it’s easier to stack him since he’s in the public culture. I just disagree he’s a substantial cog. There are far larger and critical institutions that reinforce the system and do far for damage to society. Talking as if Mr. Beast has any actual influence or powerful is laughable.
I want to believe that.
Imagine running scam on video views like, 5 years after Facebook’s infamously bs « pivot to video » bombed. What a visionary man.
I’ve seen his memes, five years behind everyone else is p much his M.O.
They can have him sick of seeing him shoe up in thumbnails
You will hate MrBeastify
Do not recommend this channel anymore. ✅
Why is it people who hoard wealth and use that wealth to hoard more wealth by fucking as many people as possible always get this dismissive “eh of course they do shrug,” - but as soon as somebody finds wealth and is like “how can I do something useful with this” then uses that wealth to start a food bank and fund water/energy projects for needy communities we gotta spend our day breaking down how they’re evil and sus?
Because people who get this rich do it by exploiting the poor. They aren’t going to turn around and be nice. People who get this rich start as absolute shit bags. They remain the same after.
… that doesn’t answer the question they asked.
Did you literally not even manage to read a whole one paragraph comment before responding?
My brother in Christ he’s a fucking YouTuber. If you don’t want to be in a video, say no. 🤷
Of course for all this screeching about exploitation I’d happily put down $50 that says you wouldn’t turn down a free car because you “don’t want to be exploited.”
Go tell the people in the 21 counties of NC his food pantry travels to that they’re being exploited and see what they think of your hot take. Or are you one of those “feeding people robs them of their bootstraps” types?
You can feed people and do good things while exploiting them to further your notoriety and wealth. These are not mutually exclusive. It is perfect acceptable to be turned off or even disgusted by someone shoving a camera into every situation to extract some kind of profit from it along with self-aggrandizement, even if some of those profits are returned to the community that helped generate those profits as a “good deed”.
Don’t let ideals get in the way of good. While what you say is true, he could literally help no one if he hadn’t followed this business model. He wouldn’t have the cash. His videos bring in more cash which can help more people. Yes he makes money too but its more distasteful to me to be someone like you who prefers less people get help if someone else profits from it than it is to be someone like him who helps more people than you are and also makes money from it.
A bit rich for you to be saying his way is wrong when you probably haven’t ponyed up your own cash to help even a fraction of the people. The world you want to exist does not. Everything has a cost. Id rather people do some good in exchange for that cost than wish everyone did everything for free which incentivizes no one to do anything.
I don’t watch him. His videos don’t really appeal for me but I recognize the good that can be done in such a format.
That’s a fat lie for you to say that I prefer people not be helped.
Where’s your cash dump to the poor?
You read what you wanted and made the rest up. It is also possible be disgusted with someone’s approach and still understand it helps people.
rounds back to original point of how somebody who does literally anything with their wealth gets this huge tirade about how they’re evil but the richer YouTubers and actual billionaires face no real critique.
It really is weird how a millionaire who runs a food bank and funds various infrastructure projects is more villainous to people than billionaires who play every corporate greed trick in the book, and I’m tired of people acting like it’s not.
You’re not wrong. But that doesn’t mean we have to accept relentless self-promotion either. You also forget he’s still gonna be rich, barring financial disaster. Gonna point your finger at him when he’s done with YouTube, sitting in a 10k sq ft mansion with a garage full of exotics? If we want to point fingers I’d be willing to be lt a bunch of those “actual billionaires” engage in a lot of philanthropy without sticking their identity in front of a camera telling you about it at every turn?
This stuff smacks of evangelical prosperity gospel. Just give me money so I can do the lord’s work and drive to the church in my Lambo, except there’s nobody controlling a gateway to Heaven, just a mention and a shout out to top donors in a video.
You didn’t answer my question.
Why do billionaires who do a fraction of a fraction of what he does get a free pass to actively steal economic activity from their workers and customers because their product isn’t content - but somebody whose business is creating something of value (content) who pays his people reasonably and also does good for people needs to be be taken down at every turn and shat on at every opportunity?
