This is my repost of my previous post here. My question WASN’T actually clear enough, so I had to add “United States presidential” to the title. That said, I’ll start by saying I’d vote for Governor of Kentucky Andy Beshear.
I’ll vote for the candidate that I think is going to do the most to advance the policy goals I’d like. Right now that happens to be the opposite of everything the GoP is doing, and half of what the Dems are doing.
Who’s in charge of the Communist party these days?
I would vote for whichever candidate that has firm, unflinching, support for Trans, NB and GNC people. Someone who will rescind every EO (with special focus on anti-LGBT orders), return our dignity and sense of belonging, and vow to veto any and all anti-LGBTQ+ pieces of legislation.
This is of course in addition to abolishing ICE.
Fat chance of either, unfortunately.
You only have two options. And this is first past the post voting, so you’re not really voting for anybody. You’re voting against the worst candidate.
So given that, which party would you vote against?
Oh and by the way there will be an election in 2028
It’s been only one year of Trump and I’m not sure of that.
I have the baseless theory that ICE is only an excuse to hire and arm like mined individuals that will fight and kill to protect Trump the day he announces no more elections.
Do you think that there will be no elections in 2028?
I’m not sure there will be is what I said.
Hope springs eternal!
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Sharp Guillotine (they/them) and their running mate Three-in-one Oil
Any politician that has put their own safety on the line. I don’t care if they ratiod Trump on truth social or even took him to court. People with far less privilege are showing up on the front lines to demand accountability, we should expect nothing less from our leaders.
JB Pritzker I just think he would be a solid candidate
Never republican. Prior to that, whichever Democrat says they will reign hell fire.
Disbanding ICE, disbanding TSA, slashing CBP, cutting military 75+%, expanding the supreme court by 10+ seats, expanding DOJ for all the criminal prosecurions, forcing better vote methodologies, forcing a constitutional convention (new branches of government, independent DOJ, independent science research, independent health), encouraging new states (DC, Guam, Puerto Rico) to join the union to fix Senate proportions, remove electoral college, add in mechanisms for national no-confidence votes, healthcare as a right, etc. There’s a lot more heh.
How about using that constitutional convention to turn the US into a socialist republic (or a “Cooperative Republic”)?
I’d do more than that
Disband DHS. This agency was never required and was created merely as a knee-jerk to the information sharing problems that contributed to how 9/11 turned out.
Ironically, the majority of those problems were actually between the FBI and CIA and DHS has no authority over either — that role was handled to the also-newly-created Director of National Intelligence (DNI)
Sooooo we never needed the orwellian DHS in the first place
Abolish ICE, HSI and CBP*. The the other constituent agencies carry on as they did before 9/11 and leave the LE/intelligence coordination to the DNI
*Some folks would love to see ATF go, others want the end of TSA
You would actually trust a Democrat that came forward like that? We can even get them to commit not being assholes.
Not Republican is the only qualifier if you’re a sane person.
That tactic hasn’t worked very well for the DNC, their only policy for the last 10 years is we are not Trump, despite every other indicator showing that they are.
their only policy for the last 10 years is we are not Trump, despite every other indicator showing that they are.
Criticize the Dems. I’m not saying they don’t deserve it.
But that statement is irresponsible. Dangerous even.
The last time Dems were in power American citizens weren’t being executed in the streets in broad daylight by an immigration agency 1300 miles from the southern border. The last Dem president wasn’t sending a Gestapo into American cities to terrorize American citizens to instigate pushback so he could cancel elections. The last Dem president didn’t corruptly use the National Guard to take over Washington DC. The last Dem president didn’t instruct his DOJ to openly defy the law.
I can’t believe this continues to need to be repeated but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
Democrats were helping build the infrastructure and creating the tools necessary for trump to take these actions. While you were at brunch Biden increased ice funding to the highest level they’ve ever received, he boosted detention center construction, he helped local police build cop cities. Bill Clinton’s expedited removal allowed immigrants be denied due process, a measure Obama used on 75% of those he deported. Obama/Biden built the cages trump kept kids in. ICE is collecting a database of faces of protesters to be cataloged and maintained by Palentir, who Democrats have a very cozy relationship with.
In just a few days Schumer will help muster the votes needed to boost ICE funding again.
