It’s almost like the slogan should’ve been Make China Great Again lmao
While the states is busy overtaking Turkmenistan as Worlds Weirdest Dictatorship
What is so weird about Turkmenistan? Is it where they have a huge shiny statue of their previous “leader”? Not too weird…
I think it’s the guy obsessed with horses.
To be fair, those are some very fuckable horses. For people into stuff like that, I mean,
Most countries have that, no? Mount Rushmore comes to mind
That’s just America’s fascism peeking out to remind you it was always there.
They just ran out of large populations of local brown people to oppress so they go over seas to do it now.
A wonderful series of photo-heavy blog posts about Ashgabat, Turkmenistan can go some way to answering this question.
Wow, thanks so much for sharing this. I value this small glimpse into a part of the world I know next to nothing of. I loved how the low amount of text in these posts enhanced the surreal feeling of the images, e.g. an image captioned by “[place] empty at noon”, followed by an image captioned “[place] empty at night”
you forgot “[place] empty in the evening” between these two :-)
But how many variations of “peace” prize did Turkmenistan’s “dear leader” solicit? What’s his ratio of “peace” prizes to wars started?
Yippee.
I wouldn’t say Yippee, both suck.
I wish Europe picks up the pace
We already saw what happens when Europe picks up pace, twice. I think they are fine with the current pace. They just need to kick Putin’s face in.
I hope African countries will have a great leap forward with everyone else busy with geopolitics, without China or the west interfering. They already have the materials, they only need innovative people to utilize it without exploitation.
Nigeria has more births than the whole of Europe.
Hopefully they can do something good, I also have a lot of hope for South Africa, but big things are probably not going to happen in my lifetime
That’s why it was a deadpan “Yippee”, it doesn’t show well in written form.
I think the full stop at the end did the trick
“yippee”
“Both sides” lol cope
Is gay marriage legal in china?
Is china currently bombing anyone?
Is china currently engaged in a genocide of a minority?
No, and the only countries pretending otherwise are involved in non-fictional genocide. Xinjiang is open to the public you fucking moron.
Of course it’s .ml…
Already done, bruh. 6 years of Republicans tearing down everything led to this. Not a shocker.
It’s been more like 40 years of Republican rule.
It’s truely a team effort the Republicans and Democrats are the ratchet effect manifested.
The FPTP system ensures you will only get those two choices so if you want to effect change its probably easiest to do it at the primary level.
People always say ‘progressives can’t get elected nationally’ or whatever forgetting FPTP ensures things will swap back (under the assumption that one side doesn’t flip fascist before that happens, big assumption in this climate I know) because eventually people will tire of the person in power and either vote for ‘change’ or stay home.
They’re banning books, that says a lot.
Usually I would agree with you, but in this context, I am fairly sure China bans more book than the U.S.
This would be really concerning if science was real
The dollar is a piece of paper that people believe in and therefore fictional as well, as much as is all the mathematics that the US financial system is based on. Would you consider them insignificant, too?
Why are you saying this stupid thing?
Sarcasm doesn’t come through in text.
We shouldn’t feed the trolls — this person is clearly not interested in productive, good faith discussions
Its disturbing to think there are real people with access to internet who think like this
US education system at work lol
Let’s see them try to keep up with incarceration rates per 100k people. USA is truly a world power in that regard.
Maybe because China is not exclusively focusing on Improving AI?
It’s because they make everything and have spare money to spend on research.
The US runs on debt, and we are running out of debt.
Why spend money on new technology when you can ensure our fossil fuel oligarchs are the richest in the world? Why struggle for a place with new technology when you can dominate previous technology?
We have a president with a personal vendetta against wind turbines who exhausted the legal ways to block development of wind farms so is spending $1B to have a company walk away from one
Also because China is not experiencing a religious movement that rejects science.
Maybe?
The evangelicals made a deal with a grifter.
I feel as though the low standard of living of the average Chinese national is a more decisive factor. The resources that could be spent on public welfare programs are spent on research and subsidies instead.
Poor Chinese with their 96% home owner rate, great social benefits and no debt.
It’s more like poor China with their average $5000 per year income.
They also have a 0% homeowner rate. All property is owned by the state. As for the houses they do own, the typical city apartment or rural homestead is…deficient by Western standards.
All property is owned by the state.
