U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris has repeatedly claimed that she worked at McDonald’s while getting her undergraduate degree in the 1980s. This claim has been reported by multiple reputable news outlets, but aside from Harris’ own testimony, there is no independent evidence such as a photo, employment record, or confirmation from a friend or family member to verify the story. Harris has invoked the alleged McDonald’s work experience throughout her political career, including in a 2024 presidential campaign ad and during a 2024 appearance on “The Drew Barrymore Show.” Other prominent Democrats, such as former President Bill Clinton, have also repeated the anecdote. However, some internet users have challenged the claim, with unverified reports that “McDonald’s Corporate sources” have no record of Harris working at their locations. Snopes reached out to Harris’ campaign and McDonald’s headquarters seeking evidence to corroborate the claim, but as of the report’s publication, no such proof has been uncovered. Without tangible evidence to independently confirm or debunk the story, Snopes has rated the claim “Research In Progress” as they continue to investigate.
What the fuck kind of hilarious nonsense is this
Is she planning to deploy the military against protestors and have them seize the voting machines? Or destroy the departments of Education and Labor? No? Okay, cool, she’s got my vote. Now let’s move on to talking about either (a) how to make sure she wins, or (b) how we can get better behavior out of the Democrats on Gaza and climate policy.
Get this Fox News horseshit out of here, pls and thank you
Fox ENTERTAINMENT needs to be banned
did you read the article?
came from snopes.com not foxnews.com
do fact checkers not matter to Democrats either?
Did YOU read the article.
It basically says, there is no proof she worked at McD, but there also isn’t any proof she didn’t. It was 40 years ago.
So actually it says NOTHING. Why did you post it? To stir shit up out of hot air.
Shit, there’s roughly even odds that the records of her employment no longer exist because the franchise she worked at shut down, or destroyed them because they were 40 years old.
I used to work at a Sprint call center in the early '10s, but if you asked me to prove it I literally couldn’t, because the staffing agency I was hired through, the call center, and Sprint itself no longer exist. Doesn’t change that I worked there.
Is this your deciding factor in whether or not you vote for her? Because if it is, it’s extremely pathetic.
bOtH sIdEs
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Still waiting for verdantbanana to break down more about the US voting system to me
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Just thought maybe you two might know each other. Maybe you could ask him about responding to my question, and then I’ll get back to debunking your talking points? I really would like to of course but it’s bothering me that he doesn’t want to teach me about the US voting system. Makes it hard to focus on talking about a whole bunch of new topics besides the super important McDonalds’ thing we were talking about before.
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So you’re recommending we vote for Trump?
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Can they actually prove anyone worked at McDonalds that long ago? Aside from saving a pay stub for 40 years I don’t see how one could prove or disprove such a thing, I doubt the company keeps records of every employee that far back.
She could have worked for a franchisee, too. If that was the case, a SMB owner is definitely not going to have those records after all this time
Assuming that franchise is still even open. How long does the US gov hold onto tax returns? The IRS says there’s usually no need to keep them after 6 years. The best evidence they could find would probably be a coworker that corroborates the story or a photograph of Harris behind the counter working. The photo seems unlikely, and how many coworkers from 30 years ago do you remember?
The Social Security Administration has a record of every employer that’s ever paid you and how much they paid you each year.
They have to for paying out social security.
So I actually tried this recently. Everything is done by paper and mail - even though I visited the office in person, they just mail it onwards.
Also, despite having an expected turnaround of six months officially, it turns out that wait times of multiple years are not uncommon once the request is submitted. So even if Harris submitted a request right now the election would be long over before she would have a copy of the records to prove it either way.
You’re talking about applying.
I’m talking about getting your work history.
Can be done in pretty much the time it takes to sign into the website.
You’re talking about applying.
… for my work history.
Specifically, using SSA-7050-F4, https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9TwOUSn34I
I’m talking about getting your work history.
Yes, me too!
Can be done in pretty much the time it takes to sign into the website.
Err, so from https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html
Your online Statement displays your yearly earnings history free of charge but does not show any employer information.