No matter how many times you want to shout it, they are the same.
great, go vote for the greater of two evils and tell me how well that goes for you. Oh wait, we’ve seen what happens then
50 years of liberal ‘lesser evil’ has led to where we are right now. A small acceptable evil allows a slightly larger one the next time.
Your incrementalism gave us incremental fascism.
So you’re blaming Dems being weak for Republicans being fascist?
Next are you going to blame the rape victim for not fighting back hard enough?
Dems haven’t done enough. That doesn’t mean they made this all happen. Republicans made this happen. Period.
Fascism doesn’t happen in a vacuum. Historically every time it’s raised its head it’s been with the complicity of liberals.
Claiming that Dems are not strong enough to fight back Republicans is not an effective argument to support them. That’s a reason to refuse to support them
50 years of liberal ‘lesser evil’ has led to where we are right now.
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they didn’t have 50 years of “lesser evil”. It’s been a mix, also, the 3 government branches have been in different hands throughout
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the Dems implemented progressive policies throughout
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the dems are not a “lesser evil” they are an “imperfect ok”
They’ve actually been sprouting lesser evil bullshit for over a century. There is no shade of fascism that’s imperfect ok
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Not Republican isn’t enough though.
We can’t have a repeat of a bunch of bumbling dipshits voting for non-viable 3rd party candidates that literally cannot win or not voting at all.
I will be voting for whatever Dem candidate is on the ticket. Because I’m tired of feds infringing on our rights and executing American citizens in the streets and the most likely way to make that stop is by voting for whatever Democrat is on the ticket.
Getting rid of the TSA would be such a helpful step forward better air travel.
Most countries’ airport security is to some extent modelled after the TSA, and was done in lockstep with the US increasing “travel safety” via invasive processes. Obviously it is toned back A LOT, but if the US were to get rid of the TSA and provide more lax regulations on air travel, most international countries would follow.
How so?
I fly enough to hit “gold” status on major airlines, and have seen the transition from the shit-show that was TSA initially into a universally smooth and fast process.
I think a lot of people don’t truly know the chaos that was pre-TSA screening. Do you recall being stuck in an aircraft at the gate, because the airline had to unload luggage for a passenger that hadn’t boarded?
For a long time after 9/11 the only airport operating smoothly was DCA (Congress uses DCA)
But for the last dozen or more years, things have only gotten smoother, everywhere.
I passed through JFK screening in less than 22 minutes a few weeks ago.
Must be nice to have tsa pre-screened status.
That’s because you’re US-centric still.
Other countries, interestingly, didn’t have all these issues prior to TSA hardening the screening process post-9/11.
All those countries and airports, however, upped their processes when the US did, making air travel a chore instead of a good experience.
Obviously I am US-centric. This is a thread about voting in US elections (??)
I do happen to fly to UK, and generally to LBA or MAN, which are easily two of the worst / most annoying airports in Europe.
Both of them have made great improvements over the past ~18 months though.
CDG is also particularly annoying imo.
I literally specified that the changes in TSA will affect airports “in other countries”.
Barfing in that pre-TSA the US air travel market was a shitshow contributed nothing to the discussion of how introducing the TSA and their stringent, invasive procedures fucked up air travel for other countries. Which, again, I very clearly specified.
To quote Jeopardy host Ken Jennings,
The “prosecute the former regime at every level” candidate has my vote in 2028.
Since we’re stuck with the two parties at the moment it’ll need to be a Democrat.
Mark Kelly has mentioned interest and seems to be willing to fight back, so I’m leaning towards him at the moment.
But it’s early so I’m open to candidates who meet the first requirement.
Same answer: Nobody
🏴That’s why Trump won last time. People like you. Disgusting.
Trump won last time because the party you are defending decided to run a senile POS that chose to court the right wing vote while throwing the marginalized communities they claim to support under the bus.
Leftists told Democrats this is exactly what was gonna happen when they backed Biden in 2020.
Yes, people that expect better. We’re the problem. You caught us. Good job.
Expectations achieve nothing. Actions do.
What are going to do, aside from nothing?
Found the dipshit that thinks not voting leads to something better.
I vote plenty. What I don’t do is vote for the lesser evil. An empty ballot is better than one that makes things worse.