In the US too, if unpaid property taxes mean your home can be foreclosed upon
Sigh, I’ll dumb it down for you.
if you have 5 rocks and it gets you a house, and another guy has 10 rocks that can only buy a Dr Pepper the guy with 10 rocks is not better off.
And you clearly don’t know anything about the system of home ownership either.
And their homes and cities are far more advanced and clean than let’s say the US shithole’s dilapidated cardboard shacks and glorified trailers. If they have a home that is.
But I should’ve seen your bias from your first silly comment so I’m going to let you be in your delusion and ignorance and not waste my time.I’m having a hard time believing that you live in either China or the United States. You definitely don’t live in the United States because you aren’t familiar with our low income housing; if you do live in China, you’re job is to write these comments.
If there is one thing I learned about Lemmy, it’s that there are quite a few bot handlers that don’t want it to gain momentum. We are going to need some form of identity verification if this community wants to get off the ground.
if you do live in China, you’re job is to write these comments.
LOL man you’re even further gone than I imagined from your previous comment.
You really drank the China bad cool aid.No I don’t live in China but in EU.
As if that matters (to anyone not paranoid and imagining things like yourself)
And it’s perfectly possible to know how people live in the US.
Or do your organizations give false statistics on the massive homelessness and poverty?
And I’ve heard first hand stories from people who went there. (I will never set foot in that banana republic)
All ‘normal’ for the people that do the NY,lA touristy things, but man were my friends shocked when they had the bad idea to bike along a large part of the coast and see the real america.
complete villages with junkies, slums and 3rd world world conditions everywhere.
The crime that came with it ended that trip a lot sooner than they planned.
I have more stories but I guess the people I know are secretely chinese or Russians trying to badmouth the greatest country in the universe.Anyway not buying your BS and maybe you get some verification at a psychologist, if you can afford it that is.
I mean, resources aren’t being spent on public welfare programs in the US either. We only have a higher standard of living because of the legacy of (roughly) the New Deal era, when we were investing in it as well as unions winning a lot of labor reforms. Those preexisting advantages have only been slowly eroding for the last 40-odd years.
They absolutely are.
Let’s say I get into a car accident or have cancer. Treatment involves expensive chemotherapy, blood transfusions, and multiple rounds of major surgery.
If I’m in the poorest 10%-30% of the population, the care is provided free of charge. If I’m poor-but not that poor- I have the option to receive the expensive treatment and just not pay. It will just negatively impact my credit score, but I can also get away with “paying what I can afford.”
…this is just one example. Everything from our food to our electronics are subsidized by the government. Most of the resources are more or less taken from poorer nations. If they don’t play ball, we withhold aid, bribe officials, loan their enemies weapons, or finance a coup.
Saying ‘It will just negatively impact your credit score’ like it’s nothing in a capitalist nation where nearly all financial trust is based on how effectively you pay back your creditors is a pretty wild take.
Especially when a car and home are the bare minimum for most people to be able to function in the US (public transport is laughable anywhere outside a metropolis) and the average person isn’t getting either without a loan.
I wouldn’t be so quick to ignore medical debt. The average retired couple spends $350000 on medical expenses in the US. The system is a lot more dysfunctional than you make it out to be.
It could be better, but even the person with crippling medical debt lives luxuriously relative to the global norm. I think it could be better, but I think it’s important to understand exactly how much we have.
Where we got it is also important. I think it’s important to understand the exact role that weapons manufacturers and corporate chronies play in bolstering our lifestyles. At the end of the day, I don’t think the average citizen wants to know.
“Is overtaking?” Sorry buddy, that point lies in the past. China dominates nearly all of the relevant future technologies and is still ramping up its investments. There’s no stopping them now.
Even in the AI sector they seem to be only a pace or two behind. Their models are as good and require less compute. It really does feel like we are falling behind in everything.
In some ways their AI might even be better at this point. I’ve talked with Claude users complaining that their AI kept skipping steps and I haven’t had that problem with GLM 5.
“Their models are as good and require less compute.”
In a sense, this is exactly why I think that China will inevitably overtake the US in this field too. Even besides things like Deepseek, which distills LLMs dominant in the US into a more streamlined model, China also seems to be putting more resources into researching AI that doesn’t need to start out with mahoosive amounts of data.
