More power, more reputation. People automatically flock to trillion dollar companies.
If you want to stop people you have to stop it for all companies. You have to make brands less important.
You can’t because you can’t fix stupid! The people that do are beyond ignorant and don’t want to be informed of the truth!
Ruthless mockery.
Probably won’t work, but at least you’ll get a laugh out of it.
Could work tbh. If you show ppl the mirror of reality of them living in dirt conditions while their favourite billionaire buys their dog a 3rd 100 sqm house, they may wake up.
Havent seen alot about musks, gates, etc spending sprees. Bezos had that wedding. Zuckerberg is buying up Hawaii. This needs to be way more prominent.
I like that answer.
It’s easy! Simply eliminate all people.
And how do we that?
It’s simple, we kill The Batman.
“Defending” when accused of what? The question is somewhat meaningless without knowing that.
I just hate the idea of someone defending a billionare or trillion dollar company for any reason. There is no legitamite reason for them to even exist, since there’s no way to obtain THAT MUCH ammount of money without unethical deeds. And anytime you criticize them on ANYTHING, people will still do mental gymnastics to defend these evildoers to act like unpaid PR.
Example: “So what if shipping isn’t ACTUALLY free? They HAVE to bake shipping costs into the actual product in order to make a profit!”
Like, congradulations! You are correct! What did that acomplish for you? Other than the fact that you succesfully defended false advertising and ripping people off and terrible customer service in general. Why even care that they make more profit to begin with?!
Don’t bother answering a purposely daft question.
You mean OP’s?.
Because it is. Right out of the gate he doesn’t define what he means.
Are we saying defend in the legal sense when accused of a crime? Because damn right I want that person properly defended against government accusations. Otherwise we’re just behaving like a mob, and that goes nowhere anyone wants to be.
I just hate the idea of someone defending a billionare or trillion dollar company for any reason.
Then you have a very simplistic worldview. There are many disputes where different large companies are adversarial to each other, so if you have an opinion about them at all, you need to defend one of them.
For example occasionally media companies will try to get laws passed in various countries to make social media platforms pay for linking to journalistic articles. A stupid and nonsensical idea for many reasons, but by calling it that, I may have just “defended” Meta?
Platforms like twitter and facebook (and many “news” companies) brainwash their users, mostly by providing multiple different lies. Users pick whichever lie appeals to them the most, and they pretend they have found the truth.
To combat this, we need to emphasize the importance of thinking critically and verifying claims.
State the facts. Correct their misconceptions. Emphasize that billionaires are intentionally killing us all; lazy thinkers might reconsider if there is a possibility their life is at stake. I’m not saying threaten them, but we are all threatened by human greed.
The people you’re talking to might not listen, but someone else might. Sometimes it just takes repetition to get through to someone, hearing the same clear message from multiple different sources.
I have not seen this behavior outside of maga politicians and corporate c suite types.
There’s a halo of genius around rich people because they’re rich. Like the guy that invented the pet rock.
that like sounds like trump talk. I don’t pay taxes cuz im smartz. Many have talent to some degree or another but no man is worth 1000x the least of men.
I’m just saying your social experience doesn’t map onto the rest of society. If rich people are dumb, that means poor people can be smart, and that would mean that we do not live in a fair world. So for this to be a just world, rich people have to be smart and if they’re really rich they have to be super geniuses. Keep an eye out for articles about rich people giving their opinion about shit they know nothing about; the undergirding assumption is that we should listen to what they have to say because they must be smart if they’re rich.
This is how we got Elon Musk, who, as far as I can tell, is good at some aspects of business, but really masterful at pretending to be smart before extremely guillible audiences.
I know you don’t watch new media, but Angela Collier has more than one video complaining about rich people who claim they could have been physicists. “What’s stopping you? You have the money. You can take time off and even run your own research lab and hire the best professors in the world to teach you.”
I mean anyone who thinks we live in a just world is kinda dumb.
Well, you know what Adlai Stevenson said when someone told him he had the vote of every thinking American?
I did not. But I looked it up. Nice. Little embarrased I did not know.
Any shareholder group like memestocks, even crypto lately is all about defending Blackrock.
