• sonofearth@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Eating beef (or any meat for that matter) isn’t harmful but “excessive consumption” of “industrially produced meat” is. And you shouldn’t cut out meat from your diet — our bodies need those nutrients.

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    2 years ago

    This might not be a “stupid” question, but it sure is a loaded and leading one that for sure isn’t in good faith. Welcome to my block list, enjoy your stay.

    • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.today
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      9 months ago

      That’s what I thought as well. It’s disgusting when someone leads and loads up a question with people who don’t understand critical thinking sometimes.

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    2 years ago

    Because not everyone agrees that it’s terrible for Earth. And even some of those that do may not consider it so terrible for Earth that it’s not worth the tastiness.

    You’re wasting electricity running a computer right now, when we know that electricity generation is terrible for Earth. Why are you doing that?

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      9 months ago

      I literally just called the uninformed position of “bad for the earth” out a little bit, and even have an anecdote of my positive personal experience eating meat. I get the sentiment for those who do eat meat, and get bullied just because they want to be healthy (while those who eat plants tend to have a lot of health issues, and can be overwight or obese by refined sugars, gluten, soy, seed oils and/or cow’s milk that’s GMO’d [a correlation some don’t seem to get]).

      Glad to see someone’s on a similar page about it, as that’s just some sort of silly thing to me.

  • Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    1 the amount of beef I eat is not a major contributer to the problem. No matter how hard I try. The actual major contributors what to distract people by telling them that they can make the difference. They can’t. 2 I don’t like plants… 3 the way the grow plants for food is also terrible for earth

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      2 years ago

      The major contributors only sell what people buy. They won’t stop so long as there’s money to be made. And most plants grown for food go to feed animals.

      You don’t like plants because you’re a big baby.

      So yeah, your arguments suck.

    • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.today
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      9 months ago

      Plants actually cause a lot of health problems. For example…

      • Wheat and other forms of gluten happened to strip Vitamin B3, causing schizophrenia.
      • Seed oils mess up your brain in ways I can’t even imagine.
      • Cow’s milk is unnecessary due to the way it’s pasteurized, as unpasteurized, raw milk (goat’s milk is really fantastic for my needs) is actually good for you (which is why it’s banned in some countries).
      • Soy is good at kickstarting the transgendering process, as it alters the estrogen-testosterone balance (for males, it ups estrogen, where testosterone is upped for females who eat soy a lot)
      • Refined sugars actually cause a lot of issues, like diabetes (it dries up the liver), cancer (refined sugars are an excellent food source for parasites and polyps), obesity (sugar gets turned into visceral fat, and causes one to gain that), and a myriad of other issues.

      Do we see why I tend to eat beef a lot, and avoid these feed ingredients whenever I eat certain plants?

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        9 months ago

        You started out decent, then went off the deepend. You are connecting plants to refined sugars in the end. An apple (from a plant) has no refined sugar. No plants do. And the milk thing sounds like a conspiracy theory. They ban raw milk because if it isn’t handled correctly, it can make you sick. While this is a bit of an over reach, in most places it started long before thier was an industry to protect.

        • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.today
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          9 months ago

          What you did was take my comment slightly out of context. Fruit doesn’t have refined sugars, though they have fructose (which is a sugar that’s unrefined). If someone eats fruit, and they’re not of the body type to do that, health problems could arise from it. What I was doing was paraphrasing from studies I’ve read on each of the things here that I’ve gone ahead and researched myself.

          As for the milk thing, why do you think an Amish farmer was being railroaded for selling raw milk? That’s because raw milk, when handled properly, is fantastic for the body without the need for it to be pasteurized. That’s what he was doing, and daddy government didn’t like that one bit, so they wanted to pull a ritual on him just to ensure they get the message of “raw milk bad”. The goat’s milk cheese I eat comes from raw goat milk, and I do fine with it, in my experience. Your mileage may vary.

  • Regalia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 years ago

    I have a eating disorder so most vegetables make me retch, so I kind of don’t have a choice.

    Also companies do way more emissions than I ever will, yet I’m asked to stop.

