Translation “Who cares about your dependents, die for the revolution pussy that way the government can use you as an excuse to persecute your minority group harder!”
My response will always be congrats for being born in the right country asshole!
I sometimes think that violence is seen as the easier answer. It is short term thinking, a big risk for an immediate possible reward versus a brutally long marathon of effort needed to enact real change non-violently. Statistically the long slog is the correct choice though.
You cannot keep fighting if you are dead from a violent act, but if you get up and apply pressure everyday it will add up. Be a warrior of great and enduring patience. Get up when you fail and try again. Learn and live a long time. And other words of motivation that are written on white ladies kitchen walls.
Sure but peaceful protest barley works. Even the people who notices the 3.5% of population do sustained protests. Noticed it is working less as time goes on.
I think my favorite was when Twitter showed country of origin and a lot of the “don’t vote, it doesn’t matter” people strangely were not from the US. Very curious. I’m extremely wary of astroturfing now.
Just like all the separatists for my province.
Americans are all talk no balls
Texan here. I agree. We need to finish the civil war, but discussing that is forbidden. Sherman didn’t finish the job and now we have concentration camps.
Well if Americans haven’t made such a big deal about needing their precious second amendment to protect themselves from over reaching governments. I mean kind of dug your own hole their.
Pacifism is worthless, your alternative solutions are worthless, when someone else eventually does the fighting for you you’re going to lie through your teeth and pretend you were behind them the whole time.
No one would ever save us from our conservatives. If we won’t ---- them, they just will ---- us. The civil war will eventually be finished, one way or the other.
Your not even brave enough to say kill or violence.
Check my post history and mod log. You see all those removed comments and community bans? Those are all for calling for violence against conservatives. I openly advocate for violence. I do this in public. Loudly. I am pretty sure I’m not safe to be around.
I can’t spell it out on lemmy or the comment gets removed and I sometimes get banned. This is not a place to organize or discuss reasonable solutions to an infestation of conservative cockroaches.
I frequently advocate for vi----ce against conservatives from within the U.S. I believe it’s possible to mass delete nazis and engage in vi----ce against them without ever violating any laws. Speaking about properly finishing the civil war almost always results in those comments being removed or, in some cases, me being banned from the community.
I don’t think being trolled is the problem. I think not being able to discuss the only viable solutions to an infestation of conservatives is the problem. We’re being made fun of for not [redacted] conservatives. They are right. We won’t even discuss it.
The solution to the conservative problem is to not have conservatives. But discussing how we arrive at that solution is forbidden speech.
Calm down there, Robespierre
“Stay calm” is what conservatives told their victims as they took them to concentration camps in the 40’s. No thanks.
You know this is lemmy you can say violence. Man what have massive corporations done to people that shit like this is normal the worst is people saying unalive in person.
Please check my post history and see for yourself that I cannot say a fucking thing about harming any precious little conservative cockroaches. All of those removed comments and community bans are for advocating for the d—hs of conservatives. Even broadly referring to a solution for the infestation gets the comment removed. This is not a place to organize or share reasonable options for actual resistance.
Because you’re telling others to do it. You do what you want, just let others come to their own conclusions.
Because I’m telling others to organize against conservatives? But, that’s how we organize. I’m inviting them to organize along with me. That’s a bit different than just “telling others to do it”. Same goes for invitations to organize violent resistance as well. We must be able to invite others to participate with us in order to organize anything. Solo actors do not get much accomplished.
Soooo, what is your plan to organize? Lay it all out. Are you doing a meetup or what?
We both know you’re spewing all bullshit to get others to start chaos in the US.
Omfg. Look at my post history. Look at my mod logs. You see all those removed comments and bans? That’s from trying to organize violent resistance. It always gets removed. Always. Go ahead. Give it a shot yourself. I’ll wait.
If you attempt to advise others on Lemmy how to organize violent resistance, your comment WILL be removed and you will eventually be banned if you keep trying. And then, some (probably well-meaning) asshat will come along and insist you never try. We need a better way to organize than this.
You want to be the captain of a suicide brigade? You’re a strange dude.
It won’t be a suicide brigade if we can organize a large enough movement. Also, I’m pretty confident I’ll die in a concentration camp if we don’t fight. So, which death shall it be? The honorable one or the tortured one? Conservatives will never stop. We must surpass that aggression.
You’re not being wise about this. I’ll just leave it at that.
Song of the coward right here.
Pacifism is lovely and all, but it’s not all “dubious foreign instigators”.
I think most Europeans are just bemused at this point. The country that has been for decades defending its very specific constitutional amendment, about everyone having easy access to guns in order to fight tyranny, would then so easily capitulate to tyranny.
The country that has been for decades defending its very specific constitutional amendment, about everyone having easy access to guns in order to fight tyranny, would then so easily capitulate to tyranny.
Boy, do you not understand the nuances. Europe has their own problems right now and should watch out for the same thing happening there. The ones screaming about 1st Amendment and 2A are the fascists and currently the ones ruining our country. They say and do what they want, ya know, cause they’re fascists. Also, they cheat and even bragged about cheating.
Sure but the “non fascists” don’t have the guts to actually do anything when they are in power. Cause there are no non fascists in the oligarch. Both parties are bought and sold by corporations.
The biggest lie everyone is telling themselves right now is that once Trump is out we well get back to “normal” and that is not going to happen.
Americans LOVE ARGUING NUANCE. The point is you have access to the 2A as much as the fascist but you choose to sit on your asses!
Then, where are you from that you take arms up against your government and win?
They have stated that they live in California
I’m pretty sure you’re just deflecting. Maybe the better question is what other country has the 2nd amendment type right? What other country allowed so much carnage against children for the sake of preserving a right to own guns?
