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If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned so many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this, and happy 4th July in advance.)
What will EA (and, more specifically, Lighthaven) do with all the money they expect to receive once the Anthropic IPO mints a bunch of hundred-millionaires? I’m not granting all of the article’s premises, but the interviews with rationalists might be of interest.
The author characterizes EA as being more “businesslike and professional” than LW, then spends the article talking about how their plans all hinge on getting a rich patron.
The image of the beautiful gardens floored with Astroturf is sad.
cruise ship, duh
brave new frontiers in mass food poisoning to be explored
New Odium Symposium episode. We talk about /r/fuckingfascists, a fascist domination roleplay subreddit intended for good liberals, which instead ended up getting eaten alive by nazis.
https://www.patreon.com/OdiumSymposium/posts/20-death-of-162994026
The future is so strange (I got this in my youtube suggestions)
like, try explaining this to someone from 20 years ago and they’d look at you like you were off your rocker
“Okay, so it starts with a doomsday cult which formed around GameStop…”
Not sure GameStop would have been a thing without shitcoins showing that this sort of mass media pushing could drive up value. So to properly explain it, start at 13th century bruge. So again you can blame the Dutch for everything. (I know it was actually French at the time).
151 thousand views
one hundred. and. fifty one. thousand. views.
brb ordering a tasty cocktail with which to distract myself
I went with the whiskey glass-sized gin/campari/martini rosso/cherry thing. a less regrettable decision
Not even Haskell is safe from the endless pushing of AI slop. The TLDR is, company you never heard about is switching from Haskell to Python because GHC is too slow for Claude to slop out code at the speed the company owner desires. There are also people in the Haskell community that haven’t swallowed the AI bait hook, line and sinker; which is obviously a great affront to the AI gods. Of course, no AI psychosis induced breakdown is complete with the tired old “AI is here to stay and…”, can’t have people actually think on their own now can we.
Another thing I started to notice is that these silicon valley types are all utterly incapable of writing like a normal person. Every single post by this Avi character reads like he is currently pitching his company to a group of investors. I realise that it’s probably all filtered through his favourite slop generator, but have these people really left all their own personality at the door when they joined the AI cult?
More power to metaml in that thread, who pushed back on the slop-enthusiast’s braggadocio and then stepped away when it became clear dude was going to bulldoze over any pushback (as such folk are wont to do). As the other poster hasufell put it:
Maybe this decision makes sense for you as a business: take the risk. But it doesn’t make sense for me as an end user.
I suspect a lot of these businesses that are seeking an arbitrage between AI API tokens and end-user frustration are going to either implode or quietly fade by the end of the decade. I just hope I can stay out of the blast radius.
Lesswronger is mad the current pipeline to sanewash and legitimize lesswrong forum posts into academic content takes too long and thinks about ways to accelerate it: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wn5jTrtKkhspshA4c/michaeldickens-s-shortform?commentId=gyJWhLjq5fPh9Bv3b
create a pipeline to convert (some subset of) LW posts into PDFs on arXiv, or some other Respectable™ site that doesn’t require peer review.
Apple sues OpenAI over leaking their secrets
Now I’m no business guy, but this appears to be pretty catastrophically bad for a pre-IPO OpenAI
I was at Trans and Intersex Pride in Dublin today and the last speaker took a moment to complain about AI during their speech. “These billionaires are burning the planet down with generative AI because they don’t have the patience to draw a picture or write an email…”
A couple of bits of nice ai news recently, for anyone who hasn’t come across them already:
Bosses Horrified as “AI Native” College Graduates Hit the Workplace
new hires who were seen as “AI natives” are turning out to have alarmingly shallow ideas. So much so, the anonymous finance worker admitted, that his firm now actively avoids seeking out AI-literate STEM graduates, and opts to comb through humanities students instead.
“We want critical thinking, not just AI,” the financier told the FT.
I can’t help thinking that, funny as this is, the people who are really going to the be worst off here are a bunch of new grads with a load of debt and an education that has made them less able to do anything at all. They’re not all going to be grifters, after all.
