• subversive_dev@lemmy.ml
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    3 months ago

    It benefits the security state for a Dem to take the helm and lull the masses back to sleep with sweet words while continuing 99% of Trump’s policies

  • Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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    3 months ago

    Nah I’m sticking third party. Not like the Dems care about my state anyway or that anyone worth a damn would run in the primaries here.

  • daannii@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yeah so a lot of Israel politicians and Republicans actually run as blue candidates.

    That’s lazy thinking.

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    3 months ago

    Unless the candidate is a progressive, then the establishment Dems won’t endorse them (unless the progressive wins, then suddenly they totally supported the progressive all along)

    (no, I’m not saying don’t vote, just frustrated by the fucking hypocrisy)

    • sunrisepirate@piefed.social
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      3 months ago

      Make sure you’re pressuring the establishment Democrats in your jurisdiction and the people making campaign contributions.

    • Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Yeah didn’t the Democratic Party take credit for some shit Mamdani got done? Seemed pretty shitty since they tried to stop him from getting elected.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        vote in the primaries.

        When the party runs primaries at all, they interfere with them every chance they get. Saying “jUsT vOtE iN tHe PrImArIeS” without acknowledging this paints the results of the party’s corruption as the will of the people.

      • MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca
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        3 months ago

        Exactly. This times a million. We don’t vote in primaries and then get all surprised that the Democratic candidates resemble the folks who voted in the primaries.

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          Imo if you don’t vote in the primaries, you’ve forfeited your right to bitch about the candidates on the general ticket

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        3 months ago

        Ya that’s a problem I have in my neck of the words. Everyone complains about who is on the General Election ticket and they just shrug their shoulders about voting in the Primary.

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          “You mean I have to vote, and then vote again? Ugh, I wasnt even planning to show up to the actual vote. Meh…it’ll all work out fine.”

            • ChristerMLB@piefed.social
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              3 months ago

              or just have longer and more convenient early voting? In Norway you can vote for at least a month at local public institutions

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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              3 months ago

              If voting day was a holiday, only people who get federal holidays off would get the day off. But it would be a great excuse to get rid of early voting.

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                  Good thing no one has to work on Sundays. Easter Sunday is a federal holiday and there’s plenty of people who still have to work.

                  If voting day becomes a federal holiday, states that don’t like the idea of poor people voting will do away with early voting.

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              3 months ago

              I have worked for companies that would rather pay out unemployment due to wrongful termination than give time off for voting.

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        3 months ago

        I figured that bit was obvious, I was speaking more towards the Dem leadership’s hypocrisy. Again, absolutely not saying “don’t vote both sides reeeeee”

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        Extremists get their way, because they infiltrate a party of their choice and slowly move it towards their goals. They don’t care if the party they root for is 100% exactly what they want, they just manipulate it and its members long enough until it does. The same could be done by the opposing side, yet somehow they decided to stay at home to “teach the dems a lesson”, while waiting for the shining hero to save them all…

        People might hate me for this, but i think it’s not just the maga cult that is affected by the broken educational system and centuries of exceptionalist propaganda. Political parties don’t change by doing nothing.

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        3 months ago

        Maybe it never happens because the people who say they would vote for the “true” left don’t vote?

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        3 months ago

        …the reason is that the other side does not “vote red no matter who” which forces the party to run people who represent them

  • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Good idea, commenters. Lets keep fighting each other about the perfect candidate for an election that already happened. Surely this will change the situation were in

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      Lets keep fighting each other about the perfect candidate

      I genuinely wonder what you think a primary involves.

      Like, do all the candidates just hug it out?

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        3 months ago

        I genuinely wonder what you think a primary involves.

        It involves installing a pro-genocide candidate without asking anyone.

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    3 months ago

    If you want to know why lefties lose you need only look at the comments critical of this post.

    It’s absolutely valid to be displeased by how center or right-leaning the “left-wing” candidates are. But you have to accept that only supporting your perfect candidate is just going to keep pushing all candidates to the right as they lose.

  • Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Yay.

    Election season.

    People telling me to vote blue no matter who like I haven’t been doing that since I was 18.

    And I’m fucking old.

    Not to mention the arguments. People just mad everywhere.

    I love politics and don’t hate this stupid game I’m forced to play and always lose.

    Fuck the world.

  • TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’m pretty jaded and cynical about the whole thing at this point, but I also don’t have a better idea. Idk, just so whatever you think is right.