• Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    Along with the other answers:

    Because cooked cowflesh smells delicious, and there are companies out there that are willing to capitalize on that.

    The bigger question is: why do people still drink cows milk? And the answer to that one is all about politics and power.

  • canadaduane@lemmy.ca
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    2 years ago

    I appreciate your question, but I think “we know” is problematic:

    • who is “we”?
    • how do we “know”?
    • can some people know one thing while others know the opposite?

    I’m not trolling, either, just asking questions from a philosophical point of view. I’ve changed my mind about several things I took very seriously and thought I was 100% right about. Could others be dealing with similar changing-mind-through-time processes? Could you?

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      2 years ago

      I’m a native whose culture have hunted and eaten meat for millennia, what propaganda were my ancient ancestors being shown?

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        2 years ago

        What does what your ancestors did have to do with what we now know about modern factory farming? The question was about still eating beef despite what we know today, what does that have to do with your ancestors? Is your comment not the very definition of a strawman?

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              The future will absolutely not look down on cultures that have to rely on animals for food. Do we look at native Americans as horrible people because they had to slaughter animals, in a controlled, and relatively well thought out manner?

              Personally I believe the most likely alternative will be bugs. Do bugs not count as an animal? Or would you say bugs shouldn’t be eaten either

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                They would drive animals off cliffs. That would cause horror if they were to repeat it today yes. Just stop eating living animals it’s that simple, but if you want to eat bugs, knock yourself out.

                I think we’ll find “plagues” of species more common and end up harvesting as many as possible then so that “locust” is the primary protein source for that year.

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                  2 years ago

                  Its not that simple. I can see why you believe it is, and it probably helps contribute to why you have little empathy even for those who show you they physically cant.

          • SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today
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            18 days ago

            “We owned slaves for a long time, who are you to tell me it’s wrong?”

            Hello. We are trying to be decent human beings. Please join us in building a better society. I don’t give a shit how many people were wrong for how long, wrong is wrong and we know better now.

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 years ago

    What a loaded question.

    Outside of the fact that a single cows life provides about 900 meals for humans, and the scraps left over make boots that last for a decade and also feed our cats and dogs. Plus, it’s delicious.

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      2 years ago

      Imagine how many people you could feed if we would just eat what we fed the animals!

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        2 years ago

        We can’t live on hay and corn. Cows need several stomachs to do it.

        Also, getting enough protein and creatine and other vitamins as a vegan is a hell of a lot of work and doesn’t taste as good.

        Humans are animals, and the type of animals we are is omnivores. Not herbivores.

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          8 months ago

          Humans are animals, and the type of animals we are is omnivores. Not herbivores.

          Yup. Mostly better suited more leaning to the carnivore and fruitarian side of omnivore.

          Man cannot live on grass.

          Also, getting enough protein and creatine and other vitamins as a vegan is a hell of a lot of work and doesn’t taste as good.

          I tried hard, for a decade, and never managed to fully do it, even with a lot of hemp kernels (1-4 cups) every day.

          Health bouncing back since going keto-carn. Mostly beef. (Grass fed).

          So simple, so easily healthy.

          Contrast to the complex chemistry juggling jigsaw of trying to have a vegan diet.

          Maybe blood type matters. Maybe other blood types than mine have an easier time of vegan (or at least vegetarian, or just pescetarian). Or other genetic, evolutionary, environmental factors.

      • Digit@lemmy.wtf
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        8 months ago

        You start.

        Let me know how a diet of grass works out for you, your digestive system, your immune system, and overall health.

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      Yeah so, the amount of meals is correct. But that’s about it. I mean, I can’t say about the taste, to each their own, but one kg of cow meat needs two dozen kg of grain.

      That’s about as inefficient as it gets.

      As for the leather, the industry doesn’t like products that last a decade, so it isn’t actually using the leather in such a way. Industrial leather boots last a year tops.

      Finally, pet food is made out of discarded cuts of meat, the uglies, etc. But also lots of cereals, and vegetables.

      So we could really afford eating less meat. It isn’t good for anything. Not for us, not for the other species (certainly not for the cows, that get often half assed butchered in a hasty way because of quotas and profit), and absolutely not for the ecosystem.

      But I guess the taste is all that matters.

      • FaceDeer@fedia.io
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        2 years ago

        Cows are not all fed on grain. A lot of cows are ranched on land that would not be suitable for growing grain crops.

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          Whatever their food is, 1kg of beef requires 24kg of grain’s worth of energy. This is something they teach in high-school biology now. The higher the food chain, the more energy is lost. Stopping such production would be pretty beneficial to the environment, but whether we should is a complicated question.

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            But as I pointed out, many cattle are ranched on land that cannot grow grain. They can’t grow the sorts of crops that humans eat, only the sorts of crops that cattle eat. If cattle weren’t being ranched on those lands they wouldn’t be producing edible grain instead, or any other food that humans could eat. So the inefficiency is moot when it comes to the amount of nutrition produced, removing the cattle from that land would simply reduce the total amount of food we have available.

            Sure, if you remove the cattle then wild animals could come in to replace them, but we should make sure that’s not going to result in starvation and poverty if we do that. Many areas of the world have subsistence ranching by the locals.

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              Interesting. However, a search says that feeding all the grass (or whatever) to cattle takes that food away from existing ecosystems in dry areas and potentially allow exotic weeds to take over land. So we probably don’t want this to expand to the point where we intrude on dry ecosystems.

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                It’s just a matter of land management. Many of those grassland areas used to have other large grazing animals on them, so as long as the cattle herds aren’t bigger than those old herds it should be sustainable.

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          8 months ago

          Or even land that is suitable for growing grain, but they’re kept being fed almost entirely on grass, for better quality, better health (and less cow farts, lol), rather than cost cutting nasty to bulk them up.

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            8 months ago

            Well, if we’re talking pure food-production efficiency, then if the land is capable of growing grain then it’s probably better to grow grain there and feed the grain directly to humans.

            But upvote anyway for responding to a year-and-a-half-old thread, this is the oldest necro response I’ve received yet on the Fediverse. :)

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              Well, if we’re talking pure food-production efficiency, then if the land is capable of growing grain then it’s probably better to grow grain there and feed the grain directly to humans.

              Well in that case perhaps we should do just algae and worms.

              Or maybe we should consider more than “pure food-production efficiency” in such a crude manner.

              Perhaps we should consider nutrition and health (of those eating the food, and the environment), more than just crude bulk quantity.

              Grain based diet would ruin our immune systems, and the health of the soil, without animal fertilizer.

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                Grain based diet would ruin our immune systems, and the health of the soil, without animal fertilizer.

                And we haven’t even started on the effects of Glyphosate yet!

  • NeilBrü@lemmy.world
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    I eat beef (occasionally) due to its excellent flavor, versatility in cuisine, and high complex protein density.

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    The USA has abundant farmland and the ability to feed its own citizens with its existing agriculture. Beef is tasty and I’m glad we have so many cows we can eat. If the rest of the world doesn’t like that they are free to eat as many bugs as they want.

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    Because people are selfish, stuck in their ways, and speciesist. Some are also ignorant

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    because not every country produce beef like you westerner. and not everyone eat beef everyday.

    go make your government ban beef like you ban palm oil if you really care about earth.

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      go make your government ban beef

      I would get them to end all subsidies for the beef industry if I could. Unfortunately I’m not in control of that, all I can do is bring up discussion, and I got you to comment, so I succeeded.