Guys the bus just jumped outta no where, he had no time to react. Plus it wasn’t dressed in bright enough colors to be visible
As a school bus driver, it is consistently shocking how invisible I am on the road
Everything happened so fast, he had only minutes to react!
Mannn, this is exactly what maga said when renee was murdered. “He had seconds to react!!”
i’m a firefighter. seen a few of these “slams into a taller object like a bus or rig…” and that pickup is very lucky if he lived. i am glad to see that hug. and calm walk to the scene too. guy was smart.
You’d think a bus would be tall enough to get inside the vision cone of a lifted truck…
It would be, but his cell phone blocked it.
Distracted by cell phones me apparently
The initial investigation indicates that the pickup driver was following the bus too closely
Did they not see the video? Bus was almost at a full stop and it still took the truck 5 seconds to hit it at Mach Fuck. Not even a nervous driving instructor would call a >5 second follow distance “too close.”
That’s the traffic offense. It’s the ticket you get when you rear-end someone. They aren’t trying to throw the book at the driver. It’s a routine citation.
Whoever wrote it just called a traffic ticket an “investigation” to make it sound dramatic.
I suppose it wastechnically the truth… Embedded in the back of the bus is certainly following too closely…
I wouldn’t be surprised if the driver is a cop or at least knows the investigators. Sounds like a very fishy conclusion, the video makes it obvious he definitely had time enough to react.
Yep, that’s exactly what I thought. Even if you say that you were “brake-checked” for example, the cops in NYS will still give you a ticket and tell you to take it with the courts.
§ 1129. Following too closely. (a) The driver of a motor vehicle shall not follow another vehicle more closely than is reasonable and prudent, having due regard for the speed of such vehicles and the traffic upon and the condition of the highway.
Not to mention that NYS has stricter laws than most other states regarding stopped school busses; if they’re stopped, you can’t drive past them even if you’re in opposing traffic.
This story stinks, but glad that no kids got seriously hurt.
That’s the traffic offense. It’s the ticket you get when you rear-end someone. They aren’t trying to throw the book at the driver. It’s a routine citation.
Whoever wrote it just called a traffic ticket an “investigation” to make it sound dramatic.
“On the same highway system in the same reality” is apparently too close for this negligent shithead.
Perhaps the Sun was blinding his view.
What are the downvotes for? You actually know why this happened?
Look at the angle of the shadows in the video – the sun is behind the driver
That isn’t an explanation of why it happened.
If they couldn’t see well enough to see something as large as a bus, the correct response is to slow down, not plow through at the speed limit.
That doesn’t explain why the driver didn’t slow down.
The point is the fault is 100% on the truck driver regardless of how well they could see. If they could see, but didn’t brake, it’s their fault. If they couldn’t see, and didn’t brake, it’s their fault.
Look at the shadow direction in the video.
That doesn’t explain why it happened.
That dad coming out, seeing that, then giving his son a hug was probably the most relieved he’s ever been in his life.
Wonder what the reason was. Messing with a phone?
As he (lets face it, this is most defenatly a he) is not even trying to break, and the school bus is as visible as ang objext can be I assume he was not looking at the raid. Telephone would be my guess as well
Yep. Big-ass brodozer truck almost guaranteed to be a guy. The sun is behind them so not blinded by that. There aren’t too many excuses other than OUI (medication or otherwise) or messing with a phone.
He had 2 kids on board too. What an insane piece of shit
Someone in the comments said the speed limit is 40.
The stupid school buses in my area stop on the road with 55mph speed limit when it would take an extra 15 seconds to turn into the neighborhood with 30mph speed limits. I’m surprised this exact wreck hasn’t happened yet.
i don’t doubt the safety hazard it creates. when i was a kid, all it took was a concerned parent going to the school board asking [why the school bus stop was on the 55 road with no sidewalk and no street lamp when it could be around the corner on the 25 road with a sidewalk and a street lamp] for them to move it. the parent was my neighbor who has some kind of dog rescue thing going on i’m not sure i don’t understand, she was so proud of that victory she’s still talking about it.
Horribly unsafe for the kids too, I guess none of the parents around here are concerned.
my point was for you to be that parent dude
I don’t have kids, I’m only concerned about my safety on that road.
There’s still probably someone at the school I could contact though.
Ah yes, stupid school buses. Not stupid road design or stupid speed limit. Wouldn’t want the idea that people live and commute on a road to get in the way of traffic.
Fucking /s
Don’t get me wrong, we need more buses. The cluster fuck of SUV traffic at the school is even worse, but they shouldn’t be stopping traffic on a busy 55mph road.