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        8 months ago

        Carnivore diet is a weird way to phrase it, it really depends on the consistency of the food, but I do mostly eat meat because it causes the least problems.

    • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.today
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      9 months ago

      Carnivore is fantastic for those who need to heal from health issues. It’s expensive if you don’t know what you’re doing, but it’s worth it once you study it.

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        7 months ago

        Helping heal me. Yup.

        Expensive?

        Turns out cheaper in my experience. Not buying all the rest of that low nutrient cruft.

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          6 months ago

          If you consider nutrient bio-availability, eating meat is order of magnitudes cheaper for the nutrition we’re getting. It’s a no-brainer if only people would give it a go.

          Humans make methane too, btw, if we eat vegetables. Much, much less on carnivore in my personal experience, and I’ve not found any studies on environmental impact that even attempt to factor this in.

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          7 months ago

          I’ve been attempting to fix that as well. The biggest contributor, I think, is linoleic acid in seed oils. Once you get through that hurdle, everything else should fit into place (cutting the soy, gluten and cow’s milk if autistic, refined sugars, and of course, seed oils).

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            7 months ago

            Indeed, good shortlist.

            I’d like to test reintroducing cow’s milk, as not pasteurized, raw. No source here though, afaik. Tried Jersey cow’s milk once, and it was fine, tried it a second time, and it was a hard fail. Goat and sheep, meh.

            Your mention of “if autistic”, has me wonder about my fairly large ghee consumption.

            Actually autistic, btw.

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              7 months ago

              I happened to be legitimately autistic myself (diagnosed as such). Cow’s milk and gluten will not treat someone with autism very well, gluten due to leaky gut, and cow’s milk due to how it’s structured. Goat’s milk and sheep’s milk will do very well for those with autism (I can attest to that, as I consume goat’s milk in a butter from Meyenberg I use a lot).

              As for ghee, that’s also okay, as it’s just the casein (both A1 and A2, whereas the A1 is your “lactose intolerance”) stripped out. Lactose too, though, again, that’s A1 casein.

  • isekaihero@ani.social
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    2 months ago

    The USA has abundant farmland and the ability to feed its own citizens with its existing agriculture. Beef is tasty and I’m glad we have so many cows we can eat. If the rest of the world doesn’t like that they are free to eat as many bugs as they want.

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    2 years ago

    Because people are selfish, stuck in their ways, and speciesist. Some are also ignorant

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    2 years ago

    because not every country produce beef like you westerner. and not everyone eat beef everyday.

    go make your government ban beef like you ban palm oil if you really care about earth.

    • 3volver@lemmy.worldOP
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      2 years ago

      go make your government ban beef

      I would get them to end all subsidies for the beef industry if I could. Unfortunately I’m not in control of that, all I can do is bring up discussion, and I got you to comment, so I succeeded.

  • Mugita Sokio@lemmy.today
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    9 months ago

    That’s because, if done right and from the right source, certain meats are actually good for the human body.

    Anybody who thinks that heart disease comes from eating meat does not understand that, despite the amount of research on it, meat cannot be considered to be bad for anyone’s health. Those that do have some research on it are going based upon flukes, fraud and lies, likely spread by witches and warlocks. I personally eat organic meat myself, and I have no health issues because of what I eat.

    As they say… “you are what you eat”. Also, I eat meat so vegans and vegetarians can have an easier time not eating meat. In a way, I’m helping them in some sense (as far as I’m aware, but I could be wrong on that).

  • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Where I live the beef is local and cheap. I’m not able to obtain enough protein without meat, as confirmed by a doctor and a nutritionist when I tried to go vegetarian. With food costs so high it’s cheaper to buy cow than anything else, but when I have the money I opt for fish or turkey. I looked into hunting but it’s prohibitively expensive for me with permits, tags, guns, licenses, days off and transportation. I tried fishing for myself as well, but whenever I get time to do it, there are warnings about eating fish in the area. When there aren’t I never catch anything big enough to legally be allowed to keep. I’d like to get chickens if/when local government ever lifts the bylaws preventing it.