Bos has two daughters, with a third due in January. At the grocery store, five items cost as much as a full cart once did. And on Wednesday, Bos and nearly 1,400 other people were laid off from their jobs at what had been the Navistar truck factory in southwestern Ohio.
Asked how many times he had voted for Trump, Bos held up three tattooed fingers. But he said he’s done with the president.
Sipping tea from beer mugs with his co-workers…
What the fuck??? Who does that? The lead photo in the article clearly shows them drinking beer. Such a weird sentence.
Needs to mention excuse Navistar gave for layoffs.
Bos can explain to his family how he’s so fucking stupid he made sure this is what would happen to them.
If that happens 3 OR 4 HUNDRED MORE TIMES they MIGHT start to MAYBE Reconsider voting for Republicans!
they just vote for R harder, if the derailment in 2023, dint affect them, this wont either. especially with the gov running interference in omitting any bad news in the state.
Well then the rally should have an even higher turn out then.
is there an “leopards ate my face” community in lemmyverse? This is premium leopard food.
c/lostlemmings
reddit has a varaint for FARMS too. im guessing it was large enough issue that it can be seperated into its own community.
You’re in it bud.
In the end, it’s always the fucking suits.
I see a lot of people like this being treated with total contempt, which is your right, but a few things to keep in mind.
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Please remember 70% of voters are not Democrat. Democrats are 30% of voters, Republicans 30% of voters, and Independents are 40% of voters. Insulting and celebrating the hardships and deaths of those who don’t agree with you is a very bad look, and won’t convince anyone that your minority party (Democrats) is the cure.
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Very few people are actually informed. Their entire waking life can be their job and children. Spare time is spent in non-political activities, like watching a goofy show. Many people are juggling multiple jobs and don’t have a lot of spare time to research politics or history. Maybe zero time. So they go with their gut. (this is often wrong, but remains true). Make it easy for their gut.
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Keep in mind that you require independent voters to win every federal election. Would you like to win an election? Then you better get some Independent votes. Insulting and humiliating others does absolutely nothing for you. You could be totally right, your anger might be well founded, but it doesn’t help you.
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Do you agree that there are a significant amount of stupid people? These stupid people don’t like being called stupid, and take this all very seriously. You want the votes of stupid people. Would you like stupid people to vote for your party? Spending your days mocking and insulting anonymously can be a lot of fun, but it’s no way to WIN.
This is a big election upcoming, go out and vote! … and if you’re up for it, maybe try to be kind to a voter or three. It can only help your cause. Contempt hurts you.
Agree overall but I gotta push back on your stats here. There are about 1.5x as many registered Democrats as there are registered Republicans in this country, and fewer centrists/independents than either group. American politics being super polarized means there aren’t very many centrists anymore, like at all. Literally the only reason Republicans ever win anything is voter suppression, nothing about their program is particularly popular amongst Americans.
I do not care about centrists, whether they want to say they are independents or whatever they want to go with. If the lack of fucks I have for them sends them to the right, they were gonba vote that way all along.
A lot of people voted for Trump knowing what he would do, but they didn’t think it would affect them. And if trump would “fix” things for them, they will go back to being happy pigs while watching others suffer. This was always about owning the libs, anyway.
They had a taste of Trump 1.0 and they still voted for Trump 2.0. That second or third time wasn’t a mistake. They knew what he was and they said they were ok with a moronic rapist pedo bully with narcissistic tendencies to having the nuke codes. People like this are not good people and I’m not going to sugarcoat it for them. They will vote red no matter how much you lick their boots, so fuck that.
It’s okay for you to not care about them.
But, don’t be surprised when they don’t care about you.
First, you must learn that centrists and independents are two different things. Independent is an even bigger tent than the D party, it includes centrists within, but includes everybody else, too, like socialists. They’re not centrists, don’t be ridiculous.
Next, you must learn that If you don’t serve the interests of that 40% of voters, you will lose. Their priority one interest is one that we all share, all 100% of us have this exact same interest. Money. We all need money in the USA. It’s our common denominator.