Sounds like the speed limit should be lowered to 30 on the road with the school bus stops
Yes I want to drive 20 miles at 30mph when they could just take a few extra seconds to pull into the neighborhood.
2007 Dodge Ram
https://smartfinancial.com/car-brands-with-most-accidents
#2 in accidents. No surprise here.
Well at least it is living up to its name…
I get a 403…
I don’t see a video on this link at all
Its in the post description
That’s not a full sized truck. That’s some wankers oversized support vehicle
Needs a truck that big to fit his magnum dong
I know there is lots and lots of righteous anger here. And that everyone can’t wait to hate on the vehicles in the US. But even a quick and dirty cursory search reveals that school bus transportation is extremely safe and accidents are very rare. So let’s add some context.
School buses travel about 16.5 million miles EVERY morning in the US. Double that for total route distance every day.
There is one crash roughly per 311,828 miles. That’s 501,822km for those of you living in West Texas.
Buses travel 7.3 million miles/11,748,211km for every reported injury.
The rate of fatalities is .4 per 100 million miles. And for those anywhere in Alabama, .4 fatalities per 160,934,400km. And that is the total of deaths inside and outside the bus.
Hopefully I can trust Lemmy users understand that zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve. Nor is it possible to reduce stupid to zero. This driver is a prime example of that. Regardless of the vehicle being driven. At best, we can just change the type of stupid. But stupid still going to happen. And apparently even Dodge Ram drivers are statistically very safe around school buses…
The bus wasn’t the problem here.
zero injuries and fatalities are statistically impossible to achieve
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_Zero should still be our goal, and the U.S. lags behind most other countries in achieving it.
Cool now do F-150s
That truck didn’t even attempt to brake. Driver asleep? Or too busy reading Twatter on his phone?
Following too close on Instagram.
You can hear the brakes being applied right before impact. Way too late, way too fast. Definitely phone.
OK, I had not had audio on, so I did not notice that. There was no noticable deceleration, though.
The “too fast” part depends on local regulations and his real speed before applying the brakes. Someting that can be determined from the video.
Because it’s an overweight truck with chunky tires useless on asphalt, the ABS engaged.
I’ve been rear-ended twice, and both times heard the other cars brakes just long enough before the impact to think “oh shit”… I can’t imagine what a school bus driver would think in this situation given all the kids…
Ugh I’m sorry D: I’ve been rear ended quite a few times, it’s awful. Only one car was fully destroyed, and I told my passenger “that car is gonna hit me”. 10 seconds later, BAM. Another time was low-impact, kid on his phone. Another time a crazy tweaker guy was driving nuts, hit me, and tried to run. I chased him down and he wanted me to get out of my car to look at the back of my car… I told him I’d wait for the authorities and he got in his car and sped off. He definitely was going to attack me if I got out. Wild stuff.
I’ve had the same thing happen multiple times. I’ve been hit three times while being stationary in traffic, it really sucks and there is essentially nothing you can do about it. I’ve seen it coming each time in the rear view and just said “oh shit!”.
After watching too many dash cam videos where this happens, I’ve started using my hazards when I’m stopped at the tail of traffic on a fast road. I don’t know if it really helps but it could and at least it’s an attempt to be more visible
I had a coworker who was permanently and severely disabled in a situation like this.
He was stopped at a red light behind a few other cars. Someone not watching the road plowed into him at 40-45mph, pushing his car into the one in front of him. Brown back, broken teeth, don’t remember what else other than that it was a lot. He was in the hospital for weeks.
Now I’m extra careful to leave some space between the car in front of me and mine when stopped, but even that can only help so much when you’ve got people driving around in heavy trucks like this.
I had that same thing happen but the car was going faster according to the police, the guy didn’t even break just hit be going 55 or so. I had I not borrowed my fiance’s far which was much safer than mine I’d have been in a similar position to your coworker. The entire back half of the car looked like a metal flower from the way it crumpled.
Probably automated driver assistance breaking. Lots of new vehicles will do that when they sense an imminent crash.
Those trigger way earlier.
Those safety features are really inconsistent though.
My car sometimes thinks I try to crash into cars parked at the roadside and starts screaming at me. The moment the alarm starts I’m like 10m away from the parked car at most, and then the breaks didn’t even engage.
My work van has trouble with fir trees when backing up. I assume somwthing about the mass of multiple ones in a row swaying together or somwthing makes it think its closer. But like 3 on 10 times it will auto brake at 20 feet and wont let you go any further. the easiest solution is for the passenger to hop out an stand behind the van, so it can tell how far away he is.
Agreed, to the point of ridiculousness.
Did anyone get hurt? I don’t wanna watch of anyone did
2 adults and 4 children were hurt according to the article, no one life threatening. None of the injured are visible in the video.