I.e. you can create the account and view the info online pretty quick but it won’t have the proof that you worked at McD back in the 80s or 90s.
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I can’t think of any way how I could proof the first job I had during school in the late 90’s. I was working in a restaurant kitchen, peeling potatoes and stuff. You don’t take photos there or keep name tags or other keepsakes. It was a shitty job, you want to forget about it, as soon as you left the premises.
Kamala Harris’ job is even longer ago. 40 years is a long time to keep paystubs or something. There were no camera phones back then, no digital footprint you could recreate. That she can’t produce any proof, doesn’t proof anything.
Also, and possibly more importantly…
…WHo FuKinG CArES?!?
60 comments in this thread. And snopes looking it up. So seems some people do.
Ah, the arrogance of the establishment!
See this brothers and sisters?! They think that by mocking and belittling those who dare to challenge their broken system, they can shame us into submission.
But they forget that ridicule only fuels the fire of our resolve.
Keep sneering, if you must, but know that every insult you hurl only strengthens our determination to stand against your candidate and the corrupt system they uphold.
How many people do ya think will change their minds and start voting for your candidate if you keep mocking and making fun of them? Hmmmm?
Gosh. I’m such an asshole…
Gosh. I’m such an asshole…
I wouldn’t call you that, as I respect everyone’s right to their opinions.
But it’s hard to take someone seriously when they resort to mocking and belittling others to make their point.
There’s a better way to have these discussions, one that doesn’t rely on tearing others down.
I’m sorry my crass comment made you feel belittled.
What can I do to make it up to you?
Social security records.
90s is nothing, a normal person could get it in a month, one of her aids could probably get it in an hour.
Does it matter tho?
Eh, it would be fucked up if she just flat out lied, but it’s hard to imagine she would lie about that.
If she proves it tho, they’ll make a new stupid claim and if she doesn’t prove it they’ll use this as evidence that she would prove it if it wasn’t true.
How to know when OP is unhinged and divisive:
People are agreeing with givesomefucks, who often gets down voted for unpopular views.
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Damn, you aren’t wrong!
It’s like when people think that them walking by causing street lights to go out.
We’re pattern recognition machines, and we have certain biases. People don’t notice all the streetlights that are working, just the ones that flicker. Either it happens right next to you, or you don’t notice.
Chances are you’re only looking at usernames when it’s really down voted. With the rare exception this time.
I bet if your scrolled thru my post history, you’ve up voted me more than youve down voted me.
Seems pretty ridiculous to judge the validity of an argument based on whether people agree with a particular commenter or not.
Ideas should be evaluated on their own merit, not dismissed because of who supports or opposes them.
This kind of thinking only stifles discussion and perpetuates division, which is exactly what we should be avoiding if we’re serious about finding solutions. Let’s focus on the content of the conversation, not the personalities involved.
Social security records. 90s is nothing, a normal person could get it in a month
I tried this and it takes ages. I applied back on July 1st and haven’t heard a peep yet - apparently this can take many months or sometimes even years.
Man, you know what?
I was wrong.
I’m used to having to get other people’s records, to look up my own back to my first highschool job, took literally less than five minutes.
Coincidentally, it was also a McDonald’s.
Try it yourself. Ssa.gov
I applied
Well, that’s not what anyone was talking about about…
I applied
Well, that’s not what anyone was talking about about…As clarification, I applied for the SSA-7050-F4 ( that is https://www.ssa.gov/forms/ssa-7050.html ) in order to get my detailed earnings and employment history, and following this video as a guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH8H9U-SIs8
Considering what the thread was about - what did you think I said I had applied for? I’m genuinely curious now - as per https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/flyers/EBE_Flyer_Apply_for_your_Social_Security_Number_While_Applying_for_Your.pdf it takes just two weeks after applying for the SSN / SSN card itself to get it, while actually applying for benefits takes 3-5 months as per https://finance.yahoo.com/news/social-security-benefits-long-does-180014897.html (which is ridiculously long but still not as bad as a year long wait).
to look up my own back to my first highschool job, took literally less than five minutes.
