• Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Tbf, it’s been in decay since Reagan. Long time coming to get here. Trump was inevitable when we didn’t address inequality, lowered taxes on the wealthy, and allowed Citizen’s United.

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    Pfft. 250 years to build it. Trump would have built it in 3 tops. Nobody builds a county like him. He’s the best country builder person. Everyone says it. You guys are just jealous or something.

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      This could be the first time he’s ever been successful (unless you count bankrupting casinos, and other ‘businesses’ a success…?)

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    To quote the Beastie Boys.

    It takes a second to wreck it

    It takes time to build

    And with this fat fascist, there is no chill and we’re all fucked.

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    There is far too many “won’t” “can’t” “it’s over” “he’ll never leave” and not enough “Let’s make him leave” going on if you ask me.

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    As an African American, those 250 years of building was never for us, so while I’m happy that our unjust systems are crumbling under their own weight of stupidity. I wish it was being properly dismantled brick by brick from the left opposed to knocked over by what appears to be two elderly men with clearly anti social sociopathic and toxic masculinity, driving a triangle shaped truck that struggled to drive up a curb. The wall has just fallen on top of the poor, POC, and LGBTQ+ community. And the capitalist are going to just see the heep of bodies and bricks as a new road to drive over.

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    He’s not “trying to undo” it. He’s largely already undone it.

    He has done permanent and irreversable damage to our relationships with our allies around the world. Countries like Denmark and Canada now have to look at us as potential adversaries as we repeatedly threaten to use military force to annex their territories.

    He has obliterated our ability to maintain strong political and economic ties. Sure, with every administration comes tweaks to various foreign and economic policies, but American policies in general have been considered stable and reliable over the long term. Countries now believe, and have every right to believe, anything the US says only has a shelf life of 4 years before the next administration comes in and flips the table on a whim, and that anything Trump says only has a shelf life of until he has a conversation with someone else and randomly changes his mind. Businesses and governments can’t be expected to function under those conditions, and it is going to take us decades at best to show the rest of the world that Trump and MAGA were just short blips on the radar and that the US can once again be trusted in the long term. That’s assuming we ever get that trust back.

    Even domestically, how many collective centuries of experience has been purged from federal government operations as a result of Trump’s mass firings? Even if these agencies were re-opened and fully re-staffed tomorrow, how long would it take them to wind things back up and get back up to full strength? If they’re re-instated after the Trump administration, how much damage would be caused in the interim, and how many years or even decades will it take to fix it? How much data that these agencies relied on has already been permanently lost?

    How many years of scientific research has already been destroyed as time-sensitive experiments and studies get cancelled due to de-funding? Again, even if these institutions would be able to restart work tomorrow, how many experiments have already been invalidated in the interim? How many years are we now going to be behind in scientific research?

    Same goes with vaccinations. Environmental damage. Race relations. The list goes on and on and on. What he has already destroyed in four months will likely take four decades to repair.

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      Along with all this, he has undermined trust in systems that were largely held together by trust. How many times were we taught about the “checks and balances” built into the system, only to see they’re ultimately a facade. The court rules against an action the president takes, but they can’t actually enforce it. The president overules congress’s power to write the budget, but they can’t actually stop him.

      All checks and balances required a faith in the system working along a myth that was created. Not that myth has been shown to be false and there’s no going back. It’ll take serious amendments to the constitution to repair, or a new one altogether. I don’t think either of those are happening in the current political climate though.

      So yes, he’s done a lot of harm externally, but also internally.

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      Even if these are restored, the spell has been thoroughly broken.

      Trump has shown that the supposedly sacred institutions intended to protect democracy absolutely disintegrate the first time a 3rd rate dictator shows up and knocks them down.

      Trump has shown that the office of the presidency itself can be obtained by the most dipshit motherfuckers imaginable.

      Trump has shown that our electorate is hilariously unqualified for the responsibility of choosing our elected officials.

      Rebuild everything, and what are we left with but a system that is utterly incapable of protecting itself against fascism? How in the absolute fuck can we ever be expected to respect the office of the presidency again after seeing that the absolute worst among us is capable of achieving it?

      At this point, I think people are just hoping that the next election will restore the illusion. But for a lot of people, the perception of what this country is will be forever compromised.

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      They shut of the systems that kept research cell lines alive and viable. Those cell lines are gone. There is no replacement. Knowing this, in retrospect we should have have cell lines located in many locations, not just one. I can’t stand it. This is ‘crimes against humanity’ level of action by this administration.

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      it is going to take us decades at best to show the rest of the world that Trump and MAGA were just short blips on the radar

      The fun part is we don’t have decades. We’re already at +1.7C. Insurance actuaries are predicting 4 2 billion deaths worldwide at +2C. We will literally never recover from Trump.

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      Honestly you couldn’t have been more on the nose. Trump has harmed the world in deep and foundational ways. Mostly involving trust and good will

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    Especially the last hundred years since ww1 and the last 150 since yellowstone became the first national park and started a system greatly expanded and championed by a republican president. Of course the post office is from the dawn of the country and a mark of any real society. Certainly more so than some stupid parading of military crap.

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    From barbarism to civilization requires a century; from civilization to barbarism needs but a day.

    Will Durant 1885-1981. American writer, historian, and philosopher.

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    Lmao. Why do people still think the US in its pre Trump form was this great achievement? There was never anything unique or exceptional about the US. Trump was inevitable specifically because of how flawed the US is and was. The american people has never been interested in participating in democracy, it was always run by frauds and it was just a matter of time until someone figured out how to abuse that situation for something other than the typical shit that corporations have been abusing it for.

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      Wrong. There was one thing truly exceptional about the USA: the best propaganda the world had ever seen. Certainly the most effective.

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        It was always crazy to me when i met refugees who made it to Europe, that dreamed of eventually going to the US. This stupid myth that you can get stable work or even rich if you just work hard in the US has been believed for way too long.

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    That’s good. Our government has become so corrupt and incompetent it needs destroyed and rebuilt.