You’re outnumbered and doing the rookie thing, and gotta up those numbers. Hostility is not your friend. Be honest… if you want to sell something, you don’t insult the buyer, do you? You don’t have to sugarcoat or lick their boots or anything.
Do the math. If the 40% of independents were centrists or red voters, you’d never win any election, ever. But you do win elections, because they’re not centrists or red voters. Come on now
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He was fine with this happening to families other than his. I hope it gets worse for him.
Same, they don’t learn any other way.
“somehow, this is actually [Biden’s] fault”
That’s where we should be different. We should want them to see the error of their ways, but we shouldn’t want anybody to struggle to get food on the plate.
We should want them to see the error of their ways
a significant number of them are incapable.
I did. I still do want everyone to eat, and that’s why I vote blue. But if they want red and the misfortunes they bring, that’s on them. 🤷🏽♀️
They had plenty of time for that BEFORE causing all of the damage that they did. No forgetting, no forgiveness.
Zero sympathy for the MAGA turds. They voted for the shit, now eat it.
I used to fish with my dad in a creak/river than ran behind a different Navistar location. Freaky perch were not rare. No idea what they were dumping in that water (or I guess someone upstream; I can’t prove it was them, but I don’t recall it from other parts upstream).
“This year’s election is a test for the working-class coalition that lifted Trump into the White House and gave majorities to Republicans in the House and Senate” - the under-educated coalition? This is the only reason working class would vote Republican. Oh, hold on, bigotry too.
“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.” - Lyndon B. Johnson
I always think LBJ is the best anti-hero we’ve seen. He’s crass and rambunctious but willing sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good. While most politicians are afraid to alienate a huge portion of voters, he’s willing to alienate the Southern voters to legislate the Civil Rights Act because who cares about racists.
willing to sacrifice his own career to uplift a cause for the greater good
I recommend reading Caro’s biography series on LBJ. I think you would find this statement to be not accurate. He was willing to alienate (white) Southern voters because his one overarching goal in life was to be (and to stay) President and (white) Southern voters were never numerous enough to ensure that. To his credit, LBJ seemed to be very much not racist personally, but fixing racism was never a goal of his.
Misinformation too.
Remember, none of us, even those of us on Lemmy, have ingested the same news and headlines.
Sure, there are shared overlaps in forums like these or among those who, maybe, only listen to Tucker Carlson and branch out from there for their worldly info.
Never assume other people know what you know. Let go of the belief that all the egregious shit you’ve read on Trump has been read by everyone, because it hasn’t.
There is no central news. No shared headlines.
Just TikTok, social media & its algorithms, and whatever podcasts/YouTube/NewsChannel we sporadically choose to consume on a level that most often resembles TikTok consumption.
We need an easily-digestible highlight reel of Trump crimes to show people.
It’s existed since he first announced running in like 2015. They do know about it and they don’t care.
Jordan Klepper has skits from the 2016 run through the attack on the capital where he would mingle with MAGAs when they gathered, because he looked like them. (Not much on the violent coup attempt, his fear in that crowd was evident, he grabbed footage at the edge then noped out).
He did get past the evade replies regarding bad things Trump was doing, occasionally, to the true reply which was exactly as you said: I don’t care.
We laugh at the evade replies because they’re so ridiculous, but the “I don’t care” is the real answer.
Exactly. We are so far beyond “do they know.” Imo these people should be culpable too to some degree. And I do have loved ones in the cult, which I’m sure we all do because it’s so massive.
We’re never going to get through this kind of shit if we keep giving fascists the benefit of the doubt. They will not give it to you and they applaud violence on innocent people, hate, inequality, etc.
There is no doubt on their side, why are we not listening to who these people are saying they are? They literally gloat about it. That’s what those hats became, very quickly. It’s a brag that they can be openly hateful now. Fuck that.
A lot of discussion/argument begins and ends with news source incompatibility so we don’t get down to “I don’t care” often.