Coincidentally, it was also a McDonald’s.Dang where were you two months ago lol - can you talk me through this? If I can pull down a record of who I worked for from their online website then this would be a really big help for me for personal reasons.
Try it yourself. Ssa.gov
I did but couldn’t find it - only saw my yearly and monthly earnings totals.
… who cares?
Sometimes people bounce from one job to another. College jobs don’t have to be her identity.
When someone tells me they worked a specific job in college, I have never once doubted the truth of that statement. Why would anyone have reason to lie about such a thing? If it was a complete lie, you’d constantly be at risk of being exposed by a close friend who knew the truth, which is WAY WORSE for a presidential candidate. To even explore this as Snopes is pro-Trump.
She’s not a sex offender or a convicted felon.
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Unlike Trump who totally didn’t tell Isreal to “finish up” and to get it over with “fast” because they were “losing the PR war” and then, when Biden didn’t supply weapons to Israel, claimed Biden “abandoned” them.
Oh, and who, just a month ago pledged to help save Israel while also saying that Harris hates them? Who also failed to cut military aid to Israel during his presidency? Oh, right, also Trump.
Neither of our primary parties are going to back down on Israeli support any time soon. While I don’t approve of what’s happening. It’s foolish to think that this is a dividing factor in this election. It’s not.
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False dichotomy.
Since there’s only 2 viable candidates, then one of them is going to win. Both of them support the genocide.
You are not conceding on genocide if you are going to pick the one you disagree with less, ethically and morally speaking, outside of that.
If you don’t vote, or if you vote for a non-viable candidate, then you are conceding on all the other ethics and morals that you would otherwise agree with, just by not voting for the less bad but viable one, whoever you believe that is.
You are actively supporting all the negative things about the candidate you agree with least by not voting for one of the two primary candidates.
It sucks, but guess what… when you are stuck on a sinking boat, you can sit in angry defiance and complain all you want about how you don’t support the way that your boat manufacturer supported genocide. Or you can pitch in and try to save the fucking people on the boat with you.
One of these behaviors could make someone look like a selfish asshole.
Unless you are introducing a viable candidate who is against the genocide, then there is no concession being made on genocide.
FOH with your false dichotomy.
You are actively supporting all the negative things about the candidate you agree with least by not voting for one of the two primary candidates.
that’s not what active support is.
Unless you are introducing a viable candidate
viability is a media myth. kerry was viable. mccain was viable.
McCain was a Republican and Kerry is a Democrat. Of course they were viable! They have nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
Also, it’s not a media myth that third parties aren’t viable. It’s statistically proven fact. Third party candidates only poll around 1-3% of the popular vote by state, cumulatively, and none have received an electoral college vote since '68. The last viable third party candidate was Perot and even he couldn’t win a state.
I wish it wasn’t the case, because 2 candidates no longer provide enough variability in policy, but it’s the truth.
McCain was a Republican and Kerry is a Democrat. Of course they were viable!
they didn’t win. the label of “viable” is a myth.
You are actively supporting all the negative things about the candidate you agree with least by not voting for one of the two primary candidates.
This argument is a classic example of fearmongering that keeps the status quo alive.
Voting for the “less bad” candidate out of fear just perpetuates the very system that got us into this mess. Choosing between two evils still supports evil.
True change doesn’t come from settling for the lesser of two bad options; it comes from standing up for what you truly believe in, even if that means going against the grain.
If the boat is sinking because of the same flawed thinking that built it, patching it up with more of the same won’t save anyone. It’s time to build a new boat, not just keep bailing water on the old one.
Are ya stupid or astroturfing?
They’re a bad faith actor here to say words.
That’s it.
They have no substance, they are not going to engage in good faith.
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where did Trump work
We could check his tax returns to findohwaitaminute!
He works on McDonalds
Nowhere, ever.
Stolen McValor 🤦♂️
ITT: disinformation influencers and bad faith shills, and a bunch of people not putting up with their shit
Yep, and it’s coming from BOTH sides of the aisle.