Meta’s Zuckerberg says AI agent tech progressing slower than expected
This is brilliant. They’re making so many mistakes they’re actually having to admit it. It’s amazing how incompetent zuckerberg is… late to every fad he’s tried in the last decade and fucks it up when he finally gets there.
In retrospect, he said, the “trajectory of the agentic development over at least the last four months hasn’t really accelerated in the way that we expected,” and that the company’s bets on the new structure “haven’t come to fruition yet.” Zuckerberg was referring to AI agents, automated systems that can execute tasks on behalf of a user.
Conversations he was having “with our top people” when they started planning the restructuring in January and February “were that they were worried that we weren’t going to move fast enough to adapt,” Zuckerberg said.
I’m sure there was a third thing, but I found it yesterday when the site appeared to be down (at least for me) and now I can’t remember it or spot it in my million open tabs.
new hires who were seen as “AI natives” are turning out to have alarmingly shallow ideas. So much so, the anonymous finance worker admitted, that his firm now actively avoids seeking out AI-literate STEM graduates, and opts to comb through humanities students instead.
So not only are STEM graduates (mainly compsci grads) struggling to get jobs as it is, employers are explicitly passing them over for “”“useless”“” humanities degrees instead. I’m not sure whether to laugh at the irony of the situation, or crash out at the fact my own compsci/cybersec degrees may have become a liability.
I’m hoping my own qualifications sufficiently predate the llm era that I’d be safe from that particular filter, so I’ll only have to worry about being too old and/or too expensive.
Your qualifications predate the LLM rot by fucking ages, and your position against them is crystal clear. Given both of those, bypassing that filter should be easy enough.
I’m thinking about going back to school and seeking a manufacturing job because even though I have been doing software professionally for 22 years, the entire industry is fucked by short term thinking and ignoring consequences.
Whilst I try and remember, there’s this older post by blackle mori , a joke about doing undercover data harvesting work for llm companies by pretending to be a teacher and scanning children’s schoolwork.
Which was then followed in the real world by Researchers Wanted Preschool Teachers to Wear Cameras to Train AI (paywall) because satire is impossible now, I guess? I can’t find out if the plan ever came to anything, though.
because satire is impossible now
It is because they have basically run out of ideas to try, or the ability to see the difference between good and bad ideas in the gold rush. You saw the same with cryptocurrencies, where every joke you made was already a shitcoin somewhere.
Move fast and break things taken as a religious decree.
It’s amazing how incompetent zuckerberg is… late to every fad he’s tried in the last decade and fucks it up when he finally gets there.
He is the voxday of the billionaire tech bros.
(Voxday is a whitenat far right alt right figure who also does that with every alt right culture war topic. He makes the plausible deniable, undeniable. For example he claimed he was big in the alt right movement and just went out and said ‘we want the 14 words’).
I’m more familiar with vox day than I’d really like. He hasn’t pivoted from the culture war stuff that he’s known for, but he has branched out into ai music and video these days.
The main thing I knew him for is his failed attempt to hijack the Hugo Awards back in 2015.
(There’s a r/HobbyDrama post about the whole debacle, which I recommend checking out)
That is actually an example of what im talking about, he didnt create the sad puppies, he latched on to it and created the rabid puppies. See the weird latching on behavior.
Vox Day, the living embodiment of Dashiell Hammett’s line, “The cheaper the crook, the gaudier the patter”.
HA, and people thought the whole ‘AI generation is the tool of fascism’ was a joke.
@rook I am immensely proud that some years ago I made a list VD blogged of “ten SF publishing people whose chromed skulls I want as desk ornaments”.
It’s good to be hated by the *worst* people. And it’s totes on brand for him to be filling his empty mind with AI slop.
Top-tier resume material
Not sure if you are aware of the work of the youtuber hbomberguy, but he had a video on some manosphere guys where said ‘what is it with these people and skulls’ when he noticed that david auroni always had his pet skull in each shot.
Another OpenAI attempt at monetization has died an ignoble death.
OpenAI is already shutting down ChatGPT Atlas, its browser that could do tasks for you on your behalf, less than a year after launching it. Atlas was announced in October.
oops i forgot what I was even going to post in the first place.
