I have never seen any Star Wars movie.
You’re really not missing that much. Especially with no nostalgia goggles
You will be incredibly disappointed if you do. It’s like Boomers ramming The Beatles down your throat. It’s religious fantasy.
Eh disagree with the Beatles comparison. Their work stands the test of time, and their influence on music is, in many ways, actually tangible
Ok Boomer, and if you drag your kids to enough Star Wars movies, eventually they will succumb and watch every crap movie in the franchise.
There was a lot of influential music in that era not the Beatles.
They have their flaws like many movies that are space operas. Suspension of disbelief and all that is required. That said there are some just generally good gems that you might like. Rogue One was a good heist movie, The Empire Strikes Back was good because people still told George to stuff it with some of his ideas.
With Disney just ramming so much Star Wars down our throats and much of it mediocre at best, I look at the older works more critically. I think there’s some fun to be had still but I wouldn’t consider them required watching anymore.
It’s treason then.
As soon as it was evident the new movie was just the old movie, but with an even bigger no moon that could blow up 7 planets at once with red lasers instead of green, I was over it. Seeing the fucking laser arches in a space chase in the other movie just killed any desire to watch more.
The prequels were just as hated as the sequels are right now, but then gen z grew up and the nostalgia for those movies suddenly made them okay in the public awareness.
No they weren’t. There were cool bits people loved. Instant classic scenes people liked immediately. I watched Episode 7 but I remember nothing, then never watched any of the later ones. I did like Rogue One
Episode 1: Pod racing is cool.
Darth Maul’s double light saber and a cool duel with cool music.Episode 2:
Chase scene, factory scene, pretty cool.
Full scale war with the clones.
Yoda fighting! Theater blew up on this one!Episode 3:
Battle scene in the opening
Betrayal scenes: “unlimited power!”, Order 66, marching clones, killing the youngling Fighting on lava, and Anakin seething with rage!I did like Rogue One
Surprisingly, a good movie. I’d say, same quality as Mandalorian to me. Just plain good media. Not super epic, or extremely engaging. Just a good movie. But somehow is not popular enough and I remember hardcore fans not liking it either. No idea what exactly is so bad about it compared to The Last Jedi.
Every time I consider watching them I remember how they butchered logic and character development. Or plotlines that could be removed with no impact whatsoever.
The only thing I can say is that the dialogs are at least not as shallow as in the prequel trilogy.
I trid to re-watch those a few weeks ago and… No. I couldn’t stand the moments they opened their mouths to speak their lines, sorry to say.
The first one of the new set was ok. Slightly darker overtones.
Backing up a bit - the second trilogy had an all-star cast, yet a wooden log had more writing skill, acting ability, and charisma than the people on the screen. It was like people in a classroom being told to take turns reading out loud from the assigned book. The lack of acting and directorial skill was made up with by the abuse and overuse of CGI. Awful. I have never watched the second set since release. Lump the Boba Fett series in with this set, it was so wooden and poorly written they had to bring in the Mandalorian to rescue it.
Han Solo? Throwaway movie. Really didn’t do the character justice. Turned him into an Errol Flynn “Robin Hood”. I think everyone’s forgotten about it even existing.
The new set? Love the practical effects. Way less CGI. Awesome. But now the acting was ridiculous and over the top as were the characters. I know she gets some hate, but I think Ridley did a decent job of it with what she was given. The rest? Meh. Just written crazy with shameless bad writing, merch placement, and trite lines.
We’ll have to see about the new Mando movie.
Best Star Wars? ANH, ESB, R1, Andor. Some of the Mandalorian series. Probably some of the animated ones, but I haven’t watched them.
Eh, turned into more of a critique than I wanted, but I guess I’ll leave it.
What do you think of the original trilogy?
Kinda covered that, but ANH (which wasn’t ANH on release…) gets full marks for being first even if it is kinda silly at times. ESB is great. Darker, more serious, the cast and writers hit their stride. ROTJ is pretty much of the same vein as TLJ or TROS. A rehash or retread of already done themes with fluffy happy critters perfect for toy sales. Not great, but not awful. I liked it as a way to say goodbye to characters I never thought I’d see again. Man, was I wrong.
Ok, sorry, I’m not much of a star wars fan and I didn’t recognize the abbrevations.
Best Star Wars?
The Clone Wars. Hands down.
Bad Batch
The Bad Batch episodes were great. The Bad Batch show was weak IMO.
The Force Awakens was cool, I would always defend that movie.
But 8 and 9 were incredibly bad movies and bad star wars media.
Andor shits on the rest of Star Wars, also Solo was good.
The rest? Mediocre at best.
Mandelorean S1 was great
As is season 2.
Boba was Mando season 2.5 and while the Mando moments are good, it comes too soon and the Boba story is messy.
Mando season 3 also has good moments, but it needed at least two seasons to tell the story, but instead it’s rushed it so they can make a film.