We’ve all seen you posting the pro-Trump MAGA articles in conservative. You are completely dishonest about your positions in order to campaign for Donald.
Dude says he is woke-free in his description… And everything in his profile is about recognizing systematic flaws. Which is the definition of woke I last saw used in court cases. Claims to be a socialist but ties it to workers… We’ve seen that before somewhere huh?
He’s disingenuous. If you mention any of the realities of FPTP you get bold-texted diatribes; “YOU, sir, are a scale on the back of the TWO-HEADED SNAKE.”
He is either a MAGA cosplaying as a lefty or one of the authoritarian “leftists” who love state capitalist nations.
If calling out the duopoly and its stranglehold on democracy makes you uncomfortable, maybe it’s because deep down, you know it’s true.
I’m neither MAGA nor a fan of state capitalism—I’m here to fight for the working class and challenge the broken system that both major parties prop up.
If that makes you uneasy, maybe it’s time to reflect on why. Seems like I touched a nerve for you.
Challenge the broken system by doing exactly what MAGA is urging people to do, sure thing. Why are you so offended that you’re seeking out comments I didn’t even write to you? It’s because you know I am right.
Challenge the broken system by doing exactly what MAGA is urging people to do, sure thing.
It’s telling that you’re so quick to imply that I’m playing into MAGA’s hands, but I’m starting to wonder if it’s you who’s the real MAGA agent here. Your eagerness to defend the corrupt duopoly while throwing out baseless accusations reeks of someone desperate to keep people in line with the status quo. I think that you’re the one following the MAGA playbook, trying to silence anyone who dares to challenge the broken system you so dearly want to protect.
you’re seeking out comments I didn’t even write to you?
I’m not seeking anything out. As I was replying to another comment, I noticed yours. That’s how this Lemmy thing works.
It’s amusing how you try to twist words and mock what you don’t understand.
Recognizing systematic flaws isn’t “woke”—it’s being awake to the reality of exploitation and injustice that workers have faced for centuries.
Call it what you want, but if standing with the working class against oppression bothers you, then maybe you should reconsider which side of history you’re on.
“To me, it means someone who believes that there are systemic injustices in the criminal justice system”
Was the last use I know of in the courts. Thereby you are woke if you side with the injustices against the working class.
People who are anti woke: Trump, Desantis, MTG, and you. Who seems to be a fascist hiding behind a veil.
People who are anti woke: Trump, Desantis, MTG, and you. Who seems to be a fascist hiding behind a veil.
Dude, I’m a proud socialist. What are you even going on about?!
The vast, vast majority of my posts are for workers rights, socialist causes, union issues, and education. What part of that makes me seem like I like Trump or that I am a fascist?! Like what?! lolol
I’ve contributed over 200 posts and comments to the Lemmy socialist community I created and that I mod. I’m a member of the Socialist Workers Party, and I support them financially. You can check out the sub here:
https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
and see my post history here:
https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts.
I moderate socialists is the defense? That’s what the NAZI’s did mate, maybe social workers unite is not your best term.
We’ve all seen you posting the pro-Trump MAGA articles in conservative
Brother, let’s get one thing straight. I am no friend of the conservative party, nor do I carry water for Trump or his MAGA cronies.
You accuse me of dishonesty, but let me tell you this: my aim is to spark a fire of critical thought, to challenge the chains of this two-party system that keeps us all in check.
You realize that I’m a socialist, right? And that I have posted over 180 pro-socialist and anti-trump articles to the c/socialst community, right?!
Here’s a quick check on my most recent posts: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
And feel free to took at my post history. The vast, vast majority of my posts, and my comments are pro-socialist, anti-trump, and anti-duopoly.
If you think what you said was some sorta “gotcha!”, you’re gravely mistaken.
I haven’t been “completely dishonest” about anything I have posted or any of my values. I’ve posted libertarian articles too. Which actually take votes AWAY from Trump.
