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Switched from Motorola to a pixel for Grapheme. This is cool to learn!
Hell yeah. I use a Motorola so hopefully I can get back support.
GrapheneOS has strict requirements about hardware being secure enough, so if existing Motorola phones were secure enough then they’d already be supported. This is presumably about future devices that Motorola are going to build.
Hmmm this would have sounded interesting if it didn’t require releasing new phones. I don’t think Motorola is going to release their next phone within a $200-$300 price range. As it stands, this is marginally better than yet another “ponzi your VS funding on the privacy community” scheme.
What would be useful, if they now have a partnership going, would be to convince Motorola to release the relock keys / firmware fixes for the bootloaders of some models that are no longer in production but are affordable and useful in the secondhand market. In particular, models that see good support from eg.: Lineage. Much easier to start a road towards better privacy and freer systems if it’s feasible on hardware you already have, after all.
FUCK YEAH! LETS GOOO!
My moto g85 doesn’t have any custom roms yet. I just tried on Lineage OS old 8.1.0 rom for my moto Z and now I desperately want to do the same on my current phone. Lineage is what I hoped for but now Graphene? FUCK YEAH!
My jaw is on the floor
Called it.
same.
it’s about market share and money.
Kind of disappointing. My main issue with Graphene isn’t even that you have to use Pixels, necessarily. It’s that I think Pixel hardware sucks. Motorola isn’t really known for their hardware either at this point. So still good news, but if it’s just another midranger with Graphene pre installed, I’ll pass. Let me use it on other Chinese brands or even a Samsung (lol).
Motorola is sadly still owned by google. I still wish we had the Fairphone x Graphene combo tbh
Wikipedia says Google sold Motorola Mobility to Lenovo in 2014. The article also mentions that Motorola is owned by Lenovo.
I own a Razr, can confirm the Lenovo bootup screen.
nothing is confirmed here, chill with the high-fives
yay! i have a motorola phone hopefully i will be able to install grapheneOS on it some day. though for some stupid government/banking apps i’ll probably need a secondary, crappier phone with the usual spyware on it. i really hope that they make grapheneOS available for already purchased Motorola phones.
edit: from what i see it looks like it’s probably gonna be for newer devices, and that is very sad, as i’m only gonna buy a new phone in like 3 to 4 years. Anyway, at least motorola has pretty good hardware and ok prices. Wait, do newer motorola phones come with a headphone jack? my Moto G55 has a headphone jack.
https://keepandroidopen.org/ <- offtopic with the post, but i’m just leaving this here in case someone hasn’t seen it.
My 2021 Moto edge does not have a head phone jack.
My Motorola phone was released in 2024 and has a headphone jack, so maybe it’s just some of their models that don’t have them. I just looked up a more recent 2025 model (Moto G 5G) and it also has a 3.5mm jack, so it looks like Motorola will keep having headphone jacks, hopefully this is the case as I don’t like having to charge my headphones.
While exciting, Motorola is bottom of the barrel hardware and support, but you gotta start somewhere.
Anything but a mainstream brand!
Pixels are stupid for GOS since the HW is mid at best and overpriced. If you are buying a phone to flash it anyway, the decision should be made only on hardware (and ability to flash)
HW is mid at best and overpriced
GOS has strict security requirements and so far Pixels have been the only devices out there that both allow GOS installation and meet their security requirements. Simple as.
Personally apart from repairability, I see very little meaningful difference in phone hardware these days. And a series Pixels are very reasonably priced.
Motorola is a mainstream brand
Omgomgomg that’s amazing news!
Hell yes! Best smartphone I have had is my current Motorola, and it was surprisingly cheap too. Would love to put Graphene on it.
This is especially good news since Motorola makes some of the few phones with a headphone jack. I just hope that whatever phone they make isn’t some nearly 7" behemoth like their current line.
My large hands would probably be fine with a “nearly 7” behemoth" if it would go back to a 9:16 aspect ratio. I may even be able to appreciate a more ereader-like aspect ratio like 2:3, 3:4, or 4:5. I have just been fed up by the unnecessarily tall phones of the past decade.
At this point you HAVE to make it a 7" behemoth to get sales, but a lower-volume model with a smaller screen would be a great addition to the lineup. But I can’t imagine too many people buy them because Apple stopped making the Minis and they don’t usually stop making things that make them money. I actually loved my 13 mini. If this Motorola-GrapheneOS partnership ends up spawning a phone of that size (I do think a lot of privacy enthusiasts may also be smaller phone enthusiasts), I may finally go back to Android.
Xperia still sells. Mine is a bit over 5".
Edit: ok, sells not that good. Why? It often gets jealous glances in public transport. Fits nicely in your hand and pocket.
Xperia is massively overpriced, full of bloatware, trash software, 2 years of software updates, and they’re absolutely massive. And not just massive but like, insanely tall. Hard to believe they’re still around while LG has called it quits.
Oh, it’s only the Xperia 5 line then?
About the bloatware; rooted, removed, soon LineageOS on this one too. Same advice for phones as for PC: reinstall on a new device, factory OS is bloated with malware.
Well, I’m not even asking for a true “mini” phone at this point, because we both know that would be asking too much. I just would just be happy with something like a 5.5-5.7" phone with a resolution that isn’t insulting (looking at you Librem 5) and some halfway decent storage. If the Moto collab phone doesn’t end up being viable for me due to size or other factors, I’ll live. My current Pixel should be supported on GrapheneOS for a good while, so I can hold out. I’ve already moved to using a DAP for listening to music because I couldn’t get a decent phone with a headphone jack anymore. Maybe one of the linux phones will be viable as a daily driver by then.
I mean that IS mini. The iPhone 13 mini, considered a tiny phone by most people, had a 5.4" screen.
I of course remember thinking my 5.0" Moto G (2nd gen) was a huuuge ass slab compared to my previous phone lol
I’ll never forget carrying around my Galaxy Note 2 and this guy asked me if it played DVDs LOL
I got my Nexus One out the other day and it still booted. The screen is 3.7", it’s hilarious that it felt like a large phone at the time.
To be fair, the bezels were huge by today’s standards, and one of the main (non-Apple) competitors had a hardware keyboard below the screen. Just think how much more usable these old smaller phones would be, if we had the screen to body ratio of the Pixel 9a.
I actually don’t mind the bezel so much. If someone put out a Nexus One clone with modern hardware and an unlocked bootloader, I’d be first in line. That programmable trackball that was also an LED indicator was so cool.
I bought my current phone, a Motorola Moto G Stylus (2025), because I of its hardware support. It has E-SIM plus a physical SIM slot, SD card support, and a headphone jack. The one downside is not having any custom firmware builds available. I’m hoping that changes in the near future.
