Now imagine that it was a sedan doing a carpool. Fuck everyone who drives a truck to commute around town. Fuck everyone who thinks, I’ll buy a truck because I’ll be safer. I hope gasoline goes up to $15 per gallon and every truck driving piece of shit has to choose between eating or driving because of their moronic vehicle buying decision.
If it was a sedan doing a car pool they’d probably all have been decapitated… So him having a truck saved his life
Dunno what your argument is but it’s kinda insane
If you drive up the arse of a goddamn school bus with that much stopping distance you deserve to hurt only yourself, not the kids in the back of that bus.
No… a car doing a carpool instead of a bus.
They were talking about the bus. If the truck rear ended a sedan, not if a sedan rear ended a bus.
they’d probably all have been decapitated
If that’s a risk, do you not have underrun bars?
But also as someone else said they meant if it was a regular car instead of the bus, not the truck.
Sedan instead of a bus. I’m guessing you drive a truck to commute to an office job every day?
Just for that ignorance, on my next finance, I’m going to trade in my toyota and get a 2500 ram with a cummins. Cause fuck you.
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Look here bud, that’s not much of an insult. Seeing as how anyone can be a potential child murderer. Just as easily anyone can be a potential billionare, just as anyone could be a potential athlete or potential homeless person. Every one has potential to be what ever the fuck they want.
Wtf are you talking about? Lol. Buying a child killing machine is a conscious choice that also costs that person double or more on the purchase price, gasoline, tires, oil and other maintenance. You have to overlook all of that and still say, I don’t care that there’s no way I would see a child right in front of my truck. I’m still going to make a terrible financial decision because I’ll be more protected and more likely to kill someone else. I got mine!
Look here bud, that’s not much of an insult.
Jesus fucking Christ man. Take a look at yourself. You don’t think being called a child murderer is much of an insult. Fucking wow
Do you actually own a veichle? Or do you just pretend to know what you are talking about?
Nah, all you priks and your shit attitudes regarding pickup trucks is pissing me off. So instead of huffin and puffin, I’ll just get me a new truck. Because I can. Yall act like every pick up driver is 100% guaranteed to kill your kids/dogs/grandma’s the moment they leave the lot. Yall act like pick ups are these thirsty fuel guzzlers. Funny my loaded 2011 3500 cummins gets better fuel economy than my 2023 highlander with a 4cylinder. And I don’t even have to pay premium in the cummins. What else. O my truck insurance is $250 dollars less than toyota. And guess what quotes for new trucks are 150$ less… tires? Tire cost less because I can put on a set of LT rated tires they will last longer and can get better deals on them. My trucks have needed so little maintenance over the years that when I took the new car i was Hella unprepared for that headache.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/06/21/us/trucks-suv-pedestrian-crashes.html
Thought of you, you fucking monster 💩
Good read, regardless, fuck you with the best intentions. The left turn part is bullshit. Yes, the pillar is thick. But fuck man is the drivers neck broken? Like lean forward and/ lean left. A blind spot isn’t just over your shoulder. It wherever you don’t have a visual. Move your damn head, eliminate the blind spot. As for the truck hoods part. They say it’s to look meaner. No, that’s the job of the bumper, grill, and headlights. It is practical, if anything. Each model from 1/2 ton, 3/4ton, and 1 ton size have different engine and drivetrain configurations. Okay, with a cylinder turbo gas engine there is lots of empty space. But what about a big inline 6 diesel or even a Ford V8 powerstroke diesel? Now add room for a front axle for 4wd, and a 8spd 10spd transmission behind it for tighter EPA regs. What happened in 2007? Mandatory diesel particulate filters and regen systems and exhaust gas coolers had to be put in. Gota make room for that. Then, in 2009 , the DEF became mandatory. gota make room for all that as well. Look under the hood of a cummins dodge or even worse yet, ford power stroke. There is absolutely no space under the hood for anything. It’s jam-packed all the way to the top.