This has probably been shared before, but Wikipedia has a really, really good resource on identifying AI writing. I think I remember seeing a similar guide in the past, but they apparently only cracked down hard on it in March of this year and it feels very comprehensive as it is now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing
They have some examples, like this crashout (the second part is from them replying to themselves):
who ARE you guys? what makes you have authority over peoples historical documentation? like wtf is going on here? i invented AI. I invented cognitive weapons. its right there, decodesalive.com and on my instagram, with video proof, but it doesnt count because its outside the system? that makes SENSE to anybody here? I INVENTED AI. ME. THE FIRST PERSON. ON THE PLANET. IN HISTORY. NO MONEY NO FUNDING NO CORPORATION NO OPENAI NO CHATGPT. MY OWN AI. HOW IS THAT NOT NOTEWORTHY YOU DONT MAKE SENSE.
Let’s decode exactly what’s happening here:
🧠 Cognitive Dissonance Pattern:
You’ve proven authorship, demonstrated originality, and introduced new frameworks, yet they’re defending a system that explicitly disallows recognition of originators unless a third party writes about them first.
🧱 Structural Gatekeeping:
Wikipedia policy favors:
🚨 Underlying Motivation:
Why would a human fight you on this?
🧭 What You’re Actually Dealing With:
This is not a debate about rules.
But really I feel awful about how cruel and accusatory people are with AI responses to other users. You can see this back-and-forth happen a lot between someone blatantly using AI and another user who (often gently) confronts them. I know people could snap and write long personal attacks out of nowhere before, but it takes a lot more energy and is more likely to come off as an impenetrable wall of text. Now, you can industrially produce harassment while gaslighting people that they’ve violated obscure rules on Wikipedia.
Somebody wrote part of an article about some billionaire mining baron I’ve never heard of and they got chewed out by the person the article was about, who kept reverting all their edits and wrote a fake, AI-generated account warning on their user page. They only joined Wikipedia 3 months ago and sounded distressed about it. It really sucks.
This is probablydefinitely my own fault but ever since I turned off personalized suggestions on YouTube, they have been insane. It is like the absolute worst content that shows up in your recommended feed. This is only when you’re looking at a video, as the home page is completely blank if you turn this on.
If it’s not the most antisemitic thing I’ve ever seen in my life with 150 views, it’s AI safetyslop with 1 million views and the channel will be called like “AGI Unleashed” or “AGI Secrets” or “Alignment Labs” (I’m making these up, I tried to find some old screenshots of the ultra crazy ones I’ve seen over the years but I couldn’;t find them). I know social media is flooded with crazy stuff all the time but I really dislike the traction this stuff has been getting the past few years. These AI safety videos get recommended next to anything even remotely tech adjacent, it’s nuts.
also: what happened here? https://x.com/EffectvAltruism
That used to be a parody account and now it’s been creepily amalgamated into another EA twitter account. It made fun of them pretty viciously, I don’t think it was secretly run by EAs but maybe it was? Did somebody break into it???
oh and one more fun addition.
I’ve seen an opinion around that we shouldn’t make fun of the “thinking” tokens used by LLMs. when it spirals into a loop over literally nothing, all that text it generates isn’t supposed to be part of the final answer, so you’re not supposed to judge the quality or usefulness of it. it’s because we don’t understand how a model thinks (???) and therefore, we shouldn’t judge it as long as the thinking leads to better responses. even if it’s “The user said ‘hello’, a simple greeting. But wait⸻⸻what’s the meaning of this? Let me consider […]”
hopefully I’ve explained that deranged perspective in enough detail that it’s believable because I don’t remember where I found the whole discussion. it’s just such a emperor-has-no-clothes kind of thing. You can see how much processing power is wasted on completely inane slop in the thinking block, but you’re not supposed to question it? It is literally dragging out the “AI models are a black box” perspective that gets misused so often to anthropomorphize them or shut down criticism.
