I was talking with a sysadmin once who intentionally removed nano and emacs from any system he was granted access to. His explanation was “if they can’t use vim I don’t want them on my machines”
There’s a sysadmin at my place who does exactly that. He’s kind of an idiot too.
Shocked
If a sysadmin expected me to use vim for every minor config tweak, I wouldn’t want to be on their machines either.
I don’t find nano any easier for minor tweaks than vim
A vim user finding nano too difficult? Impressive.
Once you get the hang of it it’s just so much quicker for small and big tasks.
Check out vim adventures:
Or just install vimtutor and try around. The basics are pretty simple, and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
Thanks, no. At that point i use sed, grep or a GUI editor.
Why? Nano doesn’t need training, and even for config the engineers shouldnt be able to impact production without review. Sysadmin needs to retire
Brilliant! I don’t entirely disagree with that. I had vim forced on me at my old job, including actual vi on some of the more ancient systems. I got so used to it that I don’t really know how to use nano and definitely not emacs.
I never understood what the big deal was. Write. Quit. If you can’t remember that ‘w’ means write and ‘q’ means quit, I don’t know how else to help. Add in some decent options in your vimrc and it is pretty comfortable. I am in no way some guru who knows every shortcut and fancy command out there, but I like using it and it is the first thing I install on a new system.
I am not one to judge what text editor, OS, phone, car, or computer you like. You do you. If I was a sysadmin that had to deal with people who really shouldn’t be on those systems and that was an easy way to discourage people from screwing with it, then hell yeah.
Knowing VIM does not make one a better sys-admin. You can be an idiot, and still know how to drive Vi/Vim. There is FAR FAR FAR more to managing an OS and than that. If you think requiring VIM is enough to keep unknowledgeable people away from servers, you are probably the one who shouldn’t be managing servers.
Vim user here. I still can’t find the value of c to the power of x in nano. Does anyone have the answer?
Long live to emacs!
vim and emacs are ide like text editors.
I’ve been using Vim for years, cause I can’t figure out how to close it.
In the world of text editors, VIM, specifically NeoVim is the shining light. Standing at the pinnacle of creation at a height that can only be reached by zealous emacs users.
They have a learning curve through. Nano is obviously easier, but it’s also just a basic editor.
:x
As a nano user, I fully agree.
+1 for nano. I just need to change two parameters in a config file, not join a religion.
When the holy war comes, you’ll be among the first sacrifices!
nanofor editing config files,emacsif I’m writing code…kwriteorjoplinif I need a scratch pad or to share notes between devices respectivelydgg:wq
Just use notepad++ with wine like any normal person do
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Jesus, why can’t people just expose their drives to cosmic radiation and have it switch the bits in the file? So much time wasted writing useless editors.
EMACS is a great operating system, it only lacks a good editor.
Nano, based.
If I use VI or VIM I’m going to have to kill the task because I just tried to exit and uggggghhhh why!?
:q! or :exit or :quit or ZZ…there’s lots of ways to quit Vim.
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and why should it be? vim and its bindings are extremely popular. should window managers all use alt+f4 to kill programs, just because its familiar to new users?
Yes.