And no, “all” of you haven’t seen me post “pro-Trump MAGA” because the fact is that I’m not pro-trump or MAGA.
My allegiance is to the working class, not to any figurehead of a broken system. So, call me what you will, but know that I stand firm in my beliefs, unafraid to challenge the narrative from every side.
I actually created and mod c/socialist. https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
Feel free to take a look. But of course, that wouldn’t fit your narrative would it?
I’m not voting for your candidate. And I’m not voting for Trump either. Accept it and move on.
No “gotcha,” just informing people who might interact with you that they’re dealing with a MAGA cosplaying as a leftist.
Just informing people who might interact with you that they’re dealing with a MAGA cosplaying as a leftist.
It’s clear to me, and should be to anyone paying attention, that your real aim is to sew discontent, to create suspicion among those who dare to question the duopoly you so desperately cling to.
Why would I be “cosplaying” as a leftist?! Have you seen the hateful remarks I get on here? I’d actually get LESS hate if I were a MAGA because at least conservatives would like me. But they hate me too! lol
You didn’t actually look at the my c/socialist Lemmy community that I created and mod, did you?
You think by throwing out baseless accusations and labeling me as a “MAGA cosplaying as a leftist,” you can undermine the truth I stand for and the principles I hold?
Let me tell you something: your attempts to paint me as a fraud only reveal your own fear—fear of those of us who refuse to bow to the two-headed snake that you worship.
I am not here to play dress-up; I’m here to expose the lie that says we only have two choices in this so-called democracy.
If that shakes you, then I must be doing something right. :)
Very ready with the accusations of what my beliefs are for someone who is very upset they were accused of anything. And of course the projection, you are upset, panicking, writing long responses because I’ve hit on the truth. You are a MAGA campaigning for Donald.
Ah, brother, I see you’re doubling down on your attempts to smear and discredit me.
It’s an old trick—try to rile up your opponent, throw labels at them, and hope something sticks.
Let’s be clear, friend: I’m not the one panicking here. I stand firm in my beliefs, unshaken by the desperate attempts of those who cling to the duopoly like it’s their lifeline.
You’re rattled because I refuse to bow to the false choice between two sides of the same capitalist coin. You’re upset and mad, all because I am not voting for your candidate, so you are trying to make people think that I am voting Trump. You know that lots of people vote third party, right? There are NOT just two choices. Which is my point.
Your insistence on painting me as a MAGA supporter is nothing more than a weak attempt to stifle dissent and keep people in line with your status quo.
I actually think that you know that I’m not MAGA. You’re just saying it to try to sway others. You’re being an agent of the duopoly. You don’t want things to change.
But the truth is, I’m here to challenge that, to disrupt your comfortable narrative, and to remind folks that real change doesn’t come from playing along with the same tired game—it comes from standing up, speaking out, and breaking the chains that bind us to this broken system.
So keep throwing your accusations and of course, your downvotes; I’ll keep fighting for the revolution. Hey, have ya checked out my socialist Lemmy community yet? Let me know if you think MAGA would be a big fan of that community.
Is that supposed to be some sort of “gotcha”? It’s public and I have never hidden it. I came across some interesting articles, that community has pretty much one poster, and I posted 3 articles that I thought they’d find interesting.
I also posted science articles to the science community too! And have posted in the privacy community! OMG! Look! I post to other communities!!
I’ve never hidden that fact. The articles were interesting. So not sure what your point is.
If I had some sort of agenda, I’d post more articles in a more conservative and active sub.
In fact, they actually tried to point me to a more active sub and suggested I post. Which I declined to do. And your screenshot actually shows that interaction.
If I were secretly a conservative on some sort of mission of being some super awesome conservative hero, wouldn’t I have jumped at a chance to share the content with more active conservative people? Especially people who would give me way more upvotes?! lol
And just this morning I shared a libertarian article to this sub, and libertarians actually are supposed to take votes AWAY from the GOP.