A simple solution would be a front camera that are on from stop to 50kmph amd you know not being a lazy fucking meat bag and moving your head around a few inches forward and to the left.
Side note everyone likes say “just buy a van for work” but vans have just as high of a hood
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I just asked a question but your response is pretty telling
Lol you didn’t even ask a question.
You told a bunch of people to fuck themselves.
pretty telling
Lmao
Well you’re responding to a thread that did have a question in it and then pointing at the original comment instead of the one with a question.
That being said, you’re still correct. If you drive a truck without a specific use that you use it for almost every day then go fuck yourself.
Is that clear now?
It will have a specific use every day. To drive my children around so they are safe.
Yeah, you’re right, children in smaller cars don’t deserve to live.
It’s more important for you to feel cool.
Well you’re responding to a thread that did have a question in it
No I’m not. There is no question in this thread.
Not unless you’ve edited one of your comments to add one after I made this comment.
Is that clear now?
Ok fine, now there’s one rhetorical question.
Nothing was ever unclear.
Trucks r bad grrr. I get ya brother.
Best to tell people to fuck themselves and see if they react calmly and rationally. If they don’t, be sure to act like it’s pretty telling.
Was referring to the question further down. Thought you were responding to that one not the main comment. My bad!
Yes, the people who are so rational and calm that they purchase vehicles specifically designed to kill toddlers and hurt other people when traffic accidents occur. Making a conscious decision to spend double or more on purchase price, gasoline, tires, oil and other maintenance just so they can say, fuck you I got mine. Rational and calm people who, when given the chance of a car crash only causing injuries to both parties, they’d prefer to kill the other people as long as they don’t get hurt. How dare I be mean to them!
Next time you see someone going out of their way to hurt others make sure to ask them kindly to stop. You wouldn’t want to be too assertive and make them upset. I can’t imagine anything worse. Well, maybe running over a toddler with a vehicle that was intentionally made to have less visibility than an Abrams tank. But that’s just me. At least certain people don’t need to worry about driving safely because they’re more protected than everyone else. Pretty good trade off, right?
Anybody that writes whole paragraphs ranting against straw men should go fuck themselves.
Truck or no truck, you can’t fix stupid.
And thus, for everybody’s safety, no truck.
That’s not a “full size” truck, that’s a pickup truck, like the article headline and the url say.
A full-size truck is defined by the automotive industry as a quarter-ton or heavier that remains roughly within the same body size as a quarter ton. They typically have higher payload ratings, accepting upwards of 2,000 lb in the bed, and also larger towing capacities, upwards of 10,000 lb.
So an F-150 is a full-sized truck. An F-350 is also that, but an F-450/550 is considered a heavy duty truck as it is markedly larger. But a Ram 1500 and 2500 are also full-sized trucks, as is the Chevy Silverado and the Toyota Tundra.
Conversely, the Ford Ranger is NOT a full-sized truck because it is physically smaller and cannot officially carry/tow that kind of a payload. Neither would the Toyota Tacoma or any of the Mazda B-series trucks.
So a Dodge Ram - as it appears in the video - is most definitely a “full sized truck” as defined by the automotive industry.
The full-size Ram 1500 pickup faces an uncertain future in 2007 as rising fuel prices and a shift to smaller cars threaten to curtail last year’s brisk sales momentum
Today I learned something new about pick up trucks. I’ll change my complaint to: that’s a dumb marketing term and there’s no need for the title of this post to be so different from the headline of the article.
That’s not a full sized truck. That’s some wankers oversized support vehicle
Needs a truck that big to fit his magnum dong
Perhaps the Sun was blinding his view.
Look at the shadow direction in the video.
That doesn’t explain why it happened.
What are the downvotes for? You actually know why this happened?
Look at the angle of the shadows in the video – the sun is behind the driver
That isn’t an explanation of why it happened.
If they couldn’t see well enough to see something as large as a bus, the correct response is to slow down, not plow through at the speed limit.
