“You study diligently, while I cheat and learn nothing” You’re goddamned right we’re not the same, and I hope I never slip to the level of quality this guy does. Chuds believing what this guy believes is job security for me.
Perfectly good approach if you know the subject well enough to know that the information you think you need is really what you need.
But if you were using a book in that scenario you wouldn’t open it to page 1 and spend 2 hours reading it. You would glance through the index or TOC to find the relevant section (or flip right to it because you’re familiar with the book), then skim to what you need and read just that. You could also do this with an entirely unfamiliar book if you know the subject matter. I used to write my papers like that all the time. Either way, this approach could easily take less time than crafting a good prompt and tweaking it for a second or third run to make it work.
Since the AI search is being compared with reading an entire book, it seems reasonable to assume OP is talking about a different scenario where they don’t know the subject well enough to use a simple search engine to simply look up a piece of information. They want to avoid learning the subject by having the AI teach them only the part they’re guessing is relevant. This scenario is asking for AI hallucinations, omission of subtle but important details through oversummarizing, and general inaccuracy that OP will be oblivious to since they don’t know the subject. OP might as well suggest browsing through memes.
Not knowing how to read isn’t the flex you think it is
I was jealous they read it in 2 hours. I’d spend 2 hours a night for a week to finish most books I enjoy reading.
Number of times I re-read the same paragraph because I got distracted worrying about bills - 7. That’s usually when I have to give up reading for the night when I finish that chapter.
Goodnight Moon takes them a bit more time to read.
Then proceeds to think the AI hallucinations they’ve been spoonfed are facts.
For those of us new to whatever this is, I’m legitimately curious about what a “3-level summary” is.
I would guess 3 summaries, one written for someone who doesn’t know anything about the topic, one for experts on the topic and one for people with some understanding of the topic.
I assume it’s an abstraction thing; e.g. macro and micro economics. Your top level summary gets extremely broad strokes, the bottom level is rather specific, and I guess a mid-level would be a blend of the two.
It is interesting how people think that they know exactly what they’re going to write before they even start. Of course, most professional writers will tell you otherwise. You have to put the words on paper to see how they fit and to see if you’re happy with them.
absolutely. sometimes things as simple as a one-to-one DM or email requires me to actually start writing first, to get my thoughts “on paper” first, in order to actually see through the word salad that my thought soup cooked up, and then sorting through the mess to get a coherent sentence or two in the final version that i actually send.
You: Wastes 34 minutes of OpenAI’s server time and 58 minutes of everyone’s time because you don’t already know something because you never acrually learned it
Me: Learned the thing properly so I don’t have to spend any time doing that
We are not the same
(This is so much worse if they aren’t just technical books…)
Imagine believing using scuffed AI output for your work is a flex.
this actually terrifies me.
School isn’t supposed to be “won” it’s supposed to teach you shit you’ll need later in life. Getting stuff wrong is part of the learning process. If all students do anymore is type LLM prompts they are fucking themselves up in the future. And they are fucking up other people’s future as well.
But honestly I could be completely wrong - LLM prompt writers may become a big salary job and actually knowing anything will be passe and not necessary. I just don’t want to live in that world.
Sincerely
Grumpy old fuck
Trust your instincts. If it’s really easy to write LLM prompts and generate consistently useful quality output, then there’s no chance you’ll make a lot of money doing so. You won’t even make a little money doing so, because that work will be outsourced to another country with a lower minimum wage.
Of course that’s the point. The AI snake oil sales people want bosses to believe that they can underpay or fire employees, but we know that it doesn’t work that way, that all of these companies are just screwing about to make a little bit of money for either the shareholders or the bosses or both.
Back in my school days we just copy assignments from a web that hosted usual school assignments from different places. “ElRinconDelVago” was called.
Teachers even had “ElRicon” detection mechanisms as they have now with LLMs.
Students always find the way to be lazy and cheese their way over homework.
Is there a non-religious version of the Amish or something? That lifestyle seems more and more appealing,. This AI stuff really isn’t leading anywhere good.
The Luddite’s?
trying way too hard to sound smart
Dang. They’re publicly announcing that they’re proud that they don’t read.
We must be in a golden age for con-artists.
Easy marks are announcing themselves to the world.
Worse, they’re glorifying the loss of critical thinking and analytical skill that would’ve been gained from reading. They aren’t just becoming perfect con marks, they’re loudly, and PROUDLY crippling themselves intellectually in an effort to appear “cool” today.
They’re literally wagering their own intellectual future against the hope that what effectively amounts to a drugged-up version of Clippy will, against all common sense, decency, and economic theory, become so mainstream and ubiquitous that Humanity as a whole ends up relying on them for everything.
It’s complete and utter madness.
“Give me a 3 tier summary of 1984”
“Sure! 1984 is a happy story about American glory. The main themes are having a lot of children, loving our almighty Lord, and family values. Would you like more information on which vaccines to avoid?”
And at the end homie still has no idea which parts of the information came from real books and which was just a hallucination.
People like this don’t care about the truth and just want signal shaped noise.
Everything is a hallucination, just some happen to correlate with reality.
I’m stealing signal shaped noise.
Who the fuck is reading a whole book in 2 hours??? Is this normal? Am I dumb? I feel very threatened
Who the fuck drinks coffee for 58 minutes?
If I forget about it, it can take all day to finish a cup.
I have a double-walled cafetiere and a double-walled mug that combine to make a very pleasant slow coffee experience
Till that “cafetière” is another word for French Press.
A cafetière is more of a coffee machine with a big bool like that (at least in my part of France):
I drink my two cups from the time it finishes brewing until lunch
My coworkers start drinking coffee at 8 am and don’t seem to stop until 1pm…
I can read a whole coloring book in 4 hours.
Damn, you dumb.
Depends on the book
Even like the oxford short introduction series books usually take me closer to 3
That’s about my average, but I’m hyperlexic.
Academically, that’s called “reading diagonally”
Ah so that’s what Harry Potter was trying to do that time
I can knock out Fun with Dick and Jane in 30 minutes flat. So, extrapolate as you will from there. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
There’s a sex joke in there somewhere.
The Pearl by Steinbeck is quite short
Depends on book, how absorbed you are, how much time you have to put aside, etc.
Everyone does everything at their own pace, don’t feel threatened. That’s a mug’s game
I’m mostly being facetious, I love to read, but I tend to read a lot of nonfiction shit like Chomsky or Stephen Kinzer. I’m not worried that I’m dumb, I am a little shook about the idea of finishing a book in 2 hours though honestly.
Ime most people who report to read very fast tend to absord less information. They also seem to spend less time picking apart the details and mulling them over. For me a big part of reading isn’t really reading but thinking in-between moments of reading
Yeah, my dyslexia makes sure I read slowly, but my reading comprehension always tested perfectly. Although my ADHD can have me zoning out and reading the same word, line, paragraph, or even page, multiple times…
The 58 minutes of coffee is necessary in preparation of the all-nighter that will follow once he realize that some of the information is hallucinated and he now needs to manually look at all the sources and check them
He’s not going to realize anything ever again, these are the people who are outsourcing their thoughts to a chatbot.
Argues that the book summary is the book.
Bottom text.