And if I were conservative, would I really have started a Socialist community and put over 300 posts and comments in it?! https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
Do you realize how much MAGA hates socialism and socialists?! lol The hate us even more than Democrats do. lol
So you’ll have to keep trying if you wanna force some narrative for me. :)
I posted 3 articles that I thought they’d find interesting.
Good catch! It was 10. Out of 743 posts. And posted in one day. I can read and post whatever I want, whenever I want. I have never hidden the fact. If I was scared, I could have deleted them. Someone asked me to send to a more active conservative community and I declined.
The articles were interesting. I stand by everything I have said.
Wanna list the socialist articles? and the science articles? And the education articles? Do those next.
Let me help: https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
And I’m still voting socialist, and not for your candidate. And not for Trump. So what next?
bOtH sIdEs BoTh SiDeS!!!
Yes. That’s literally what I said. Thank you for agreeing with me!
LOL, let’s play “both sides” bingo.
Bingo? More like “wake-up” call. If recognizing the failings of both parties and refusing to settle for the status quo is a game to you, then maybe it’s time to reevaluate your life.
“When will the sheeple wake up and realize that bOtH sIdEs proclamations are insightful?”
🤣
I’m just waiting for them to slip up and forget which account they’re signed into and directly praise Donald Trump.
I’m just waiting for them to slip up and forget which account they’re signed into and directly praise Donald Trump.
It’s becoming clear to me that you’re the one truly working for the Republicans. Your relentless questioning of anyone who dares to challenge the Democrat-Republican stranglehold is more than suspicious—it’s the mark of someone trying to protect the status quo. I see through your game, sowing confusion to keep people in line. You’re the agent of the Republicans, not me, and I hope others see it too.
As I have mentioned before, the vast majority of my posts are for workers rights, socialist causes, union issues, and education. I’ve contributed over 200 posts and comments to the Lemmy socialist community I created and that I mod. I’m a member of the Socialist Workers Party, and I support them financially. You can check out the sub here:
https://lemmy.world/c/socialist
and see my post history here:
https://lemmy.world/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts.
No one believes you’re a socialist or not simping for trump. It’s obvious as fuck.
Your sarcasm only makes me more suspicious that you’re working for the Republicans in order to keep the duopoly in power.
It’s almost as if you’re here to sow confusion and keep people from seeing the truth that both sides are complicit in maintaining a system that serves the elite.
You seem to be doing everything you can to keep the status quo intact.
Let’s see, you have “both sides”, you have “duopoly”, you have “status quo”, how about a few more? I’ll get you started: “uniparty”.
The mockery of those who fear the truth! Throw around all the terms you want, but it won’t change the reality that the system is rigged to keep the people oppressed.
Call it a “uniparty” if that helps you sleep at night—what matters is that I, and many others, see through the charade and fight for real change, not just the illusion of it.
Keep laughing; the change is coming, and no amount of sarcasm will stop it.
Why in the hell is this even something to discuss?
ask yourself you just involved yourself in the discussion
They need to find someone who actually ate one of Harris’s alleged burgers and can testify that it was at least as good as the ones Trump served in the White House—otherwise why should anyone vote for her?
A McDonald’s burger from the 80s when they still used tallow for their fries and higher quality ingredients? No contest, it was better than the TrumpDonalds that got served in 2017-2020
Oh my God who cares. Donald Trump has never worked a day in his goddamn life. Frankly I could not care less what Kamala Harris’ summer job was
When she’s elected I hope McDonald’s throws up a giant “Employee of the Month” poster. ;)
I worked for Burger King in the 80’s and you’d never be able to prove that, either. I worked much longer for Sears in the 80’s and I wouldn’t be able to prove that, either. This is completely pointless.
I don’t even know I’d be able to prove I served in the Army Reserve for six years if it weren’t for my DD214.
You need a hobby.
This is just sad. Whether she lied about McDonald’s or not has no bearing at all on who I will vote for in the coming election. In the grand scheme of things this is meaningless. In fact if this is literally all that can be dug up about Harris it kind of speaks highly of her.
At the end of the day we all lose cause essentially elections are coming down to whoever is the lesser of two evils and not someone you stand behind.