People complain about having to wait 2 years for 8 episodes of TV, Mando season 3 to the film is waiting three years for about 2-3 episodes.
I preferred S1 where it’s just a dad on the run with his adopted son, before they started trying to add all these tie-ins to more “mainline” Star Wars lore.
So I agree, but it’s impossible to keep Baby Yoda in a bottle. Any other Jedi or potential Jedi species and you can play that out however you want. But Baby Yoda? You can’t ignore that.
I understand conceptually the idea of not tying it to mainline lore… But Baby Yoda? You can’t ignore that.
Sure you can. Grogu is a rare and powerful species, but nothing about the story necessitates meeting CGI Luke Skywalker.
Ahsoka was fun.
I liked rogue one.
Like that isn’t happening to The Phantom Menace?
Which is by far the worst Star Wars movie of them all.
No, the final film is by far the worst.
Nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans.
As an idea, it’s fantastic with limitless potential. As a finished product, it’s two and a half good movies, and two good series.
Narcos cast members unironically did more for Star Wars than the Skywalker family ever did.
2.5 Movies
Are you cherry picking, or summing the total of all 9?
About half of A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Rogue One.
I said what I said.
The writing was just… so atrocious in the last trilogy. Like, no coherent themes or through lines, characters were bland and poorly executed, dialog was clunky and stilted, pacing was none existent and the story was disjointed with completely un-engaging stakes.
Like, some say “oh well that’s true of all the previous star wars films” and no, it wasn’t. Some of that was true of some elements of the first and second trilogy. But none were all of that at once.
I just have… no faith they’ll do anything interesting. Once is a fluke, twice is bad luck, three times is a pattern. Disney’s modern methodology for producing films is clearly flawed at some fundamental level. The chance that the corporate machinery has realized there is a problem, correctly identified it, and then actually fixed it is close to zero.
Plus Kylo-Ren is not scary or intimidating
He just seems like a force wielding spaz
So there is no threat, or sense of danger…zzzz
Having Kylo Ren and the First Order be a bunch of larping dweebs was almost fun back when the ‘alt-right’ was just a bunch of larping dweebs. I wish they’d kept the spirit of that interpretation.
Plus Kylo-Ren is not scary or intimidating
Adam Driver is terrible. He should stick to bad italian accents.
I feel like it was more direction?
He def conveyed petulant, angry force wielding spaz…and clearly no one told him not to
His acting in Marriage Story was pretty good, I agree that the directors/writers are mostly to blame for Kylo-Ren
“Somehow, Palpatine returned”
No shit no one wants to watch this. Marvel just milks IPs for a super long time and anyone thinking otherwise are blind and gullible.
Solid Freudian slip.
I mean, aint Marvel under Disney wing for a while? Same feathers, same bird.
The difference is marvel said in the beginning that wanted to milk it for multiple storylines. Disney just does it because they breath money, not oxygen. It’s a good pairing.
Largely everything Disney makes now is trash. Everything is written by an executive and it’s always bad.
Well, don’t worry because now everything will be written by AI!
Onward is a good movie though
Any original projects seem to be left mostly alone, so the creators can actually do their jobs…
All their sequels and IP though… they reek of focus groups and decisions made by Excel spreadsheets ….!
(Now I just remembered how Wish became a husk of its original plan… so disregard all that 🤣)
I can agree with that
Same reason I dont read the Mr Men books anymore.
Actually no, the Mr Men books arent completely shit.
Somehow they’re still making these movies.
Fuck Disney.
This is the right and complete answer.
When the prequels came out, I didn’t love them, but I absolutely had to wear it the fact that we got more Star Wars. At the time we really didn’t expect to get any more out of the franchise. IMO Jar Jar notwithstanding, they were acceptable, but not up to the greatness of the originals. While far from perfect, they did tell a story, They added decent choreography and some reasonably pretty visuals.
The new trilogy tried to go all Kubrick on us.They try to tell a story through visual cues and really, it’s not doing a great job at it. The characters have Backstories, but they’re held from you until you’re getting three-quarters of the way through the movie trying to figure out what the hell is going on while they get around to tying in the original characters. Star Wars requires that exposition.And honestly, another Death Star, another critical flaw, its bigger, its scarier, its all really low effort bullshit.
It was great seeing Luke and Han again, I really wanted to like Rey, They just utterly failed to develop her character, and then the crak with Snoke. You just end up coming out of the movie, feeling like you didn’t understand half of what the new story is, and being utterly bored with the other half and all the horrible things happening to the protagonist that you don’t really care that much about.
They could’ve developed the different jedi codexes, but they just let them burn!
There’s so much canon and a million threads they could have picked up and pulled.
They could have taken a list of Star Wars media (books, video games, etc), sorted by highest rated of all time, and compiled a list of ideas that would have printed a legendary amount of money.
How they approached it was so foolish.