Even in the AI sector
they said relevant future technologies
Solid burn
China sent their best and brightest to be educated in American colleges, which American kids can’t get without taking on a lifetime of student debt. Most American kids aren’t rich enough to deserve to be smart.
It’s okay, though, we’ll need those bodies for the war. Trump is competing against Putin numbers for sacrifices. 1.2 million so far in Ukraine. Trump has some catching up to do. He wants to be able to brag to his Sociopathic Oligarch buddies at dinner at Maralago about how many soldiers have died for him, and the higher the number the better. That’s how much they love him.
American students don’t need college, that’s for the Chinese who build our stuff. The Draft is coming for American students. They should be willing to die to protect American Freedom.®
The US paid the best and brightest foreigners to teach in American colleges.
Who knew that taking funding for scientific research away from government institutes and universities and giving it to ketamine-addicted con men would have negative consequences.
it’s not negative to the con men. a nation of science-averse suspicious uneducated half wits is exactly what they need to stay in power
but also stagnate
The US forfeit that race when they elected drumpf…
LOL that’s just cope
It’s just acknowledging reality. What the fuck is your point?
Chill TF out maybe?
China has been gaining and surpassing you no matter what face was in charge.
As I said, it’s cope so you can delude yourself and think it wouldn’t be if it weren’t for the bad evil man.
Same as the Iran failure.
Where you see plenty americans say they’re losing simply bcs of Trump and their super duper invincible military would be in Teheran by now under some other imperialist.
americans are sore losers and can’t come to terms that they’re being surpassed hard and circling the drain.
With or without Trump.So the point is quite important, you’re wrong and americans sore losers.
You are clearly at the denial/anger stage.
That won’t help you.There’s a difference between “still in the race, being surpassed” and “no longer in the race because forfeit.”
Before trump, the US still had green energy initiatives. They weren’t enough, but they were better than nothing. It still funded science and research. Not enough, but better than nothing.
All of that is gone now. So your attempts to equate “with” and “without” trump is nothing but disinformation, plain and simple.
Where you see plenty americans say they’re losing simply bcs of Trump and their super duper invincible military would be in Teheran by now under some other imperialist.
That’s not what I see at all. I see millions of americans saying we shouldn’t even be involved in Iran. And the fact is, we wouldn’t be if it weren’t for trump. So again, your false equivalencies are as asinine as they are incorrect.
And I’m kinda fed up with all this shit, so I don’t have much patience for it right now. Go tell someone else to chill the fuck out, cause I’m not having any more of your bullshit strawman arguments.
LOL “no longer in the race because forfeit.”
That’s exactly what I mean, “we could win but our leader made us quit”. COPE
Trump has been in charge for barely 13 months.
The structure and evolution of scientific growth are a thing measured in decades.
The benefits come much later, it takes years of investing in education and infrastructure, then waiting for generations to get years of that education and finally reaping those benefits when they become professionals.What you see now is the result of what you did before, Trumps damage will only have an impact later in these fields.
And what you did before was continuously losing ground and being surpassed.
Since a few decades, when Trump was just a TV clown diddling kids and China started investing and educating.About the war:
Sure half of you don’t want this war,it’s how your dogmatic 2 sides work. They say this, so I say the opposite, on any issue.
Doesn’t mean they don’t believe what their massive propaganda and false image of being the world police and superiority.
After all you’re americans.They just can’t have their bubble burst and are, as I said, in denial.
And I mean denial as in the psychological definition:
- a defense mechanism where an individual refuses to acknowledge, accept, or face an unpleasant reality, fact, or feeling, treating it as if it were not true to avoid anxiety or emotional pain. It acts as a protective, often subconscious, barrier against overwhelming, threatening, or uncomfortable information. *
You manifest the typical flight response to it perfectly BTW:
“And I’m kinda fed up with all this shit, so I don’t have much patience for it right now.”Between ignoring everything I said, twisting it out of context, and then bringing in all sorts of red herrings from every angle, you’re clearly just a troll and I don’t have the energy to deal with you. It would be pointless anyway.
You don’t get to be a total dick and then just say people are in denial cause they won’t put up with your shit. I’m under no obligation to listen to your drivel.
Yes, that little bump the Americans got after the 1940s because of some, er… “immigrants” has long since run out.
Immigrants? You have no idea what you are talking about, Von Braun is a good old American name.