Corporate apologism at its finest, right here. The only true evil is making money via creating a popular product instead of stealing the economic value of those who create a product for you because you already had all the capital to start with. Infinite corporate greed is good because it’s private, using your money and platform to help people is evil because they do it in the open.
GTFO
Nobody is giving them a free pass. You’re the only one suggesting that. We’re discussing the weather and you keep jumping in and yelling the sky is blue. No shit, sherlock, but we’re discussing the weather. Don’t you get it? You’re the only person saying that. We’re talking about Mr Beast, and all you keep saying is What about all those other people? I don’t give a shit about them because we’re talking about Mr Beast. You’re the guy that keeps jumping into the conversation and trying to change the subject to make it about something else. You’re nuts or completely live under a rock if you think lemmy/reddit/fediverse doesn’t shit on billionaires regularly, doesn’t discuss wealth inequality, doesn’t point out ostentatious displays of wealth. Do other billionaires get a pass? NO. Now let us continue our discussion without having to be reminded about something we already know.
“Bad” rich people are dismissed because Lemmy users expect this behavior of them. What they don’t expect or believe in is someone genuinely using their wealth for good.
“If God is all powerful, he cannot be all good. And if he is all good, then he cannot be all powerful”
I, for one, have no idea who MrBeast is. Wish I also didn’t know who Must was.
The largest individual youtuber in the world. He has several channels, the main ones are Mr.Beast and Mr.Beast philanthropy.
I think the main selling point of youtube is watching people do things you cannot, either due to time, expertise, or money. Mr.Beast kinda personifies that, as many of his videos cost over $1M to make and are original owing to nobody else being able to make them, ala ‘I made a lazer dungeon, first person to reach the end wins $500k’ .
I’ve seen some of those videos since my son likes him. The issue is that a lot of his content is obviously scripted. If the content itself is scripted (faked), why should I believe that money is actually given out in the end and, again, not just part of the script?
He also was one of the first to master the YouTube algorithm and perfected the video format to engage viewers the most.
I agree but in a way where I absolutely hate that he did this. Mr Beast is one of the worst things to happen to YouTube.
Double edge sword. We now know better than before about how the algorithm works thanks to him. Unfortunately, that also means that others are now equipped with similar spam knowledge.
I don’t really know either but my son definitely knows.
Somehow Mr. Beast vacuums kid’s brains into a mind sucking vortex that has landed Mr. Beast as one of, if not the #1 most subscribed YouTuber in existence.
Perhaps that also makes him the highest earning YouTuber as well, because the guy is seemingly just giving away insane $ figures at every turn yet always has more.
Mr Beast uses the revenue he got from YouTube views and donates them. Which he then videos and create more revenue. Not a bad business model if you ask me. He wasn’t even rich to begin with. His assets and wealth all started from YouTube.
For companies, it’s free PR. “Mr Beast donates thousands of turkeys for thanksgiving!” - all of the them brought to you by [company], because they really care about you, for realsies!
And, according to some videos, most of his challenges are setup for a specific person to win.
And also makes videos comparing luxury yachts, so, yaknow.
Yeah that seems like a smart business model. Something about his style makes this work… I don’t think most people could pull it off.
Some rich guy that makes YouTube videos to make profit off of his philanthropist tax write offs
“Philanthropic”
Is it really philanthropy if you make fucking BANK doing it? I don’t think philanthropy goes hand in hand with self enrichment and the glorification of consumerism
I’m pretty sure he’s losing money on a lot of his videos.
Just another rich cunt famous for having money. You are better off
My brain keeps mis-reading his name as MrBean.
If anything could save X it’d be MrBean exclusives.
Me too. I wish I didn’t check it tho, the guy has the biggest punchable face I have ever witnessed.
an annoying dude with the most punchable face in existence
agreed
Ah. So that’s what he smells like.
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You’ve never heard a positive word about Mr. Beast / Jimmy? I have, quite a lot actually. Maybe you don’t watch the people who interact with him more, idk. He seems like a nice guy who uses his videos to generate revenue that he immediately puts back into making more videos. Like, almost all of it if I understand correctly. All while helping tons of people in the process.