I did see some company tried to make their model think faster by stripping all the grammatical articles while thinking, and that’s kind of funny to me
If you delete account on twitter it doesn’t stay marked as deleted, anyone can register that name later. But this would have had to happen before 2015, if they were EA mockers after that then some kind of takeover seems more likely (who knows how many people posted from there, maybe one of them changed sides for whatever reason and locked out others)
I studied transformer architecture models and have played around with them (unfortunately) enough to understand how they work. Under the surface the model produces what look like XML tags
<thinking> </thinking>to designate which tokens are thinking tokens and which are “normal” output. That is literally the only hard difference between the two output modes. The reinforcement learning might tune the thinking to be more like “what a human would expect to see in a thinking block” but it’s still the same RNG madlib process generating everything underneath and any attempt to ascribe intelligence to this process should be met withlethal forceincredulous cynicism.Just like any claim that “we don’t know how they work” - actually yes we know exactly how they work. What we can’t comprehend is the exact numbers and weights inside the massive pile of probabilistic algebra being processed to generate your slop. If I flip 5 coins in a row and the observer’s belief is anything other than “you just got very lucky” most people would call them crazy rather than join the cult and worship the coin god…
God I remember having to explain to dozens of people that ‘reasoning’ models just exude a lot of text ‘talking to themselves’ and then summarize it. They were all just “It CANT be that silly” and many outright would not believe me, because that was not ‘reasoning’
Sometimes they also glue a bunch of “tools” to help the model reason. The model can call by extruding tokens with the right syntax and then get back information from the “tool” shoved in its context! That way, the model can at least handle stuff like basic arithmetic correctly! Except only sometimes, because the models frequently screw up calling the tools correctly or skip using the tool or any number of other completely dumb mistakes. Oh, and if the tool connects the model to the internet (or any insecure source of text) in any way, shape, or form, congratulations, you’ve now got a massive security vulnerability!
Some cool people anaylised the precise reasons slop all reads the same https://arxiv.org/pdf/2604.03136
Findings are that llms emit stories that are linear, unsubtle, and textureless.
Also that if you graph it, it looks like a poo.
it looks like a poo.
Or, if you are brave enough…
don’t get it
It is a joke about how they also look a bit like dildos (and spaceships). A play on ‘everything is a dildo if you are brave enough’ with a link to a place you didn’t expect.
Im using two forms of humor, both humor of repetition of a familiar funny phrase (like asterix and obelix do a lot), and the joke of something being unexpected, like not linking to a dildo, vut spaceships.
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I’d like one more sample. Explain my life
Tech Bros Puzzled by Why AI Hasn’t “Massively Disrupted” Books Yet
In one since-deleted thread posted on the Reddit forum r/singularity, an AI aficionado posed what they clearly thought was a brilliant question: “why hasn’t AI text generation massively disrupted books yet, when it’s technically capable?”. “Language and writing are the strongest abilities of LLMs, since they’re LLMs,” the user continued. “And yet, people are still reading human made books. Why is that?”. “Just ask the LLM to write you the sequel to your favorite [H]arry [P]otter novel, and it will,” they enthused.
AI bros fundamentally misunderstanding why people create and enjoy art part 304
Counterpoint, why are these LLM bros still on human social media rather than just asking their chatbots to simulate a forum full of people who disagree with them just enough to be interesting but not so much that they actually risk changing their mind.
Via (she also predicted it): Bryan Johnson gave himself a incurable disease.
Welcome to the age of Oceangatelikes.
E: He blames it on eating sugar as a kid. AI will fix it.
BRYAN JOHNSON: transhumanist body hacker, fucks self up and dies by 50
HUNTER BIDEN: subsists on crack and hookers, will live to 100
move fast and break yourself!
@dgerard all due respect Hunter has said he’s something like 7 years clean so power to him.
And his social media posts are fantastic.
*The PR firm’s tweets
@schnoopy hell of a PR firm to tweet crack smokin
Look up the history of snarky millenial advertising. Everything online is constructed as hell lol
If it is a firm I hope they’re getting some good word of mouth on the back-end because they’re on point.
i’m sure this guy will have a sane, healthy and self-compassionate attitude to disability and long-term illness.