That doesn’t explain why the driver didn’t slow down.
The point is the fault is 100% on the truck driver regardless of how well they could see. If they could see, but didn’t brake, it’s their fault. If they couldn’t see, and didn’t brake, it’s their fault.
Holy crap, that truck driver only looked up in the last quarter-second. They most certainly were not “following too closely”, that’s bullshit.
The driver of the 2007 Dodge Ram pickup was taken to Wynn Hospital in Utica for treatment of minor injuries…
In the past, that accident would have been fatal to the driver. The only thing that saved him was government regulation requiring safety features, paid for by taxes–just to put a nice, fine point on it. Not everything our governments do is horrible, but I suspect the motivation in this case was insurance company lobbying, not empathy. It’s never empathy.
The initial investigation indicates that the pickup driver was following the bus too closely
Did they not see the video? Bus was almost at a full stop and it still took the truck 5 seconds to hit it at Mach Fuck. Not even a nervous driving instructor would call a >5 second follow distance “too close.”
“On the same highway system in the same reality” is apparently too close for this negligent shithead.
That’s the traffic offense. It’s the ticket you get when you rear-end someone. They aren’t trying to throw the book at the driver. It’s a routine citation.
Whoever wrote it just called a traffic ticket an “investigation” to make it sound dramatic.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the driver is a cop or at least knows the investigators. Sounds like a very fishy conclusion, the video makes it obvious he definitely had time enough to react.
Yep, that’s exactly what I thought. Even if you say that you were “brake-checked” for example, the cops in NYS will still give you a ticket and tell you to take it with the courts.
§ 1129. Following too closely. (a) The driver of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable and prudent, having due regard for the speed of such vehicles and the traffic upon and the condition of the highway.
Not to mention that NYS has stricter laws than most other states regarding stopped school busses; if they’re stopped, you can’t drive past them even if you’re in opposing traffic.
This story stinks, but glad that no kids got seriously hurt.
That’s the traffic offense. It’s the ticket you get when you rear-end someone. They aren’t trying to throw the book at the driver. It’s a routine citation.
Whoever wrote it just called a traffic ticket an “investigation” to make it sound dramatic.
I suppose it wastechnically the truth… Embedded in the back of the bus is certainly following too closely…
The most important and missed part of this video is that dad hugging his son.
Forget everything else you know about America or this accident. That hug shows who we are in America. Look closely. That’s us. Love each other!
Americans thinking they have monopoly on love
Look even closer. We have a monopoly on melting pot culture.
Right
That hug hits hard. A few more steps forward and it would have been a terrible situation.
I know! Also, if you watch closely, the kid just narrowly missed getting smacked by flying debris. Thank goodness!
2007 Dodge Ram
https://smartfinancial.com/car-brands-with-most-accidents
#2 in accidents. No surprise here.
Well at least it is living up to its name…
I get a 403…
I know there is lots and lots of righteous anger here. And that everyone can’t wait to hate on the vehicles in the US. But even a quick and dirty cursory search reveals that school bus transportation is extremely safe and accidents are very rare. So let’s add some context.
School buses travel about 16.5 million miles EVERY morning in the US. Double that for total route distance every day.
There is one crash roughly per 311,828 miles. That’s 501,822km for those of you living in West Texas.
Buses travel 7.3 million miles/11,748,211km for every reported injury.
The rate of fatalities is .4 per 100 million miles. And for those anywhere in Alabama, .4 fatalities per 160,934,400km. And that is the total of deaths inside and outside the bus.
Hopefully I can trust Lemmy users understand that zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve. Nor is it possible to reduce stupid to zero. This driver is a prime example of that. Regardless of the vehicle being driven. At best, we can just change the type of stupid. But stupid still going to happen. And apparently even Dodge Ram drivers are statistically very safe around school buses…
zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_Zero should still be our goal, and the U.S. lags behind most other countries in achieving it.
The bus wasn’t the problem here.
