• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Dear God, I knew he was the worst already,

    He cut off funding to Israel after their illegal attacks on Palestinians.

    And he thought the tax rates on the wealthiest should be higher than most modern Democrats do now.

    Still a total shitshow of a president. But “the worst” is a stretch. I mean shit, trump hasn’t been out of office 4 years yet. He was a lot worse than Reagan.

    If we’re only allowed to use trump as a comparison these days, Reagan wasn’t that bad

    But only comparing a president to trump isn’t logical.

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      Ronny “trickle down economics” Reagan thought taxes should be higher on wealthy folks? Are you insane? The top tax bracket went from 70% at the start of his presidency to 28% by the time he left office. What Democrat have you heard calling to drop the top tax rate below 28%?

      He was WORSE than “that bad”. Have you ever heard of something called the Iran Contra scandal?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–Contra_affair

      And oh, by the way, he didn’t defeat the USSR, Carter did. Funding the Taliban’s war against the Soviet’s started under his watch. Ronny just took credit for it.

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      Trump ignored covid, Reagan ignored and cheered on AIDS. So I guess that’s a bit of a wash. What did trump do equivalent to or worse than colluding with Iran to keep American hostages in order to win an election. And then go on to illegally sell weapons in circumvention of a US embargo to Iran and fund terrorists in South America. Then after being caught lying to Congress had his former VP pardon them both and Olly North.

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        Trump literally tried to overthrow our government and had nuclear weapons documents stored in an unlocked shed. And then there’s the Russian involvement in his campaign.

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          If by overthrow you mean riled up the gravy seals. Then sat back and did the one thing an incompetent narcicist is good at, stall. Then sure.

          Highest security documents in an unlocked bathroom? Again we’ve established that he is a selfish un-thinking narcissistic moron who is incompetent.

          If by Russian involvement you mean the fact that the Russians have always been involved regardless of trump. And have no strong ties to him in any way other than using him for the only thing a narcissistic moron is good for. A Chaos Agent. Then sure.

          I’m not saying Trump wasn’t a danger. He’s as dangerous as an epileptic willfully off their medication constantly carrying around a running chainsaw with them everywhere. Had Bush Nixon or Reagan attempted similar to what Trump tried. You can bet we wouldn’t be chuckling about how incompetent it was and how we luckily dodged a bullet. Especially not after the last time a bush was caught out in a coup plot that failed. It’s just a different kind of danger. Trump was more dangerous because of the people around him than because of himself. Every single one of them enabled his every narcissistic whim. Had it not been for them he would have universally been remembered as a joke.

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        Trump tried to extort Ukraine into manufacturing evidence against Biden, tried to break the postal system just to mess with absentee voting

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          Yup, all failed spectacularly. Despite his cruel selfishness, he never had a moment of competence approaching the focused malevolence of Reagan destroying the air traffic controller’s union.

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        8 months ago

        As much as Trump sucked, he didn’t ignore covid. He was the initial dude behind project lightspeed. I fully expect to be downvoted to hell for this.

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          Know what he did before that. Downplayed and ignored covid. Claiming it would be over in a week. That no one needed to take precautions. Only after his narcissism screwed things up so badly. We’re some lawmakers finally able to appeal to him and stroke his hubris enough to get him to go along with the light speed plan. And even then afterwards he did little to nothing to promote it.

          You are not being downvoted for mentioning that he had a part in Project light speed. But for misrepresenting his handling of the situation.

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            you’re not wrong. he also wanted people to stick lights up their asses and take horse pills. still, he didn’t ignore it completely and despite his silly shit managed to actually be helpful overall.

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      “He thought tax rates should be higher than most modern Democrats do now.”

      Holy shit, what a take. And, uh, why is it that modern Dems are at that point, again?

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      I don’t mean literally the worst as Trump absolutely holds that position. I meant it as a figure of speech in regard to how bad he was.

      I would argue Trump was only able to run because Reagan walked it out first.

      My point was on how remarkably and terrifyingly similar they were.