Discord cut ties with its age-verification partner after exposed code fueled federal-reporting concerns, months after a breach hit 70,000 users.

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    Funny part is everyone was already saying this when Discord mentioned age verification and Discord was acting like their heads were in the sand. It wasn’t until mass exodus and people canceling Nitro that they finally did something.

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    Well, I don’t believe you.

    Also, you should learn what trust is and how that works.

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      Trust isn’t on then now. They won’t learn what it means until the customer demonstrates what trust means. The trust is gone on our side so leave the platform. Rip the bandaid off. Get off social media. Get off shitty streaming services.

      Do it and do it now.

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        Got it, cancelling my Netflix now, that will show er… discord? Somehow.

        I get what you’re saying, but I also don’t pay for discord, so it’s not like they’ll care if I disappear.

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          Discord gets paid for user’s data and they just lost a ton of users. That’s why they are “cutting ties” with Persona.

          I suspect its more of a temporary reaction and they will reframe this age-verification and the related data collection and try again later.

          • lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world
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            This. People seem to think that if they don’t pay for a service or click on ads on social sites, then they aren’t contributing to the company’s revenue. They fail to realize that THEY themselves are the product being sold. The sites/services and the interactions people have on them are merely a byproduct of the business model which is selling people’s data. The only way to win is to not play.

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              Yes. I have a hard no for participating willingly in expansion of mass surveillance, censorship and propaganda.

              And that’s ultimately what this move supports. It was no surprise to find out all the shady aspects following the announcement, but I had already burned Discord out of my life the day they announced their genius idea.

              Its my enshittification red line. I will quit your product without hesitation and find another way. I will never go back

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          I believe it actually does matter. Every person using Discord brings their friends onto the platform. Users leaving will probably also lead to others in their bubble leaving/following to an alternative.

          So lots of people leaving has a bigger effect than just that set of users being absent. Even if you didn’t pay for Nitro, some of your friends might have and may stop now.

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          I think you’re missing the point. The idea isn’t that leaving Netflix would affect discord; but rather that we should tie an exodus from discord to the rest of the de-cloud movement.

          In other words, quitting discord won’t solve the root cause of why discord went to shit. The root cause are cartel-like cloud companies that are trying to gain leverage over society as large. The only way to reasonably solve it is to stop participating.

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    Yeah I’m sure they had absolutely no idea before. Because Peter Thiel such a trusted and reputable name, how could they possibly known that doing business with him would be negatively construed?

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    That’s cool, still leaving though.

    I ain’t submitting my ID to anyone over the internet.

    This is a place of anonymity, not for proclaiming from the rooftops who I am on here.

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    With guys like this you don’t need to find secret surveillance shit, you just need to assume it.

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          Yup, but some companies gotta learn the hard way that you can’t snake people like that and expect them to come back.

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        Tech CEOs don’t live in the same world as the rest of us. Maybe when the AI bubble pops they’ll finally realise that it might be good idea to have some actual humans working in the company C suite. Rather than repeatedly hiring from the same pod person pool of recycled MBA executives.

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    Oops, you caught us, we’re sorry! We promise not to do it again! (In the next 3-6 months, restrictions apply, refer to your EULA for details)

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      I saw a report earlier today that they’ve “postponed” the age verification due to public backlash. If they DO implement it, I’m gone.

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        • Company does new “bad” thing.
        • Thing gets media attention.
        • Company postpones/reassures.
        • Attention dies down.
        • Company rolls out thing more slowly over longer period of time.

        Not saying that’s what’s going to happen. Just keep that in mind and maybe use this time to explore some other options. That usually doesn’t hurt and if push comes to shove moving won’t be as painful.

        Generally if possible diversifying is usually a good thing no matter what.

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        You do realize they already get all your data and such right? Discord openly admitted that when theyr pr Department went out and said; “But hey! This won’t even matter to those who’ve had an account for several years. We already have enough data on you guys to verify your age!”

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      Why not today? They’ve already shown their true colours. That’s the bar they set=> EXPECT them to keep that bar there and lower it eventually.

      Show me an example of a big corporation that has backpedaled and then started acting wholesome from then on. You might find, maybe one or two for the time being.

      They are not your friends.

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      Smoke and mirrors mate. Hard agree though, it all goes into storage to weaponise later.

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        Bad thing is we’re not immune in Lemmy. Sometimes I wonder if my 900 security counter measures ever leak. I tried to go to a site to test it one time, but my features were so tight that I couldn’t even load the test page. At least it’s worth less to them than data off Facebook with some anonymity.

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      He already got it. That’s the only reason a company “backpedals”. Saying this shit is only to save face so no one leaves. You know, because we’re all stupid and believe everything rich people teal us.

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    Why create ties in the first place?

    Not sure if I should upvote people fixing a obvious, terrible problem that they created themselves.

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      If you really cared and could delete it without problem, it would have been deleted way earlier, no?

      I have a hard time believing people actually do these things.

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        Nah, it gave me 10 different things I had to do before deleting my account. Also, no. I have my limit and it crossed when they chose to implement facial ID. I am missing it still, I am looking for something to fill the open group discussion it had for me.

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          That’s the hard part really, finding a new group chat platform.

          My friends and I are switching to Matrix but finding a community there is gonna be a bit tough.

          We all become too dependent on Discord and now we’re paying the price when we try to leave.

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          The problem is how will you do for most services and websites? They have support on discord for the most part (especially for coding stuff, or games)

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        It was hard enough getting new contacts to install it and stay connected.

        Posted notices that I was shutting it down. Added links to a web page and a telegram channel.

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          I personally just pulled the plug. Whoever might have cared can msg me through any of the other accounts