That would be a HUGE Conflict of Interest if he was also a Government Official overseeing things like Regulation and Contracts! Intel would be his THIRD or FOURTH or FIFTH company that would rely on Government Funding!
As if republicans would care…
I don’t see how Qualcomm buying Intel ever flies when Nvidia was blocked from buying ARM.
Corruption
Imagine being a business willing to risk everything getting involved with this lunatic lol
If businesses nowadays were people we’d have interventions for them or lock them up for their own sake.
Elon has money, intel needs money
Of course Elon Musk wants his grubby hands on the Arizona chip factory.
If Leon buys Intel, then I will switch permanently to AMD or the loser is playing with the market.
That’s a ally reason to pick a piece of tech IMO. I buy exclusively AMD because they offer great value, especially since they support their sockets for a long time. For their GPUs, they have fantastic drivers on Linux.
I honestly don’t care who owns them, I care that the quality is good for the price. I don’t find that to be true for Tesla, so I don’t own one. If he buys Intel, that won’t change my opinion of their products, I’ll still avoid them because he value isn’t there.
switch permanently to AMD
So glad I switched to AM5 on my last main gaming rig rebuild last year lol
So he’ll pay again twice the amount of money, then run the company off a bigger cliff than it’s currently falling off already?
I’ll heat up the popcorn
This rumor sounds like a crypto pump and dump.
Please buy Intel stock so we can sell ours!!
Sounds terrible. I’m sure it’ll happen cuz we live in hell.
CLOWN WORLD
Multiple Cores.
Overclocked
Computers is a fucking hot song, the drums are on point, the buildup and energy screeching about vr porn, the singularity and black holes until it all halts for a sax solo. Don’t forget 3G.
You lot in the states need more of this and less of diddly tromp.
If Intel didn’t have yield issues for over a decade, wouldn’t they be much further ahead than AMD by now?
Kinda weird how their production problems conveniently coincide with what will keep them “neck n’ neck” with the competition for as long as possible.
Intel made some massive mistakes with their post 14nm nodes, they overextended and fell on their own sword.
Admittedly what Intel were aiming for with their “10nm” node had higher density than tsmc’s “7nm” (from memory), considering the timeframe that would have been another massive leap for Intel; and if they had pulled it off AMD would be struggling like the bulldozer days.
22nm to 14nm Intel were on fire, almost seemed untouchable for quite some time. X99 was (in my eyes) the biggest leap in the right direction and probably their best consumer platform ever released. Huge cache, moar cores, pcie lanes for days and a refresh on their latest node (6950x).
AMD: “Go for it!”
I thought the cross licensing deal between AMD and Intel basically collapses if one gets bought out?
So intel wouldn’t be able to make 64 bit processors any more?
Right?! RIP Intel haha
No responsible board should sell as much as a paper clip to this sociopathic weenis piss baby.
Ultimately, the board doesn’t control who can buy stock.
Now give me an example of a corporate board at Intel’s scale being responsible when given the choice between being responsible or buttloads of short-term profits.
this is the company that at one time chose to buy mcafee.
But why!?
McAfee was a solid product in the beginning, it turned to crap after it’s admittedly crazy founder sold it off.
Yeah, dude is straight bat shit, but he made a good product. Buying McAfee wasn’t the mistake, ruining it was
I’d bet money McAfee has destroy more registries then it has protected.
Who gave him access to regex.exe?
What? It worked out for Twitter shareholders though.
What bothers me about all these political posts is when people act surprised when profit seeking people act purely in their self interest.
I agree it’s bad, but it’s weird to be constantly mad about things so obvious like parasites acting parasitically.
Responsibility, shockingly, can refer to more than making money.
I thought the weenis was a dance?
I thought it was the skin of the elbow.
I can lick my own weenis.
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Is there a way to hide images on lemmy?
These are very annoying and obnoxious.
Responsible to who?
Of course they will sell if there’s a profit to be made. Companies exist to make profits, if they can make a profit from it, it’s actually their responsibility to the shareholders to do it.Maybe you mean responsible in some way that has to do with morals, but if you think morals apart from staying within the law, have any say in this whatsoever, you are being very naive. That’s not at all how the system works.
That said I don’t see any other way than corruption for Musk to be interested. Musk buys Intel, and Trump doubles the subsidies to Intel and give them extra sweet government contracts. And everybody profit, except the stupid taxpayers including those that voted Trump.
Only the law helps super capitalist narcissists to stay at least somewhat within moral norms.
And in USA the law doesn’t even count anymore. So there you go, everything is fucked up, until Americans figure it out. Which means it will be fucked up for a loooong time.
They have to old slogan of intel inside ready to be rebranded as incel inside
This was always the inevitable outcome of capitalism. Just some rich lying dipshit buying the world.
I think elons would be needed to be broken down by government like the Rockefellers.
Yeah.
And there’s a very good chance that Elon spends his waning years in and out of every court, trying to stay out of jail.
Source: Rockefeller’s biography.