Also, Musk is desperate for Jimmy’s attention lol. He asked Mr. Beast in a tweet recently why he doesn’t upload his videos on X and basically got the answer “It’s not worth it” lol
He was on Lex Friedman’s podcast a while back. Honestly he seemed like a smart guy but I came away feeling like he was pretty cynical about the whole thing. It really did just feel like a neurotically trained intuition about boosting view metrics.
He did seem like a decent dude I guess. Its hard to tell from those kind of things.
Yeah, fair enough. Who knows, maybe I’ll be eating my words sometime in the future.
Meh, I’ve never watched a video of his, but seems like it’s just a modern day game show/home makeover/dystopian feel-good story sort of thing. Neither good or bad. It’s good that he helps some people, bad that the people and many, many more need help.
I agree that it sucks that we need people to help pick up the slack in our social nets and whatnot, but I think it’s unfair that people attack Mr beast for using that YouTube money to help people to make more YouTube money to help more people. Loads of these youtubers rake in more and do jack with it but never face any individual flak, but he does something different and he becomes the poster boy of evil youtuber to people.
FWIW Beast Philanthropy is a registered 501c3, feeds like over half of NC, and has done alot of disaster relief work in a bunch of states and a handful of countries. I don’t think it’s evil that they shoot some footage in the process and a quick ad read to feed 100% of the revenue from the philanthropy channel back into the 501c3.
Disclaimer: I don’t really watch Mr. Beast all that much.
Mr. Beast’s origin story (apparently) is that he went all in on Bitcoin really early, like so early that when it blew up he became a multi-millionaire (we don’t actually know exactly how much money he got, it could be a lot, it seems like a fuck ton).
By some grace of God he had a really good influence and decided to use that money for charity, creating a YouTube channel to film that charity and make some money back on his endeavors. He talks a lot now about how he makes so much off of YouTube videos that he can often just break even on the crazy prizes he gives out based on the views he gets.
Now based on this it seems pretty chill. Mr. Beast made a fuckload of money and is working within the system of capitalism to give it back to some of the most needy (I mean he’s done stuff like traveled to Africa to help install water wells in tiny remote villages, say whatever you want but that’s good charity.)
The problem is, as other people in this thread pointed out Mr. Beast has done a ton of podcasts talking about his work and it’s pretty clear that he actually thinks that this is how the system is supposed to work, that the only issue is that more rich people aren’t giving away their money like he is and if that happened the system would be working perfectly. That’s a stupid take, and as I mentioned before, I think he only became this charitable as a fluke, he’s an exception to the rule.
Now I’ll defend him: I think that Mr. Beast gets a lot more hate than he deserves. He’s one of the very few rich people who is truly giving away most of his money to other people (sure, lots of his videos are him giving away money to middle-american white people but that doesn’t even matter that much) he gets hate because he places himself in the spotlight the “controversy around every video” that you point to is a product of this. It’s part of the production and only makes him more famous. Mr. Beast is only a symptom of a disease and directing hate towards him is only done because it’s easy.
Like I said earlier, he’s an exception to the rule, and the rule is that people this rich don’t engage in any charity nearly this much. It’s bizarre that people focus on the one rich person doing that. Oh wait, it’s not, it’s just a bunch of lugheads falling for the American celebrity worship/attention culture but in reverse.
Rich people engaging in charity are just washing their own image. Under the current system, there’s no way to be rich without exploiting the poor. That’s just how the system works. No amount of charity will change that.
He literally just explained a way that MrBeast got extremely rich without exploiting the poor. He got into Bitcoin super early, and cashed out at a peak, becoming a multimillionaire overnight. No poor exploitation at all there.
As the OP, I’d like to mention here that I never said or thought that Bitcoin involves no poor exploitation.
Except for the faceless idiots that bought in during one of those peaks and left with big debts. Otherwise, no exploitation anywhere!
My issue with the hate he gets is he seems to get raked over the coals more than people giving away nothing because he’s “exploiting” people to fund it. Im just so sick of people jumping on even slight improvement over the status quo because they expect perfection from anybody trying to do any good. Theres a reason everything is being enshittified. Theres no reason people benefitting from the system have to even slightly improve it because every idealist who probably hasn’t done shit to improve the world will be there waggling their finger.
