• saltesc@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I don’t like talking about politics with Americans. They have their own political language that barely makes sense. It never gets anywhere because I think I’m just talking to whatever media or social media channels they got trained off.

    One could be called a socialist, a capitalist, or even a Nazi depending on who’s reading the comment, despite all being fundamentally insane conclusions to land on contextually.

    I know you’re certainly not all like that, but compared to the rest of the world, the percentages are much, much higher; enough to not even bother.

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      Americans tend to be kept from learning what socialism actually is, because then they might like it. I remember reading a 50’s World Book encyclopedia which essentially defined socialism as an autocratic dictatorship.

      I was told in school that if you lived in a socialist society, your job was picked out for you, basically from birth.

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      I remember being in school and having posters with things like “Ask Why?” To encourage critical thinking.

      I also remember it being controversial because kids should listen to their parents.

      That controversy is the answer.

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      I avoid talking about with family members or friends, because they often discuss it from a very low information point, and is very adamant they are right, then they get mad if you try to debunk which is true or not. i know a family member that recently became a trumper and he gets hostile when asked why he voted/supported trump. basically he doesnt want to think about it as well.

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        Heh. You just made me remember there’s a social stigma that political discourse is reserved for “the intellectuals”—it’s bullshit—so by expressing different ideas or opinions, someone can feel as though it’s first and foremost an attack on their intelligence.

        We live in a society where people just constantly disrespect each other so we’re so on guard that even the most respectful intentions don’t have a chance of getting through. These days it’s much harder to just talk and bounce ideas back and forth until a balance is found. We all have way more common ground than we do differences, but we don’t act that way

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          its like a hoarders mentality, out of sight out of mind, once they made that decision, they dump thier stuff they accumulate somewhere and dont want to think about the consequences, and you know what happens if you confront a hoarder.