You’re American and you’ve done nothing but shitpost online about it lmao.
Hey check out my community SHITHOLE USA
I’ll love showing you disgusting Americans in your garbage environment
They’ll be posting selfies, ladies and gents.
What do you consider yourself? Like what nationality, if not American
Ah my hater is here. Fucking pathetic. I’m glad I got a following though. Hope you enjoy my posts. I’ll be shitting on you worthless child murdering pedophile protectors from now on. I know it triggers you. 😂😂✌️ ENJOY
I love engaging with trolls. I troll on here frequently. The part I’m particularly enjoying is trying to figure out if you’re just a troll, completely mentally unwell or most likely projecting because in reality you’re a big Trump person and love pedophiles. So posting this way serves to erode legitimacy of actual criticisms. A user like you can be pointed at as “look see how crazy the oposition is”.
You’re hilariously bad at this.
Ah the typical American response.
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One of the fundamental falsehoods that is being pushed, and not just by foreign propaganda, is that revolution can only be violent. If we were able to organize crippling work shutdowns we would start to see results. The oligarchs still require a great deal of human labor to get what they want. The public could, theoretically, withdraw that and use it as leverage to move things back toward wealth equity. The problem is that it requires a greater consensus that we have been able to achieve, at least so far.
Could do sustained protests, could do a general strike, hell Americans consume so much even a “buying” freeze would probably get their attention cause it hurts theirs stock price. The problem is people are also selfish so organizing anything is next to impossible.
I upvoted for the hopeful sentiments, but I don’t think strikes alone can defeat conservatism. I really do think violence is required, unfortunately. We are in this situation because we didn’t finish the violent ending of the civil war. We let conservatives live and now we have concentration camps.
What about legislation that makes it illegal to strike like when the rail workers wanted to strike under Biden?
Carney is passing similar legislation in Canada.
It isn’t surprising when a government makes the methods for opposing it illegal. That increases the risk involved, but it does not change the reasons for doing it or the effectiveness of those tactics. It isn’t a matter of, “well, we might as well kill people, if both are illegal”. There are a lot of reasons for preferring non-violent protest, beyond legality. It comes down to figuring out what is most likely to cause the change we want to see.
And if it’s illegal, and people still strike, what would be the outcome?
It would still cripple capital production
And historically, what has happened when people went on strike despite the government not condoning it? Plenty of examples to choose from
LOL either you’re cherry picking or really don’t know the history that led to the Bolshevik revolution.
You know what the Putilov Strike was preceded by? The Bloody Sunday revolution. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1905)
From your article:
There were several strikes involving the workers of the Putilov Mill over the years with the first one taking place in 1905, yet this particular strike in 1917 is considered the catalyst which sparked the February Revolution.
You know what happened after the February revolution right? Right?!
The October revolution! Many deaths.
This is what happens to strikes that are deemed illegal by the government:
Violence happened. Be honest.
I’d say that’s true, but calling it a revolution waters down what the trolls are saying. I would put “crippling work shutdowns” in the work protest section to keep it clear.
A lot of foreign people telling us to get violent without organizing just want to see dead USA citizens despite any political persuasion. Rebellion is needed but those people can fuck right off.
Many of us want to rise up, but any discussion of that is forbidden on Lemmy. Discussing a proper solution to an infestation of conservatives will get you banned from Lemmy communities. Meanwhile, conservative platforms permit their discussions of how to delete us.
We need a way to communicate and organize against conservatives or we will just be randomly committing violence without any direction, cohesion or purpose. This will result in conservatives slaughtering us. What platform is available that will allow us to properly organize against conservatives?
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Agreed! I’m honestly surprised this comment hasn’t been removed yet. I’ve been banned from communities for making very similar comments. We need to be able to openly discuss how to solve the problem of conservatives existing in order to solve the problem of conservatives existing.
Couldn’t be me. I need to find out who on this internet board is a Nazi and be seen by everyone saying “Nazis are bad”.
There are hidden Nazis everywhere though! Aka liBz
Right? I swear this site has the equivalent of those Ww2 soldiers holding out in the Philippines, still fighting a cultural conversation that ended back in 2018
There are Nazis running America and Israel right now, the hell you mean it ended in 2018?
My bad. I just forgot all the Nazi regimes that calling people Nazi on the internet has stopped. I guess we have to or else Trump might win again
The real doom loop:
- “Hey maybe we should try voting and boycotting companies?”
- “That will never work only violence works!”
- Some mentally unwell person shoots some people
- More fascist stuff is done as a response
- Go back to step 1
The revolutionary LARPers are in a symbiotic relationship with the fascists they clam to oppose.
Project 2025 never though their would be violence. Their plan was the next civil war would be bloodless and so far they are right. Maybe at some point they well go too far but who knows well be interesting to see at least.
Be careful. If you suggest organizing an actual solution to the infestation of conservatives, you could get banned from a community. At minimum, your comments will be removed. Which brings us back to step one.
Let’s be real though, the military right now would have no problem mowing down anyone giving a hint of pushback. They already have, look at Alex Pretti and Renee Good. It’s part of their “liberal tears” shtick.
Minnesota is the perfect example on how to do it. They did a fantastic job. They still lost too many.
And conservatives still exist there and can harm the normal people whenever they like. We didn’t really win anything when the enemy is still alive and operating.
You mean ICE? Not really the same as the military.
In my observation: many Americans are resisting. The ones that are, even nonviolently are not cowards by any measure.
The ones that are continuing to support neoliberalism are weak. Revolution can’t happen if they continue to obey their programming.
America being trolled
You’re not far off tbh