Effective altruism.
Look, I hate youtubers more than anybody I know, but if someone was impersonating this guy to prank some kid he’s never met I don’t see how we can expect him to apologize for something he didn’t know about and wasn’t involved in.
And now Elon Musk wants him on X. Keep in mind that Elon Musk is openly repelled by those he cannot manipulate, including anyone with working conscience who is disgusted by the kind of propagandistic hatred X serves up on the regular, and Musk tirades against that kind of ethical “wokeness” regularly. Yet he loves Mr. Beast enough to run Beast content (for free? as an ad?) to get Mr. Beast onto his platform. That’s not the kind of recommendation decent people get from Musk.
Excellent write-up. This paragraph especially speaks volumes. Honestly, it’s an angle I hadn’t even considered, but when faced with it, yeah, exactly! How the hell does Mr. Beast not get the same “wokeness” critique as other people when it comes to Musk??
Musk is just a suck-up. Also, Mr. Beast doesn’t really do anything he could clown on, and he’s well connected. It would make Musk’s reputation worse than it already is.
But, he’s trying to manipulate him by inflating view counts? Also, pretty sure musk wants him because he’s a huge creator and it would be good for twitter, not because he can sense he’s bad or whatever. I don’t really care about Mr Beast, never watched his videos, but I’ve heard much more good about him than bad.
OMG, thank you! I’ve been saying for years that something is not right about him but I can’t pinpoint why. We will see with time, I guess!
Mr. Beast is never off. I’ve never seen a candid picture of him. He’s probably clean, but something’s very fake about him.
The first project I heard of his was “#TeamSeas”. Which collects donations to dredge trash out of the ocean. Except realistically, that trash is constantly getting replenished. The efforts should have been to reduce plastic waste, either by promoting less consumption or switching all drink bottles to recyclable aluminum. Neither of those look as good on camera as a specialized ship pulling trash out of the ocean and promoting anti consumption probably wouldn’t sit well either his audience or sponsors.
His viewers mainly consist of people who want to feel charitable vicariously or people fantasizing about about being on the reviving end of his charity. It’s not much different from the people who watch Life Styles of the Rich and Famous.
I don’t think that’s the right perspective to have on this, a good action isn’t bad just because It wasn’t the best action possible.
And the solution you brought upon, would still leave the first problem afloat, “great, we reduced plastic consumption, but who’s going to remove the plastic that is already in there?”, It’s a paradox you see? If he chooses option A, people will burn him at the stake because he didn’t choose option B.
I was skeptical at first when I first got aware of him, then I did some research and there’s a ton of philanthropy there, lots of people got some help they needed.
EVEN if it’s done with ulterior motives, the non changing fact is that people indeed were helped.
Whichever motives he has behind his persona, he has helped more people than most could or would’ve helped in their entire lifetimes.
I would follow on from you by saying removing plastic is the better of the options anyway. Good old free will means you can’t force people to choose to use less plastic and alternatives, but you can force yourself to go and do something about it - we can’t even make them use a bloody rubbish bin.
I mean, how would you even go about it? Lobby governments against organizations with much bigger pockets, advertising campaigns to tell us what we already know, start a political party?? Cleaning beaches already showed what we as people are doing and what we can do.
Dredging the ocean can come after we stop putting trash in it. There’s a finite amount of resources for these activities and they should be first directed to the most effective solutions first. He apparently thinks he has enough influence on his audience to direct them to clean up his chocolate bar displays.
Dredging the ocean can come after we stop putting trash in it.
It must be both simultaneously. You don’t ignore a patient with a gunshot wound by telling everyone, “Ignore the dying man until we ban guns!”
I’m sick of metaphors.
By TeamSeas account, they’ve removed 9,286 metric tons of garbage from the ocean since 2021. We collectively put 11,000,000 metric tons into the ocean every year. The Teamseas method of removing one pound of trash for every dollar would require 250 million USD every year. That’s not sustainable for a charity to run on indefinitely.
We should be switching to biodegradable paper or recyclable aluminum. I’ll have to look closer the next time I’m in a convenience store, but it looks like MrBeast’s chocolate bars are packaged in plastic. We already know how to package chocolate in paper.