And that’s actually the optimistic version, from Elon’s perspective. There’s been plenty of rich assholes in history that didn’t have to worry about the courts.
Epstein doesn’t have to worry about the courts anymore
Not doing to happen in this political climate. The robber barons has nothing in the tech companies.
I mean really depends whether or not he manages to continue to succesfully own the US government. He made basically statements along the lines of if trump loses the election he could go to jail. I assume he’s betting on either the trump administration killing democracy… or being able to buy the next election too. Or perhaps just often enough that the supreme court never gets fixed.
Yeah. Rockefeller pretty much owned the government in his heyday, too.
And then at some point he didn’t anymore. Money can buy power, but it does run out eventually.
Rockefeller was a lot smarter than Musk, and got a bit ahead of it with publicity stunt donations, before his influence ran out.
Musk thinks he can achieve a better outcome by controlling the media or the courts.
I think it’s objectively true that controlling the media does work, but I also think Musk wildly overestimates his own competence, and is in for a worse time than Rockefeller had.
Musk-busting?
He hasn’t bought it yet, maybe everyone else will stay buying Intel stocks after this news and it’ll get too expensive for him.
Isn’t he busy enough buying the United States right now?
I thought that was bought and paid for already.
It’s more of an ongoing project.
He went with the subscription based license instead of the full purchase
Yep. Citizens’ United guaranteed that by allowing corporations to funnel an unlimited amount of money into campaigns.
Just a heads up, if
spendingwasting egregious amounts of money didn’t influence the outcome of elections, why would people do it?
That’s one way to finally kill x86.
x86 is already dead yo
edit: downvoters don’t understand they are using amd64 and not x86 lol wtf
edit 2: downvoters of this comment are computer-illiterate
x86 is the architecture, amd64 is an extention on that architecture so it’s still x86 just with an instruction set extension that allows for native 64 bit computing.
x86 was designed to be nearly fully backwards compatible back to the i386 or even the 8086 so whatever code that could run on those CPUs would work on modern “amd64” CPUs.
Pretty much x86 is a snowball rolling down a hill. It keeps picking up new things and growing as time goes on but the core of it will always be the same.
It’s very much not? It’s not even certain if an alternative architecture will ever fully replace it
To me x86 is currently in similar position to internal combustion engine cars. We are already almost certain some of the alternatives available right now are better.
The reason ICE/x86 seem better is that they have the benefit of being greatly optimised due to years of market dominance pulling billions if not trillions of dollars into research. Some company has to sacrifice a lot of money to get the ball rolling on new tech as it is very difficult for an emerging technology to break old tech dominance. However considering Apple seems to be pulling similar numbers on a way less developed architecture I d say we might be close.
I don’t know enough about the subjects to go into details, but I know enough to say that that is reductive. ARM/alternatives are not inherently better, at least not universally. And, especially because of the inertia, I do not expect x86 to be fully replaced on the desktop any time soon. The motivations behind companies such as Apple using ARM likely have more to do with licensing than anything else
It’s probably more useful to think of x86 and ARM as slightly different tools that are slightly better suited to different tasks. Desktop, server (and possibly high-performance) computing are x86’s specialty, and I do not expect it to be replaced
All-in-all, from what I know, the practical differences between ARM and x86 are nowhere near large enough to be compared to something like the electric vs internal combustion engine. It’s probably closer to a difference of, say, a typical train and a subway
But, please read up on this yourself. I am not an expert in hardware, this is just what i casually picked up as a layperson
Here is the way I understand it:
Microsoft got to be as big as it is because they were the ones sitting at the table when IBM made the biggest whoopsie in all of business. They negotiated a non-exclusive license to MS-DOS for the Intel Reference Design PC they were slapping together. The only thing that was proprietary to IBM about the 5150 PC was the BIOS. Well other companies like Compaq engineered a non-infringing BIOS and were able to bring a 100% compatible competitor to the market. That, plus Intel being required to license the x86 architecture to AMD so that there could be second party suppliers
ifwhen Intel shit the bucket, made the PC a mostly open platform. Many companies made or make PCs, lots of companies publish software for Windows (or DOS before it).I will continue to call even modern PCs “x86”, mostly to hurt sepi’s feelings at this point.
Apple, meanwhile, maintains a death grip on their vertically integrated empire. Only they sell the hardware, only they distribute the operating system, they either make the software in-house or vendors must work closely with them to publish software on their stores.
Then you’ve got Linux, who showed up and used whatever hardware was available.