Cool now do F-150s
And the sun was behind that driver… it wasn’t even in his eyes. That’s probably the best lighting conditions imaginable, and they still missed the school bus.
Like WTF, dude. Why is it we don’t immediately revoke licenses for shit like this? Some people need to re-start from square one, yet we keep giving them fourth, fifth, and more chances to seriously injure or even kill others.
Benefit of doubt, maybe the person was having a medical situation. How about not selling these giant stupid pickup trucks as commuter vehicles so there’s actual crash compatibility when accidents do happen?
I remember reading a news report 20-30 years ago about bus accidents. A surprising number of people who ran into buses just “didn’t see them”. Human minds are weird, confusing, and haven’t really evolved for modern society.
I can believe it. I’ve only ever had 1 major accident (not counting deer). I rear ended someone and I still don’t know how. It was on a bright clear straight road I’d driven down hundreds of times before. I had no distractions that I can remember. I know for sure my phone was in my pocket because I remember having to dig it out with a mangled finger after the crash. I wasn’t in any rush. I leave more space behind other vehicles than most people do. All I remember is driving like any other day, suddenly noticing brake lights, and then stomping on the brakes far too late.
Thankfully it was only 30MPH and nobody was hurt except me. All I had was a peeled finger and a seat belt bruise. Still don’t know what actually happened that caused me to not notice. I bought a dash cam immediately after that.
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It was a route I drove basically any time I needed to go into town so autopilot is my best guess too. But I’m also not sure how much of me not remembering anything is caused by me not actually noticing anything durring the crash vs post adrenaline dump amnesia. Maybe the course of events that lead to the crash made perfect sense and I just can’t remember any of it because of the adrenaline dump immediately after the crash.
But yeah not much point hyper analyzing it now. Besides any way you lay it out rearending someone is never not your fault. I screwed up, I just wish I knew in what way.
I can believe it. I’ve only ever had 1 major accident (not counting deer). I rear ended someone and I still don’t know how. It was on a bright clear straight road I’d driven down hundreds of times before. I had no distractions that I can remember. I know for sure my phone was in my pocket because I remember having to dig it out with a mangled finger after the crash. I wasn’t in any rush. I leave more space behind other vehicles than most people do. All I remember is driving like any other day, suddenly noticing brake lights, and then stomping on the brakes far too late.
Thankfully it was only 30MPH and nobody was hurt except me. All I had was a peeled finger and a seat belt bruise. Still don’t know what actually happened that caused me to not notice. I bought a dash cam immediately after that.
Oh I do understand that for sure. My worst such case did not result in an accident luckily.
I had gone back to my hometown and was driving around and there was a new traffic light that I somehow didn’t see. I was so used to that intersection not having a light that even after years of being away, even in good conditions, even without any distractions, my mind somehow edited out effing traffic lights
Probably on his phone
Bro Dozer is no match for the construction of a school bus. Thank goodness. That guy needs a timeout without a license.
I’m pretty sure he’s getting a timeout.
Pickup truck mows a school bus and almost the kids inside too would be a better title for what I am seeing in the video
The height of pickup trucks should be capped by law. No crash compatibility with normal vehicles, automatically hits pedestrians in their vital organs, can’t see anyone sitting or fallen in front of it. What an absolutely idiotic society to let this kind of thing be driven on public roads without a special licence.
I have seen more drivers not just using their phones, but holding them up in front of their faces, in dumb giant trucks more than all other vehicle types combined.
It’s the standard duality of stupid conservatives that also makes them susceptible to fascist politics, like the thing where the enemy is born weak and strong.
They have to drive the biggest, most intimidating vehicle possible because of all the druggie minorities who are going to crash into them. But their Dunning-Kruger confidence in their flawless senses plus being in their rolling fortress “safe space” combine to make them some of the worst fucking drivers. And that’s when they aren’t carelessly driving drunk!
Holding them up is arguably better than staring at the floor trying to be sneaky. Either way it’s fucking stupid though. No message is that important, if it is they’d call.