Except realistically, that trash is constantly getting replenished
I don’t watch Mr Beast but he’s trying to help unlike everyone else. Yes we should stop dumping plastic in the ocean. But removing what is already there is useful just like cleaning trash on the beach is useful. You don’t walk past litter and say, “No point in picking it up, someone else will just throw more.”
There are many non profit ocean cleanup organizations.
Except, at least where I am, there’s social stigma against littering, so the first problem has been solved. Picking up a bit of litter every now and then is sustainable.
Same here. I always found the fandom and the whole concept suspect AF.
Mr Beast is a fascist
I feel like MrBeast is smarter than this.
Smart enough to show support for his trans staff member while also being friends with someone who would deny every trans person their human rights?
He’s a fucking piece of shit speaking out of both sides of his mouth.
You can’t support Kris and be friends with the likes of Elon Musk.
He’s not smarter than this, he’s fucking greedy just like Musk.
Where in the article does it say anything about their being friends?
It doesn’t say it in the article, but Mr. Beast’s friendship with Musk is well documented.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-and-mrbeasts-complicated-friendship-timeline-2024-1
Over the following months and years, Donaldson and Musk exchanged messages on X (Twitter back then). Donaldson said several times that he admired Musk.
In one tweet, he said he had been reading “Elon Musk: Tesla, SpaceX, and the Quest for a Fantastic Future” by Ashlee Vance.
“I’m about to finish this book and I want you to know that I respect the hell out of you,” he wrote on February 11, 2020. “Ever since I started learning about your work ethic and passion I’ve been more motivated than ever to make a difference. I look up to you.”
Donaldson also tweeted messages of support about Musk’s developments at Tesla, and said he would be tuning in when Musk hosted “Saturday Night Live” on May 8, 2021.
On February 27, 2022, Musk tweeted asking why the “traditional” media was “such a relentless hatestream.”
“Bro I could literally feed a million people and they wouldn’t care in the slightest,” Donaldson replied. “But the second I slip up and do something wrong they’ll pounce all over it lmao.”
Musk then cryptically tweeted out: “If I die under mysterious circumstances, it’s been nice knowin ya.”
Donaldson replied: “If that happens can I have Twitter.”
Musk responded with a simple, “Ok.”
“Jokes aside, be safe!” Donaldson said. “I wuv u.”
Yeah Mr. Beast doesn’t actually respect Kris, if this is how he talks to Musk. You don’t call him “bro” and not mean it.
Thanks, good to know
Isn’t one of Mr. Beast’s friends or employees trans? He’s shown open support for them too. He has a vested interest in not associating with Elon.
He’s got vested interest in gargling Musk’s balls.
“I’m about to finish this book and I want you to know that I respect the hell out of you,” he wrote on February 11, 2020. “Ever since I started learning about your work ethic and passion I’ve been more motivated than ever to make a difference. I look up to you.”
To note, 2020 was a couple years after Musk called the cave diver that saved kids a pedo.
That was the moment that all rational people figured out he was a complete asshat. Mr. Beast didn’t.
In my view, it means Mr. Beast doesn’t actually respect Kris very much, to keep being this buddy-buddy with Musk.
I mean Musk wasn’t as loud about his bigotry at that point, not in the way he is now at least, and Mr Beast has been openly supportive of trans people. Being a bit of an idiot and being a raging bigot aren’t the same thing, and that incident mostly convinced people that Elon was an idiot. It’s entirely possible he’s changed his mind about Musk in 3 years. I’m not a Mr Beast fan by any means, I don’t watch his content or anything and tbh I found his reaction to the Jacksepticeye thing to be annoying which hasn’t endeared him to me, so I don’t have any skin in the game on his end of things, but there were a lot of people who didn’t hate Elon after the cave diving thing who do hate him now so I wouldn’t really treat that post as gospel personally. A lot of people don’t want to admit it but Elon used to have way better PR than he does now, and a lot of people have changed their minds about him over time. So atm I don’t see any reason to believe that Mr. Beast would revoke his support for trans people for Musk. His support of trans people is more recent as well. Maybe I’m wrong but I’d rather be optimistic about it until he gives me reason not to be.