I would group them in the same group. shady. like probably popular in buy gold and increase your testosterone crowd.
You have to instill class consciousness in them, which is extremely difficult to do, especially in the usa bc our public education system in many places lies and says that this is a meritocracy when it’s not. So people believe that if they just work hard and do what they’re told then they’ll get rich. And when that obviously doesn’t happen, the republican party points towards whatever minority group they’ve selected for that election cycle and says “it’s their fault”
Like I said, actually getting people to understand that they have more in common with the poorest, queerest, immigrant than they do with a white cishet billionaire is really difficult, but the best way to do it is to redirect the conversation from minority groups to the actual problem. For example, if someone complains that immigrants are stealing their jobs then don’t start with a denial or disagreeing with them. Say, “you’re right. Companies hiring undocumented immigrants for less than or just minimum wage does depress wages for Americans. Companies that do this should be adequately punished and we should streamline our process for getting documents for undocumented immigrants. That way companies can’t take advantage of them or depress the wages of americans either.” Some people won’t listen bc they don’t want to learn, but if you keep trying eventually some people will listen and learn
Also try to get them to understand just how much money a trillion or even a billion dollars is
Mock them.
Advocate for stakeholder socialist policies like worker and consumer coöps that would render billionaires impossible.
This. Arguing with people online is – with all due respect – a complete waste of time if your goal is to change the world.
Ignore the people who have dumb opinions. It isn’t as though if you win 500 arguments Elon Musk donates all his money to Socialism.
Go join a tenant’s union or a mutual aid society. Go build the alternative world that doesn’t transfer all our money upward.
(Also, though, if you do this long enough there will likely be a revolution. But that part comes after you feed and shelter enough people that it begins to become a threat to capital. It’s downstream. Either way, don’t bother trying to persuade strangers on the internet,)
That’s the fun part. You don’t. It’s human nature, at least for neurotypical hominids to submit to confident icons, even when that confidence is unearned and grounded in hubris, not competence. Wealth makes people very confident, even about things they don’t actually understand. You’re not going to educate them into abandoning millions of years of human instinct. What you can do is make people angry enough at the current crop of billionaires they’re ready to put them up against the wall tell them you have a way to keep terrible people from getting that obscenely wealthy again, and then do it… with the knock on effect of making that level of obscene wealth disparity systemically impossible for anyone. That’s going to make people angry too though, you’re probably going to end up crucified for it, because you know, it’s a country of temporarily embarrassed billionaires.
Puch them square in the jaw
You’re three bad months away from being homeless.
You will never be three good months away from being a billionaire.
I think I could become a billionaire if I started off as a trillionaire
Naaah. If you were a trillionaire, you’d have activated the cheat code to be wealthy for at least 4 generations, and who cares about your great-grandkids really?
You under estimate my ability to buy stupid things
Billionaires do that all the time. Still living the way life.
a billion dollars (ignoring the anti-crashing-the-market laws) is an amount someone could spend “reasonably” (look at widebody aircraft, asml euv lithography machines, and aircraft carriers) , a trillion dollars would require quite a bit of innovation to spend.
I sound like a broken record but, BAN ADVERTISING. Along with all the pretty well established secondary bad effects of advertising, the most basic direct effect of it is lying to people. If people weren’t deluged daily with lies about how they should think of this or that company, they wouldn’t be so readily deluded into thinking of a company like a person with a positive effect on their world.
It’s so bad that when JC Penny tried to stop deceptive pricing they almost went out of business.
When I worked in retail, the store had different price label flags for different sales, discounts, etc. One of those was “Every Day Low Price.” If something had they price it would never go on sale because they were loss leaders, even big ticket items. The prices on those were below the sale price of competitors.
Far too many times I had a person ask if something already in their cart was on sale, I’d give them the above spiel and even comparison shop for them, and every single time they’d put it back.
It was truly frustrating.
But this is kind of circular logic. We need to convince people to stop defending trillionaires in order to be able to ban advertising or make any meaningful change at all.
only if it’s actually banned and not allowing loopholes for “the government” and “public good”
This. ☝🏻 We gotta ban advertising.
This. ☝🏻 We gotta ban advertising.
Stop letting them participate in society. Shun the fuck out of them.