Windows on x86 PCs is a closed source, open ecosystem. You can cobble the hardware together from a number of vendors, and software is usually distributed as closed source pre-compiled binaries–compiled for x86 or later, sometimes with in-line handwritten assembly. An anti-competitive streak plus the complacency that comes with being a big successful business has made Microsoft unable to realistically make a platform switch. They used the difficulty of decompiling compiled binaries as a method of copy protection for too long, and now important people NEED very old software to work on new hardware and all the loose standards are so ugly that no it’s really not plausible to make Windows for ARM without breaking a lot of legacy applications. Just in gaming. Think of how many games are out there that the publishers are either defunct or just moved on from their old games. The source code is gone or they were made in an old version of Unity that requires features that don’t work anymore so even if you have the old project files it’s difficult if not impossible to work on anymore, so how many games would Microsoft orphan if they said “Oops all ARM now?” And then it’s not just gaming, it’s all the MRI machines and city transit systems and airport systems and banks and credit cards that were built for some old version of Windows and are still in use as they were…they just…can’t abandon the x86 architecture.
Apple is a closed source closed ecosystem. It has such a firm grip on both the hardware itself and the APIs that third party software developers may use that they can accomplish “We’re switching from Motorola PowerPC to Intel x86 now” or “We’re switching from Intel x86 to AppleSilicon ARM now.” They can make the same toolchains output to different architectures or write working translation layers like Rosetta to get those transitions made relatively seamlessly for end users. It does mean you’re locked into one hardware vendor and pretty much one software source.
Linux is an open source, open ecosystem. The second a new architecture is added to GCC, Linux will be compiled for it. Debian Linux for RISC-V was available before there was silicon to run it on. Because most software for Linux is open source, anyone who wants to can compile it for different architectures. Most of Desktop End User Linux is de facto on x86 PCs designed for Windows is because that’s the hardware that’s widely commercially available. There is the problem that things like Wine and Proton don’t bridge the gap between architectures so people playing Windows games on Linux will have the same issue that Windows does on ARM hardware, but the open source ecosystem itself can just slide around.
x86 is dead. Has been for years. You’ve been using amd64. I am not referring to ARM
Differenciating amd64 as a different architecture is pedantry and in virtually all cases not useful for discussion.
I hat if I’m running a 32bit OS?
This is how capitalism shoots itself in the foot. It’s not actually the best system for progressing as quickly as possible.
x86 has been dead for years and you have been using amd64
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x86 has been dead for years. y’all are using amd64. Or do y’all not know the difference?
Which is a superset of x86; my AMD gaming machine can trace its roots all the way back to the IBM-5150.
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good point. It still makes me smile how that one went down. imagine if we were all on f’ing itanium instead.
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What are you smoking lmao
What are you smoking? x86 has been gone for years. Y’all are using amd64.
It’s always amusing when someone thinks they know something, then aggressively tells others, only to be wrong.
amd64, also known as x86_64 is an extension to x86. It’s still x86 in kinda the same way a car is still a car even if you bolt a trailer onto it.
x86_64 ?
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Mixed feelings about this as someone with a relatively (per my portfolio) huge investment in Intel. It would result, eventually, in the end of Intel. But so many dumb people with so much money keep throwing money at his crap companies so it might work out in the short term to get out with a profit.
If he buys intel surely he is buying your investment in intel to do so?
On the social media front Elon literally knows nothing, but it’s impossible to deny that he hasn’t helped build 2 companies that know how to manufacturer complex hardware at scale. To deny that just shows ignorance.
So while Intel has so many problems, and there’s the whole politics disaster side of things, he might not actually cause the end of Intel from a hardware perspective.
I don’t know that he has helped build anything. He has helped hype 2 companies.
He did great PR when someone was managing him, but recently his PR is poison.
SpaceX is managed by someone competent, musk has - quite frankly - little to do with the company.
Tesla is riding the hype from before musk took off the mask. I give them 4 years, tops. If it’s not already on the way down.Intel needs to be run and managed by engineers. That’s what we want from core components. Not hype, not bubbles, not marketing speak, not fancy names and confusing part numbers. We want actual engineers who have thought through the implications of their decisions all the way to the end consumer. We want hardware that works and is predictable.
Tom Mueller the person who was at SpaceX at the start would wholly disagree with you and says so online, as have other people, but instead people just say they are saving face and rely on anonymous sources to say he does jack all.
So like I said, ignorance.
It’s blissful sure, but it’s ignorance.
Edit: there are plenty of reasons to hate and dunk on the dude, but people love to enhance it with stuff like he doesn’t and never did do anything to make their hate seem even more worthy. All it does though is make you look ignorant.
Youre going to short it?
I think the point is the stock would actually go up if Musk buys it because people think he’s a great businessman, despite all the evidence to the country. So no need to short it, just sell at the peak and duck out before he manages to crash and burn. Again.
Alternatively it could go up and up, Tesla style, as confusing as that is…
I only have a very passing interest in the stock market and that’s only because I have my pension as relatively high risk stock (it’s not really that high of a risk, that’s just what they call it).
But in the world with Apple, Google and and the traditional big car manufacturers, why on Earth when anyone invest in Tesla?
I agree. I keep hearing how terrible their cars are and we all know how much of a loon he is…surely anyone with any business sense would stay well away from that company, or companies affiliated with Musk? But what do I know…
Reads more like the investment tanked and he’s hoping for a recovery.
Shorting sounds nice though, long term.