Your faction of capital lost because they couldn’t stop fucking genociding Palestinians, campaigning with the fucking Cheneys, and they couldn’t even be fucking arsed to lie about a concept of a better future to a population so fucking servile than they would have forgotten about everything else if even offered the tiniest amount of mercy in domestic affairs, it was always ‘let’s go back to normal like Trump never happened, like the Gaza genocide never happened, like COVID-19 and Biden’s homicidal return to “normalcy” never happened, and like Kamala didn’t literally promise that there would be no fucking daylight between her and Biden’.
And turbo fuck you for trying to claim the moral high ground or even a harm-reduction position when the candidate you want me to fucking vote for did a genocide and supported stronger ICE, police, and military. Just fuck you and fuck everything you care about, and I hope all your nightmares come to life forever you capitalist-supporting liberal shit stain.
Based on your down votes they will gladly repeat the same steps that caused them to lose 2 elections to a carnival barker in future elections. Their arrogant hubris prevents progress and of course their failures are everyone else’s fault.
I like that you think Americans allowing a carnival barker (rapist, felon, pedophile, insurrectionist) to become president, twice, is the Dem’s/liberal’s fault.
My child, that shit falls squarely on Americans.
It’s not like these were confusing elections. Dems should have been able to run a fucking goldfish and win. Because Americans should have seen the clear and present danger the Republican party and their pedophile leader posed. But they didn’t. Because Americans are dumb and the majority of the blame falls on them.
Because many were stupid enough to vote for 3rd party candidates that literally could not win, and even more chose to stay home like a bunch of dumbfuck little bitches.
Your party claimed he was a threat but did nothing to stop it. Their internal polling before the election showed Biden could NOT beat Trump, yet they refused to primary him. He had obvious issues with mental decline before 2020 but liberals kept insisting it was a stutter, until it was too late. Trump in 2016 and 2024 is a self inflicted wound by the DNC
Your party claimed he was a threat but did nothing to stop it.
You mean they didn’t make conservatives vote liberal or take every dipshit that voted 3rd party or didn’t vote back to school to give them a proper education?
They just chose not to primary the guy they knew couldn’t beat Trump. Then acted shocked when they lost.
Hands down the absolute dumbest comment I’ll read today, and the day isn’t even half over yet.
Just another dumbfuck crying about genocide on the other side of the planet while our own democracy collapses under a felon rapist pedophile who already had two impeachments and an insurrection under his belt when dumbfucks like you helped him get re-elected.
I could care less about your whiny bullshit. Your own nation’s wellbeing clearly isn’t of interest to you. Go fuck yourself.
P.S. How’s Palestine doing with Trump at the helm, dipshit?
Fucking pathetic loser.
Dont lash out at others because you made poor political decisions. Your party is gonna make the same mistakes they made in 2016 and 2024 again for 2028.
I will always and forever lash out at morons that vote 3rd party in presidential elections, or who choose not to vote at all. Especially when the alternative is a felon rapist pedophile traitor who made his intentions known before the election.
Your guy was a senile rapist pedo too
Oof. Censorship. Rare on Lemmy, but still present. Thanks for your hard work. You’re making a difference.
Could it be the same mod that threatened to censor my valid post on another sub with hundreds of upvotes because they have a little vendetta? Likely so, considering that mod is also a mod on this sub.
Found the anti-American, anti-democratic dipshit.
anti-American
Buddy I’ve been pasting
emojis, of course I’m anti-AmeriKKKan, and if you’re not anti-AmeriKKKa by this point then your morals are worse than worthless.anti-democratic
I oppose the (liberal) Democrats (big D) precisely because I support (direct anarchist) democracy (little D), and the Democrats do everything in their power to not foster democracy or even represent their constituents.
Like you haven’t found anything, I’ve been screaming it from the rooftop 😆
Pedro
Napoleon Dynamite reference?
Greta Thunberg
Not the GoP. Not the green party, at least with Stein still around. Not the dems after all their nonsense. So… I don’t know; we’ll have to see who runs. The “good” news for anyone disliking my selections is that the (heavily-Gerrymandered) district means my vote will almost certainly mean fuck all anyway (assuming they don’t come up with some bullshit to throw out overseas votes to begin with since I can’t really do anything about that).
Luigi
