• Gathorall@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      No individual is that stupid. They’re just evil bigots too cowardly to but their bigotry on their own conscience so they seek other bigots that provide a fantasy and community where their bigotry is a virtue.

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        14 days ago

        People aren’t just born this way. They’re indoctrinated.

        It’s not a question of stupidity, it’s an issue of perspective. It’s the same way you have Texas grade school bludgeon “Mexico tyrannized Texas but now we’re free” into each subsequent generation of kids as part of the Texas History curriculum. You raise generations of Floridians by telling them over and over and over again that Cuba is the Bad Place run by the Bad People and its your duty to liberate them by any means necessary. It doesn’t work on everybody, but it inevitably cements this reflexive fear in somebody.

        And then you sift these radicals off the pool with police/military recruitment, religious clubs and mission trips, political organizations and anti-communist business communities, and a dozen other state-sponsored organizing groups. In the same way you make an atom bomb - by sifting and compressing the most radioactive isotopes of uranium - you can make Miami Cuban radicalism.

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          14 days ago

          Do you apply the same lack of agency to everyone or just reactionary proles?

          If you dig far enough, nothing is technically anyone’s fault and free will is an illusion. Even the self deluding centrists, unhinged millionaire libertarians, and ineffectual gay liberals that I know you despise ultimately are just following their programming.

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            14 days ago

            If you dig far enough, nothing is technically anyone’s fault

            This is the nut of it. Social problems are systemic not individualistic and need to be solved systemically.

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              14 days ago

              Making excuses for them will prevent any systemic solutions.

              Everything your saying is just as true for sexual predators. We don’t allow them to roam freely just because it’s not their fault because locking them away doesn’t solve the underlying systmetic problem.

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              13 days ago

              Unless they’re a billionaire? Insurance Executive? Or if they’re a CIA spook? Or a White Supremacist internet influencer?

              Don’t get me wrong, in so far that a person can be “evil”, those people are. (And technically, good can come from them dying, it depends on the context, free Luigi & Tyler) I just see a lack of consistency, because for me, the impoverished/foreign bigot is also just as “evil”, they just lack the power to enact it.

              (And evil doesn’t exist in the same way that divine good also doesn’t)