I don’t care
In many cases, “I don’t care” really means “I don’t believe what you’re telling me but I don’t have the ability to refute it.”
I suspect the whole of it is a little of both.
Oh please. Its obviously ai generated fake news from the evil dumocrats
The problem is that explaining just how bad even his first term was already takes nearly twelve hours. And his second term has been much, much worse.
Hahahaha. Love knowing so many of these people will be homeless. Don’t expect me to give you a dollar - gotta pull yourself up!
Hatred is a funny thing. You eventually adopt the mentality of those you hate.
Those who hate cause others to hate them back. Love has never stamped out fascism.
I don’t think so. That’s their framing. If you are a hateful POS don’t be surprised when people hate you back. I look forward to their suffering for their choices.
You look forward to their suffering…
Paradox of tolerance
false dichotomy. the opposite of wishing someone ill is not tolerance.
Tolerance means letting someone make their own choices, it doesn’t cover what comes next. It’s a disservice to tolerance to conflate the two.
Oh yes i do. I want mass suffering.
That’s psychotic.
They only learn when they suffer. (When it finally affects them)
I haven’t seen evidence they learn regardless.
Showing kindness to those who don’t share their kindness with others will have you overworking for people who don’t care. They are, in a word, toxic. Toxic people don’t deserve the effort and grace given to them - they are to be met with the animosity they revel in showing others.
showing empathy to people who don’t share your empathy is toxic. it’s toxic empathy is what it is.
…some people make horseshoe theory look real attractive. but really it’s just wilhoit’s law in action. the only seemingly workable politics left is conservativism.
So we went from “enjoying the suffering of others” to “kindness is conditional”…
Look, I’m not going to be nice to the people who want me and my friends dead, alright?
No one’s asking you to? The problem is assuming that all 1400 people laid off are Trump supporters and wishing them ill by association. “All farmers deserve suffering because 80% off farmers are Trump supporters!”
70.98 % of voters in Springfield voted for the bastard. They can deal with the consequences they themselves wanted for others or they can fuck off, but I don’t care.
I just wish we had a man on the street in Springfield doing a YouTube daily video so other Ohio red counties could see what happens when you vote for cruelty.
Nobody in this thread says “all farmers” or implied all 1400 people deserve it. You’re being disengenous and arguing in bad faith.
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No what I’m saying is kindness is, indeed, conditional.
I’m sure for you it is.
Yes, they’re toxic and hateful, yes they don’t care, yes they don’t deserve it, but I would argue empathy and kindness is what sets us apart from them. I still want to improve the lives of everyone, whether they appreciate it or not. But our benevolence shouldn’t extend to allowing Republicans to remain in power…
The way to improve the lives of the hateful is to have them live the life they demand of others. It is speaking their language. If they don’t want to be treated as such they can change too. If or when they change I will be there to comfort and console them, to help them heal from their hate, but I am under no delusion that they will change from others being too nice to them. COVID shook that naivety from me.
Agree with you. I have plenty of empathy for them, I know they have none for me, but that quite literally is the difference. I won’t let go of that for hatred.
You can tell they were all Trump voters because they committed the sin of living in Ohio, a state where 43% of people voted Harris!
You can tell they are Trump voters cause the idiot said he voted for Trump three times? These people are just fucking idiots they don’t get any sympathy from me.
My aunt is posting on Facebook to Mike Johnson to reconsider the social security cuts. Get your lazy ass to work and stop asking for handouts.
Oh dang, everyone fired was 1400 clones of that guy? My bad, I didn’t realize.
Right? MAGA people just dont want to work.
They want to become professional victims and cry about why their kids wont talk to them anymore and they’re really a bunch of bitter miserable people that are mad the world got better but they didn’t.
They’re lazy and expect free stuff and think that because they’re old, everyone should bow to them.
Nah, we dont need them. Who wants to hear what a mean old cunts opinions are? I dont.
Oooooof Cuck porn