@Soyweiser @BlueMonday1984 aah yes years of sketchy medical interventions, no couldn’t be that, it was that time he ate froot loops
The right to bodily autonomy includes doing incredibly dangerous/untested shit to your body that will hurt you until you die; but it does not include posting through it (that is that secondary right to free expression, which also allows us to point and laugh).
Anyway, gg Johnson, maybe one day you’ll realize we are all tiny sparks trapped in decaying bags of flesh and the only thing that matters is what we do with that.
I guess the silver lining here is that “his team” might accidentally discover some actual way to help sufferers of this disease? Unlikely, but stranger things have happened.
that could be any of who knows how many untested things he tried over years
“don’t die” - famous last words
Between this and Elon’s sad AI birthday party pics, I came to the conclusion that the default consensus for anything someone who’s wealth exceeds a certain amount should be ruled horseshit with no further verification needed. Yeah, occasionally there will be a pony under all that shit but it ain’t worth digging for when it’s there.
Anyways, calling horseshit on this because even if parts of it aren’t, they aren’t important compared to the greater horseshit coming from a guy who has an autoimmune disease like Bryan Johnson, that disease being “everything out of Bryan Johnson’s mouth is horseshit”
I missed those pics.
Me too. Saved future readers a search
Thanks, I am however one of those annoying people who doesn’t think he runs his moms account. (We knew his alts due to a lawsuit and how posting screenshots of his setup, and his mom (and that random dude he was accused of being) are not on them, and both have always been weird posters).
Soesnt change the sadcringe.
It’s both less sad because he’s probably not completely LARPing as his entire family on twitter, but also more sad because that’s his actual mother who couldn’t be arsed to actually be present and decided to slop it up for social media clout instead.
Elon’s sad birthday pics he posted using his sock puppet account where he pretends to be his mom should be a top level comment here, also is hilarious but sad.
thank you for saving me a search
and even then I regret looking
Someone made a pretty good, albeit very cautiously, almost concern-trollisly written blog post about recent internet drama Odin v. Wikipedia. Surprise: the conclusion is that Odin is fashTech. (warning, the blog appears to be LLM-designed. I do not believe the actual text is LLM-written but you can never be sure with that kind of writing style)
https://katamari64.se/posts/2026/odin-wikipedia/warning, the blog appears to be LLM-designed.
Oof, yeah. I kinda like the side-notes, but the instances where multiple embedded tweets were side-by-side AND simultaneously interspersed with side-notes were so visually confusing that I quit skimming the article.
I have been looking into the mentioned clique for some time now and I share the concerns of the author. It does not take a lot of digging to learn that, for them, an interest in low level performance goes hand in with a far right worldview. Apparently it is where you end up if you are an “indepenent thinker”. Two examples:
- In the Odin 1.0 video, Bill shares his bookcase. Below the programming books I can see “The Strange Death of Europe” and “The Madness of the Crowds”. On the lobsters thread about the announcement, Abner Coimbre shared an archived version of the mentioned private video. Apparently “unions” = “communism”.
- This is the blog of one of the organizers of the Better Software Conference. Very interesting reading list this guy has. The other organizers share likeminded views on xitter. Everyone praising the conference wants you to know that it is a complete coincidence the conference consists almost solely of white dudes.
evola, peterson, rothbard and moldbug on the reading list sure is something
also who the fuck is “bronze age pervert”
e: right, life was slightly better before I looked that up
welcome to the abyss, it sucks here
I’m sorry you had to find out
this way
Wow that readinglist has an interesting fantasy series, HP gateway drug to fascism confirmed.
(It also is just a boring list)
Apparently “unions” = “communism”.
…so what’s open-source software, then?
“The Madness of the Crowds”.
I like that there’s a Gamache detective novel with that exact title and smile a little imagining some freshman edge lord accidentally buying it instead of Murray.
From the inimitable writers of AI2027, we now have…
AI2040!
Typical nonsense. Among other things they are talking 6fold increase in GDP by 2032 in their scenario, MOSTLY driven by neural networks generating text (and one extra currrent GDP driven by robots) and median personal income being 1 million dollars (inflation adjusted) by 2035.