Let’s call it a prolonged international exchange program.
China already did long time ago, and US were already finished before they put Trump on the spot.
All the insanity from ‘Trump’, was planned by think tanks years before, so ALL lib/dem presidents just played the big think tank game just like Trump, and he is just showing the real face/intents of the US fascist dictatorship. None of them - no matter ‘side’ cared about causes or people, and all of them played the pre-set game dictated by the US Oligarchs.
Current US behavior are just ‘mask off’ that shows who is really in charge in the US “Democracy” and what they think of anything else than keeping their property/power.
US post WW2 boom is over and they squandered it.
We have been running on old money for decades. We used China for our slave labor, and now they make the best stuff and don’t need us. That’s why the US is 70% service industry now. We are basically two rich trust fund babies jerking ourselves from off surrounded by slave labor, but eventually we run out of money. We are at the running out of money phase
Yeah but this is round two: science boogaloo. We have a government actively hostile to science and research, throwing away where we still had a leading position.
In particular, we’re reversing the brain drain from China. If they’re becoming slightly less repressive and welcome science while we’re cutting research, cutting legal immigration, driving cuts by racism and judging research by whether the ai classifies it as “woke”, too many researchers who would have come here may no longer feel welcome
The US still holds the reserve currency, that they force other countries to use via military force. Which allows them to export their inflation, and to print money to build up the military they use to protect its usage.
I think the problem is the population got too heavy into taking in debt via this mechanism, always asking for more and more tax cuts and more social programs, and China themselves stopped buying US treasuries in 2016. Then locking Russia out of US bonds further exacerbated the issue, as its no longer seen as a neutral asset, so bond yields rise as less people buy them.
Then the tariffs and higher interest rates cause debt crisis in other countries by limiting their access to USD, which makes them attempt to move away, which is likely how gold prices nearly doubled in a single year. Its pretty wild whats happening.
This is exactly what is happening with gold. Everyone dumping usd for gold right now
Where are these social programs?
The US federal government is a well armed pension fund.
Well technically social security is a social program, as it medicare, given they are funded by debt. Those are the vast majority.
Most boom was due to the cold war, US got rid of its only rival and went rogue and shot itself in the foot
You can’t compete with a nation that doesn’t feel bad about exploitation of workers. If the workers cooperate then you can get a crazy amount of productivity out of them. The united states is losing its power because we aren’t willing to work as we used to. It’s a tradeoff, but I’m fine with it except that I’m not sure I trust China/Xi Jinping as the world’s superpower. He eliminated term limits when he took power, and I’m sure has no intention of going anywhere for a long time. Everyone so busy celebrating Trump looking bad, but forgetting that it could be and will be a lot worse for the western world under a Chinese dictator.
“The US exploits its workers just as much, but at least it feels very sorry about it!”
What a stupid take! Americans are working longer and harder for less pay and disappearing benefits, with a bleak future and risk of financial ruin of you get sick or terminated.
China is funding research universities and subsidizing Chinese students, while the US is killing scholarships and starting fights with top universities over politics.
Americans are working longer and harder for less pay and disappearing benefits, with a bleak future and risk of financial ruin of you get sick or terminated.
I mean you’re right and that’s bad; I’m just pointing out that China has had gruesome 996 working weeks (72 hours/week) for decades IIRC and i’m not sure if chinese people work that much voluntarily or involuntarily.
Wait, you claim the US feels bad about the exploitation of workers? That the workers productivity hasn’t skyrocketed while wages are stagnant?
Oh let him have his little China meltdown, he’s got football to watch Monday.
The point of the article is that of you stop investing in science, you are going to fall behind in science.
This is part of why I am (slowly) learning Mandarin.
Wo ye xuexi hanyu, yi dian dian
I’m so tempted to, tbh. I wonder how hard it’d be to go from joyou Kanji to hanzi.
I can read probably 1000ish kanji (maybe more), and some are super easy. Others are less so 漢 -> 汉 is … what?
I have a feeling I’ll have to learn traditional and simplified at the same time and that feels a bit daunting. 😅
AFAIK, if you’re targeting mainland China and don’t need to read anything historic, simplified should be enough. Anywhere else, you would need to learn them. I quite like this YouTuber for various linguistic stuff on Chinese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8EFhnMaVRk