He probably just didn’t know about how shit of a person he was. In 2020 everyone loved musk, me included, mostly just because most people didn’t dig deep into what type of person he was. I want to give Mr beast the benefit of the doubt here because I don’t think he’s an innately bad person like Elon is.
In 2020 I had nothing but contempt for Musk, and I had a long list of reasons for it at the time. I’m sorry you were late to the party, but he showed his true colors long before 2020.
To note, 2020 was a couple years after Musk called the cave diver that saved kids a pedo.
That was the moment that all rational people figured out he was a complete asshat. Mr. Beast didn’t.
Just quoting myself here for good measure. *shrugs
Like I said, most people didn’t know that.
Yeah and I’m of the opinion that it was pretty widely covered at the time, and a lot of people figured it out, so I don’t buy that “most” didn’t know it.
That was the time he was the most popular. Everyone’s was in love with him and though he was the real life tony stark at that point. I hadn’t even heard of the fact he called the rescuer a pedo until s couple months ago (way after I realised he was a dick). To be fair, this is all anecdotal, but many people didn’t know and I want to give Mr beast the benefit of the doubt. Not to add this was three years ago before all of the other bad stuff he said.
I don’t know much about him but from what I know he seems like the kind of guy who would put money above all. I’m guessing as long as he thinks he can benefit from Musk it doesn’t matter if his friend or employee is trans.
i want to throat punch him
I like the way you think sir
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It’s a shame that your first thought is for physical violence. You must be quite emotionally immature.
Edit: I guess this is just a joke that went over my head
What a lovely young man!
Why waste any more calories when violence and murder is so effective? I’m getting paid slave wages out here, brother on a budget
How many people have you murdered so far?
With these rhymes? Millions cuz. With this dick? 0. :(
If MrBeast leaves YouTube I will consider that a win. I am so tired of see his gaping jaw open on my front page for his stupid stunts and his stupid candybars.
HE’LL BE BACK, THEY ALWAYS COME BACK
You know you can set channels to “not interested” and “don’t recommend channel”, right?
It’s not permanent, even if you click on “don’t recommend channel”. After a while, YouTube will ignore your choice and show it to you again if it feels like it.
We’re clearly doing something different because I never get Mr Beats recommend.
It’s based on your viewing history.
You can run a little experiment to verify this if you want. Take some subject you usually watch and take some channel your have interest in (and you will keep watching similar videos). Set that channel as “don’t recommend channel”. After a while (never calculated how long), you’ll get recommendations of that channel again.
I also don’t get Mr Beast recommendation as I don’t watch similar content, but there are channels I need to keep blocking since I like the subject but not those channels in particular.
I was mostly just saying that the “don’t recommend channel” approach is not a solution for everyone.
He has done more for charity and general philanthropy than you ever will.
Self-promotion is not charity. And neither is putty porn. It’s just the cost of doing business when you’re your own brand. And philanthropy is a scam promoted by the rich to help justify their wealth hoarding.
All of it ultimately ends up personally furthering the rich person’s personal goals. It’s all just a way of saying that the rich deserve to determine what society goals should be, and how society should use its limited resources.
It’s taking control away from the masses, and keeping it in the hands of those with money.
id love to punch them both in the face really really hard
Good Job Caveman!
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Mr Beast is the AntiChrist gog and magog. I hate him with the passion of a thousand Hiroshimas. His corpse face splattered all over youtube triggers an uncanny valley effect on me. A repulsive simulacra, a predator animal disguised as a human.
You need to get out more, mate.
I recently told a Tesla recruiter I won’t work for musk
Beautiful. More people need to do this with more shitty companies than just Tesla.
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And this is why articles should be using screenshots and not links to tweets.
I wonder how well connected and rich Elon is to insulate him from consequences. Many people who have done as idiotic mistakes as he did have gone bankrupt or have been shunned already.
He’s not insulated. He has likely lost control of Tesla because he had to sell so many shares to buy Twitter. He’s trying to get more shares in Tesla but they’re probably not going to give him it.