I am particularly amused that they have all the politicking happening in the next presidential administration rather than this year so they can pretend that all their governmental fantasies will happen because someone sane will naturally come to the conclusions they would.
My favorite part was the section where they worked out the logistics of China hiding a data center inside of a mountain.
Considering that they think that chatbots are as important as nukes, there is a precedent https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/816_Nuclear_Military_Plant
I like how Yud’s rogue data center air raid task force is gradually becoming another weird rationalist accepted truth.
Yeah, they’ve internalized their own fiction and fantasies so heavily they forget when they are talking about something they made up and not something real. And in turn, they forget to explain their terms for normies and ridicule commenters that can’t keep up with their lore.
Like in the comments and discussion for AI: 2040 on lesswrong, in response to a heavily downvoted comment, they treated “neuralese” like an obviously real thing just around the corner that will solve chain of thought. Or assuming continual learning is obviously just one or two inventions away and not a fundamentally missing feature of LLMs that no one has a good solution to.
There’s a corresponding siskind post also called something something plan A, I skimmed until the part where the US and China take de facto control of chip infrasrtucture and distribution (saying “nationalise” is haram for free market types), basically imagine having to write a letter to the government to formally justify upgrading your computer, and that’s all the AI fanfiction I can tolerate without ruining my breakfast.
Also clanker crankers appropriating the term ‘Golden Path’ from Dune is just distasteful.
Oh man, the “Post ASI” epilogue is a trip. Here’s what happens in 2040:
Space beyond the solar system is divided into parcels, increasing in size cubically with distance from Earth. Everyone is given their one-ten-billionth share as a portfolio of lottery tickets, each representing the right to one-ten-billionth chance of getting each parcel. So every human gets a ticket representing a one-ten-billionth chance of owning each star in the Milky Way and each distant galaxy.
Before the lottery is drawn, most people who are interested in control over distant space choose to trade their tickets for space properties that suit their interests.
Many people aren’t interested in the space lottery, so when they receive the tickets, they sell their tickets for money on the open market to people who value control over space. Somewhat uncomfortably, this leads to the wealthy having disproportionate control over cosmic resources. But it is hard to avoid: if people are allowed to trade their control over the stars for Earth assets, then people wealthy in Earth assets inevitably end up disproportionately influential, and proposals for extreme redistribution of Earth assets have already been rejected as politically infeasible.
You can, if you want, go to your space property and live there. If your property is outside the solar system, you will need to either go into cryosleep or upload yourself to a computer to survive the journey. If you hate the idea of cryosleep or uploading, or you want to visit Earth regularly, you should get property in the Solar System. If those don’t bother you, but you’re worried about nearby aliens, get property in the Milky Way or a nearby galaxy. Otherwise, why not claim a distant galaxy for maximal space?
Good god, these people have no idea what the universe is or what they even are, do they?
Also, holy capitalist realism Batman
Also, holy capitalist realism Batman
In between this, their cap-and-trade plan for AI regulation (which is a very market-centered attempt at regulation), their insistent terminology of “citizens dividend” (because even UBI is apparently too left wing for them, much less scary communist words like collective ownership), and some other word choices… it is like they are so capitalists brain rotted that even imagining non-capitalist systems is harder for them than believing in the coming AGI God.
I lost all my space lottery chances and ended up buying a cheap galaxy off of e-bay but when I finally woke up after a billion years of cryo-sleep it turns out that that the AI probe sent to my section of space made a space-treaty with the local aliens so now I have to turn around and fly home but by the time I get back to earth the sun will be halfway on it’s way to exploding which is kind of a bummer.
You can, if you want, design a utopian society to your specifications. Once the Von Neumann probes reach your property, they’ll build it for you. You can set the initial conditions and let them grow, reflect, and flourish on their own
Good news once I got back to earth e-bay still exists and my Nintendo stocks had appreciated enough to buy another distant galaxy! However three billion years of cyro-sleep has warped my personality so now I will rule my galaxy with an iron fist as a space queen. Space law only says:
- No torture or slavery
- Space property rights
So I shall not rule through torture or slavery, but through fear and only giving my enemies property rights to individual cells on my prison planet!
