Looks like KBin has an edge over Lemmy now in terms of monthly active users.

It’s obviously a pretty silly thing, and is not in any way indicative of which project is “better” or more “long-term viable” or anything — instances of both federate with one another, and with the rest of fedi, so it’s all one happy family.

That said, it’s notable. KBin is a relative newcomer to the “Reddit-like fedi instance” game, and also does not have the tankie baggage.

Anyway, the more, the merrier!

KBin: https://the-federation.info/platform/184

Lemmy: https://the-federation.info/platform/73

Discussion on fedi: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/110527049024028986

  • Veraticus@lib.lgbtEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Hmm, interesting. I just spent some time getting a Lemmy instance set up – maybe I should’ve gone for kbin instead?

    • jay@beehaw.orgEnglish
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      2 years ago

      i think you can engage and interact across both so it may not matter as much.

    • rysiek@szmer.infoOPEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I don’t think you need to worry about it. It’s up to a given community whether or not that baggage affects it or not, I think. Building communities that are very explicitly not tankie is a great way of helping overcome that baggage for the whole project.

  • nii236@lemmy.jtmn.devEnglish
    1·
    2 years ago

    Sorry guys, kbin is built on PHP.

    So even if it did succeed, it won’t be for long.

    • Hexorg@beehaw.orgEnglish
      2·
      2 years ago

      Let’s not hate on tools. Php has its uses and has been proven to be useful in commercial applications. So has Rust. They are different but the choice of programming language means nothing for the core project.

    • ipkpjersi@lemmy.oneEnglish
      0·
      2 years ago

      I know this is a joke, but not only is KBin built on PHP, but so are Facebook, Pornhub, and Wikipedia.

      • bouncing@partizle.comEnglish
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        2 years ago

        I’m sure there’s some php still around at Facebook, but I doubt any new php projects have been started in 10+ years at any of those organizations.

        • ipkpjersi@lemmy.oneEnglish
          0·
          2 years ago

          You’d be surprised. Modern PHP with Laravel can actually be quite nice to work with.

          • bouncing@partizle.comEnglish
            1·
            2 years ago

            I’m sure it is, and I hear good things about Laravel, but you’re still working under some really bad decisions made in the past. That’s always the problem with great frameworks on bad languages: the frameworks are great, but you can’t escape the past.

            I’d point you to r/lolphp, but well, you know. Instead, I'll just leave this here.

  • wit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    That mstdn.social and the whole “lemmy = tankie” (whatever the fuck that means) is doing a disservice to the whole unreddit movement. I have seen plenty of discussion on reddit now of people not leaving because of these posts…

    • rysiek@szmer.infoOPEnglish
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      2 years ago

      I did not say “lemmy = tankie”, I said Lemmy has certain tankie baggage, and that is in fact true. The developers are pretty clearly tankies, they also run a strictly tankie instance (Lemmygrad; many Lemmy instances do not federate with it).

      Pretending this is not the case is not going to help in the long run. It might slow down the “unreddit” movement now, but I’d wager a bet it will make it more long-term viable and resilient, if people understand that choice of instance is important (there are quite a few great Lemmy instances that I would recommend wholeheartidly, like BeeHaw), and that there are alternative, independent implementations on Threadiverse (like Kbin).

      • wit@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Can you provide a source to your claim that lemmygrad is ran by Nutomic or Dessalines?

  • Defaced@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 years ago

    Can someone explain the “tankie” baggage? I’ve seen it thrown around quite a bit but no one seems to explain it in detail.

    • Brunacho@feddit.clEnglish
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      2 years ago

      (Some) Lemmy devs seem to have political ideologies that are within the “tankie” settings. That’s mostly it. Some people express they feel uncomfortable about it. Such devs hold an instance separate from the flagship instance (lemmygrad.ml), which in my opinion is not bad at all, I think it’s better they keep them to themselves giving an option to other instances to block it. They’re not trying to shove tankies ideas down anyones throats through the softwate or anything. Though this has leaked to the flagship instance sometimes as shown by this post