So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

  • switcheroo@lemmy.world
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    23 days ago

    No country should be dealing with the US right now. Cut this country the fuck off.

    Do not allow Preznit Fuckwit or any of his cronies in your country. Threaten with imprisonment since he is a disgusting multi-time felon who is also a pedo and a rapist. No decent country should let that type of thing step foot there.

    Sanction. Do not buy American ANYTHING. The fucking morons who voted for this shit need to hurt. Im talking destitute. They need to have zero choice but to point their dirty finger at the source of their misery and accept that he is a con-- a fucking con!!-- and that their own stupidity is why they are not scraping by.

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    23 days ago

    Hot take, this was a way better outcome than carpet bombing Baghdad had. Objectively bad of course, but maybe the US military has actually learned something. I’d argue that Trump is a figurehead for the MIC, and it is telling that they have behaved with relative restraint (relative to Gaza and Ukraine for instance). If he was calling the shots for real how would this have gone down? It’s been obvious since the Nobel prizes that there was a western consensus on regime change in Venezuela. It’s directly related to Ukraine. This is a demonstration that the US military is far more capable than Russia’s, and a message directly to Putin and simultaneously any sub-peer nation considering alignment with Russia or China.

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    23 days ago

    The world has to hold us accountable. Sanction us. Make it hurt.

    Americans aren’t the only ones being “cowards” in all of this, as Europeans online love to throw around these days.

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    24 days ago

    My best guess is mass riots/civil war. The main reasons why it’s not happening yet are because Trump still has a good number of supporters and because Americans are - rightfully - afraid of their police (or soldiers) killing them.

    Trump is steadily losing his supporters every week, and the number of people at risk of dying due to lack of food or healthcare is increasing. If your life is at serious risk anyway, might as well get a shot at a revolution. And the more people willing to do it with you, the better the chances.

    However, I’m not sure how realistic this scenario is. I’m concerned that a change of government for a slightly better one may be enough for most Americans to calm down. After all, they’re very much used to being abused by their elites, whether they realize it or not.

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    25 days ago

    My take is that US is already on massive decline. I’m not an american but I am a big fan of US and I’ve never seen US this weak even if you ignore how ugly it is under current leadership. I honestly don’t know how US will ever recover from this trump presidency and it seems like nothing but down hill from here. It’ll time for geopolitics to catch up with reality but US will never been as strong as it was 10 years ago.

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    25 days ago

    At this point, every single country should be embargoing the US. It’s well past that point that we cut them off from the world stage entirely economically.

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    Invading or pissing off Japan, China or Canada. All of whom own a sizable amount of the US national debt. Any one of whom can dump said debt and cause a default on the US debt causing hyperinflation. With hyperinflation, they can’t pay for their military and thus are dead in the water.

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    For them miserable fucks to vote for the Democrat candidate.

    For China to stop being a fucking asshole and start being a world leader instead. They would be handed the title so easily if they just did the bare minimum of a civilized country.

    1. Recognize Taiwan and start actually advancing a rules based world.
    2. Stop flooding the world with cheap state-subsidized junk.

    Those things are literally all they would need to do. We would drop USA like a sack of rotten potatoes.

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    Realistically, global trade drying up. Canada, Mexico, the EU, and others just refusing to do business with the US. Or possibly, making deals on a state-by-state basis, such as exchanging with California and New York, while ignoring Texas. By doing something like that, foreign nations can help prop up anti-conservative states, while bleeding conservatives lily white.

    Mutual military agreements, such as retooling NATO to exclude the US and incorporating Canada, Mexico, and Taiwan might happen as well. The US has ceded their mutual exchange with Taiwan, other powers like India would like to have those chips. Maybe the EU outright allying with Ukraine, to remove Russia from play and to secure Ukraine’s grain, oil, and expertise on warfare.

    …In short, it would be a couple decades of work to stop the Turdpublican agenda through diplomatic pressure. Probably around a decade if WW3 or a 2nd American Civil War happens.

  • USAmericans have shown a complete inability to rise up against their government. This is not surprising given our crushing economic system, the fragility of our lives, and cultural landscape of the USA. At this point I believe Resistance has to come from outside the USA. This is unlikely due to the USA’s extensive nuclear arsenal.

    I foresee the USA going the way of China and Russia, steadily oppressing its people, enriching its oligarchs, and occasionally creating problems for the world. Greenland may very well be the USA’s version of China constantly threatening to seize Taiwan.