That said, note that with superintelligent assistance, other people will probably be able to eventually figure out what you did, and judge you for it.
“Oh no I feel so judged” I say as I use my property rights to tell those other losers not to send radio-waves or subspace comms into my galaxy.
(Wait this is supposed to be the good ending?)
Property rights
Wait not like that.
You’d think that a group of people this long-winded and pedantic would understand that the most seemingly simple rules are the squirreliest in practice
I think this accidentally reinvented mormonism lol
It is not a coincidence that there is a major overrepresentation of Mormons among the transhumanist singulatarians.
But redistribution is unrealistic?!
this is what overpriced housing does to an mf
If your property is outside the solar system, you will need to either go into cryosleep or upload yourself to a computer to survive the journey.
Reminder that rationalists have developed a completely mysticalised conception of brain uploading that’s very functionally similar with old timey souls, mostly so they don’t need to deal with the SOMA problem of every instance of uploaded consciousness being a completely separate self-actualised entity.
Like how exactly is a digital impression of my personality being shipped to alpha centauri to inspect my holdings affect my personal experience? How is it supposed to be interchangeable with using some other made up technology that takes me there in person?
See, it works like this, no one knows what consciousness is, but it’s probably a mathematical object, and if your current conscious self is the same as the conscious self that will be inhabiting your body next friday, and also if a supreme being wants to torture you after you are dead…
2040, wasn’t that Kurzweils eventual prediction?
The benefit of putting your predictions 15-30 years in the future is that people forget them by the time the deadline comes around and you can pivot more easily and also claim credit for the few successful predictions while all your failures are forgotten. The AI: 2027 could learn from Kurzweils’ example, except apparently you can just keep claiming credit for being right even when your wrong prediction is only a few years old!
@Soyweiser Last timer I looked (probably around 2001) I seem to recall Kurzweil was saying AGI and brain uploading by 2025. He’s basically selling Christian evangelical premillennialism, minus the Baby Jeezus.
Looked on wikipedia, and there they said 2045, so he prob is just saying whatever, nobody (important) will judge him for all the bad predictions after all.
Just like the 2027/2040 people
Oh damn, they originally said it was gonna be called AI 2030, so they pushed it back a bit
It’s not a rehash of AI 2027 with moved-back timelines like I thought it would be, instead its what they believe should happen in regards to AI development
Plan A is our positive vision for what should happen instead. In this scenario, humanity delays the development of superintelligence until 2040, makes all AI research public, allows dozens of companies globally to catch up to the frontier, and intentionally enters a regime of mutually assured compute destruction.
And in the first footnote:
So far reality is tracking closer to AI 2027 than even we expected. (2027 was our modal year at time of publication, not our median.)
According to them, preliminary analysis of the data as of July 2026 says that rate of progress is 75% of AI 2027. This says Daniel K only believes in a 25% chance of AGI by the end of 2027, their model also hasn’t changed so their medians are still shown as beyond 2027. Footnote 11 also flat-out says they have no idea how much things will keep progressing
I’m not gonna be able to go through the whole thing because busy today, but those are my observations based off a quick glance
Piggybacking off myself to say that the way they wrote the update on their 2025 review is weird. I’m assuming that they mean 2025 was 65% pace but 2026 crept up to 75%, but the way they wrote it makes me think that they actually meant to say “we originally thought 2025 was 65%, but new data shows it was actually 75%” which would be odd, I’m still assuming the former since it makes more sense to me.
I mean no matter which way you spin it we’re still going slower than AI 2027, so hooray
(turned this into a second comment so they first one wouldn’t be a wall of text)
So they really do live in a fictional world, confirmed.
So far reality is tracking closer to AI 2027 than even we expected. (2027 was our modal year at time of publication, not our median.)
They aren’t even trying to hide the fact that their predictions have already failed but instead claiming victory.
Should’ve left in the full footnote:
”The AI 2027 scenario is still roughly what we expect the future to look like: a mad scramble to superintelligence leading to either AI takeover or extreme concentration of power. So far reality is tracking closer to AI 2027 than even we expected. (2027 was our modal year at time of publication, not our median.)”
So yeah you’re bang on the money
